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badbadboy
14-May-12, 06:18

when will those navigation keys finally work ?
Hi all!

It must have been 10 years ago since I pointed out the issue for the second time.

But nothing happened so far.

Now I will describe the issue for the third time:

Suppose you see any of your chess boards.
1.) now click "my games"
2.) now use the key-combination "<Alt><Left Arrow>" simulatnously.

----> you will be brought back to the board that you just viewed.

Let me explain:
the key-combination "<Alt><Left Arrow>" (simultaneously pressed) works in
ANY Browser ever since the internet exists, it is the shortcut for "BACK" !!!
Also, it works on ANY internet page of the whole WWW, except,
well, let me tell you ....

Again, suppose you see any of your chess boards.
Try the key-combination "<Alt><Left Arrow>" now.
SURPRISE:
this wont bring you back to the page you last visited!

Yes, it is convenient that the <Left Arrow> and <Right Arrow> keys will get you
backward and forward WITHIN the current game!

But no, it is not at all convenient that the <Alt><Left Arrow> and <Alt><Right Arrow>
deny to work as expected on chessboard pages!

Please thell the chessboard programmer that he should well distinguish
between the
<Alt><Left Arrow> Key
and the
<Left Arrow> Key
in future versions of the gameknot software!

yours, Gerald



kingdawar
16-May-12, 06:35

Work-around
Click the address bar and then click Alt+left key to go back to the previous page.

But the analysis board is loaded in a pop-up, so there is nothing to navigate back to within that pop-up screen.
badbadboy
17-May-12, 06:23

work around ?
Well, it is always possible to find a work around.

it is also possible to click the back button with the mouse as a different workaround.

But, seriously, can it be a valid workaround
to use the mouse in case a user WANTS to navigate with the keyboard
and DOESNT want to navigate with the mouse ?

And, moreover:

why find a workaround just because the gameknot programmer broke
the standard browser functionality by forgetting to check:
... if (alt_key_pressed()) then doThis() else doThat()

I was a programmer myself but i always corrected the bugs within 10 years!

yours, Gerald

badbadboy
21-May-12, 05:19

bug confirmation ?
Hi gameknot development team!

Usually the development team confirms a bug and proposes a
time plan for fixing the bug.

This is state of the art with all development teams around the world.

When will you confirm that this is a bug ?

When will you fix it ?

Gerald
Software Developer

baronderkilt
22-May-12, 19:17

Hi bbb
I can sympathize with you in a way, about liking it so you do not have to go back and forth from Keyboard to Mouse, although I am the opposite way since I do not like to have to go to Keyboard. But I feel it can be a bit of a slow down to have to go back and forth.

Now I cannot claim to have done any kind of programming since decades ago, with BASIC. But in this instance, would it not be possible and simple to assign a Hotkey or PFunction key to Backpage for you? And Forward Page as well. Tho I can see where Forward Paging might not be much help if it can only forward to pages you have already been on. Is that a problem?

In my case, my mouse has a backpage & forward page button on each side. (I kept the backpager, but disabled the other with a Hardware-Helper, aka Screwdriver, so I don't keep hitting it by mistake.) Since you like using Keyboard better, i can see where that would not help you to have.

Good luck in working things out. Regards, Baron
badbadboy
23-May-12, 01:39

keyrecorders dont work as expected.
hi baronderkilt!

you are right - if one is used to navigate by keys then it is much faster than moving the mouse.

your are also right - the back and forward buttons on some mouse models are placed
so stupidly that these always disturb normal mouse movements - i will never buy a
mouse like this and i always work on touch-pads.

But the issue here is quite different:

it is a programming bug.

it is an error in gameknot's programs that has not been fixed since many years.

I lay it on the line one more time for all to remember:
=================================

1.) EVERY Browser (Saphari, Opera, Chrome, FireFox, Internet Explorer and all the others)
supports the <ALT><LEFT> Key Combination to go back, ever since the Internet exists.

2.) NO INTERNET PAGE (except gameknot) - may it be programmed in JavaScript or
ActiceX/asp or in Flash or in any other Programming langage - does break or override this
browsers built in functionality called <ALT><LEFT> Key Combination !!!

3.) Fixing the bug would be so easy.
the programmer would have to add ONE if clause to distinguish between <LEFT> Key and
<ALT><LEFT> Key.

4.) gameknot programmers do not even commit that it is a bug. since many many years.


These are the facts, unfortunately.

Gerald