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baronderkilt 02-Dec-09, 19:04 |
 A Postponement Question ... that the opponent playing my conditional moves during the PP will not count against cancelling my PP. But this i do not know.... *** Suppose I go on PP. Then receive an opp move during my PP. I make a reply and add a Conditional Move sequence 4 moves long, and then my opponent plays thru those Conditionals completely, during my PP. I know I have One move towards Cancelling my PP for the real move I made. The Question (since I set the Conditionals After going on PP), do the 4 conditionals he accepted and answered count toward Cancelling my PP? (And thus it could be Cancelled by anyone, after his moves are made, due to having 'made 5 moves') Or do they not count at all, even tho they were created after I postponed? Thus only 1 move was made!? Thank You ... *** }8-) |
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baronderkilt 07-Dec-09, 11:57 |
If no one knows for sure ... * * * From reading of the FAQ's & PP info I could find it only speaks of Conditionals in general and not differentiate between those set-up before PP vs those set-up during PP. So at face value, it looks like they should not count anyway, read in a broad and literal way. But I am uncertain without knowing that this specific circumstance was considered when that was written!? (For surely it is most common to set-up Conditionals while not in a PP.) * * * [ "3# In order to prevent any abuse of this feature, your opponents will be given an option to cancel the postponement for each game and restore the original time control if you continue to make your moves in any of the games during the postponement period (excluding the conditional moves)."] |
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baronderkilt 10-Dec-09, 17:01 |
You are right HK ... **** Message from GameKnot customer support: Hello, baronderkilt, Conditional moves do not count against your game postponement, regardless of when they were created or activated. Thank you for choosing GameKnot as your premier chess battlefield! Best regards, GameKnot.com |
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juco 15-Dec-09, 06:03 |
A Basic Postpone question |
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... Note that there is a tricky situation: Say the only opponent you play against flags 30 days of vacation. You go on vacation too for 20 days and do not set your flag since it does not seem necessary - you will return before the 30 days are over. If your opponent then returns early from the vacation, turns his/her vacation flag off and also cancels the postponement for these games, the time available is suddenly reduced and you run the risk of timing out. The moral: Do not count on others vacation time when you yourself are away |
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baronderkilt 15-Dec-09, 22:03 |
Algol ... or anyone who knows for sure : *** I wonder this. I believe it used to be; if your PP got cancelled then the TC REINSTATED meant you would be given the full TC, in use, to make your next move vs that opp. Just as if he had just moved in the game and you just received it. And so would have 3 days to reply, if the original TC was 3 days per move, for instance. *** Now however I am concerned whether that has changed? So that now it might mean: Suppose I had a 3 day TC with 1 day + 2 hours left to move in a game. Then I instead PP for 10 days without making reply. And suppose I made no moves in That game during my PP, but did move in 5 others. So Then this opp cancels my PP for our game. ............... Could it be that now it would mean I only had that 1 Day + 2 hrs to move in the game? (You can see this would be hazardous if I had not over a Day, but say 1 hour left to move when I PP'd. Then might get cancelled at midnight and sleep right thru that Hour to Move ..................... AND what if that game WAS one I moved in during PP, but got that game's PP cancelled a few days later. Would I THEN have only the Hour to move, as was true just before I PP'd? Or does it go ahead & award me a full 3 Days since I did move in THAT game, even tho during PP ?! *** IS Allegro TC any different in such cases than the traditional "X Days Per Move" type TC's ? *** }8-D |
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baronderkilt For incremental control, you may be forced to move before your opponent has returned - even without cancellations. You get up to the maximum accumulated time when the opponent's vacation starts, but the clock runs. I would think that if the opponent cancels postponement this buffer would stay available, so you get no surprises. For the traditional time control, my guess is that you get at least a day upon postponement cancellation. You may get the full period, but I do not know... I tend not to cancel postponements, so I do not have much experience with it... |
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algol 16-Dec-09, 13:43 |
Deleted by algol on 16-Dec-09, 13:44.
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Heinzkat But that does not make the distinction about your opponent being on-line or not, so it is quite possible that your statement holds - not so easy to check... I tend to set my vacation flag a little longer than I plan to be away, just to be on the safe side. When I return and turn my vacation flag off, I do not cancel the postponements anymore after reading this. It is a bit an odd situation, I estimate that about 50% of my opponents then cancel the postponement themselves... |
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juco 16-Dec-09, 15:08 |
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