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devuska
15-Feb-10, 13:57

Avoid time-out of opponent
Is there any chance how to avoid opponent time-out ??
one thing is, that i don't like winning this way - but more important: the game could be interesting and i don't want to end it just becouse opponent doesn't have time move..
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sometimes the time for move is set really inappropriate and can happen, that there is danger of second time-out (after reinstatement).. is there any chance to continue the game (if it is found to be interesting for players)? is there possibility to change game settings when reinstateing game? (is it not quite logic, that after i time out i and want to continue the game i would probably recognize, that time-for-move setting was not suitable and i would like to adjust it?)
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thanks a lot for any answer  
kingdawar
15-Feb-10, 15:25

If there is a second timeout, why not play at longer time controls?
devuska
15-Feb-10, 22:41

of course i'd like to - but is there any way how to change time condition during the game or at least while reinstateing it??
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imagine the situation:
i'd like to play chess.. it is just ordinary day.. winter evenings are long.. i know i have time enough and i feel like playing quite dynamic game - not like waiting two weeks for the move.. so i start game with ordinary 3-days interval for move..
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ok- it can happen the game is not so dynamic as i expected it to be.. maybe it prolonges itself and after month of playing i may get to time-stress and i'm maybe not able to move so often as i wanted when i was starting the game... and i also cannot set vacation flag at every second move to postpone it.. OK! in this case it's my fault!!!   a should maybe foresee my time conditions better next time   and maybe the opponent is also happy that he won the game even much more easier than he expected  )
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BUT!
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imagine, that i've started such game and after few days playing i recognize, that i like the game.. with that opponent.. maybe we are not just roaming around the chessboard - maybe we are also chatting and discussing.. and maybe under these conditions the tempo of the game slow down markedly.. so we are permanent moving in last hours  )) it can easly happen we could miss it twice!
or maybe we enjoy the game and there is simply some reason why opponent can not move.. maybe he has some time troubles.. you can enjoy game you are winning as well as those one you are losing (maybe those you are losing you can find even more exciting  )
is it not pity to "lose" (yeah - in fact you win it and get points - but can you call it "wictory"?) such a game just becouse opponet get rid of time??
is there no chance to avoid it if i'm sitting at comp, looking at screen and seeing, that my opponent has just one or two houst left?????

thanks for now  
garos
16-Feb-10, 00:42

devuska
Maybe YOU could postpone your games?
black_cat_hamlet
16-Feb-10, 01:19

If you and your opponent really like the game...
you could just challenge your opponenet to a new game (with a better time control, and maybe
unrated as well?) and play the exact same moves up to the point where you timed out...
algol
16-Feb-10, 06:05

devuska
May be the Fisher/incremental time control can be of help? When you challenge an opponent, GK allows you to pick an incremental time control. You could set the time per move as low as one day, leading to a much faster game. Yet, you can accumulate time if you play faster and build up a buffer for when the game does not flow as fast. You can set this to 30 days if you wish.

It is unfortunate that you can not select this time control when just starting a game, you need to challenge a specific opponent to get the option.
devuska
16-Feb-10, 14:12

Thanks!
lol

thanks for all answers... O 

i thought answers are gonna be like this  ))
frankly: was afraid of it..... hoped there is some hidden possibility i was not able to find.. *pardon*  )

to x-machine - excellent solution!   i used it once already  ))))
pity there is nothing more elegant and comfortable  

..just to sit and wait for news from gameknot..   maybe creators will come with some nice surprise.. O 
easy19
16-Feb-10, 14:42

devuska
There is a emergency postponement system that adds 5 days to the clock wen activated.
Wen that EP is already used you can postpone your games for 1 or 2 days just to give it more time..

I myself just send a msg hours before the time out and check the box send a copy by email - usually that works quit well

And if all that is not helping the game can also be reinstated.. by the one who timed out the game.
baronderkilt
16-Feb-10, 17:59

devuska ...
I think garos had a really good idea. If it is still the same as it used to be, just taking your own vacation days should add that time to your opponents clock as well, if it is his move. As in case he could not get to a computer to make his own Vacation Time.
Also, if you are usually fast players you could take a long vacation and just play the game during that vacation time. You could take turns as to which one of you is having the vacation.
Of course if you do this, other players will be able to cancel your vacation for their games with you.
algol
16-Feb-10, 18:04

baronderkilt
That is funny! May be we should all play with vacation time turned on so we have no timeouts anymore. All we need to do now is to lobby for more vacation time from GK so we can cover the year  
baronderkilt
16-Feb-10, 22:27

Algol ...
That is a very interesting idea~! ... but I fear Some players Might abuse the feature!? /
What do you think ? }8-D)))
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PS// I just noticed devuska was Asking if a TC adjustment made. I think That would be a very good improvement, if both players agreed to it, for those who would use it. But I wonder if it would be used enough to justify ... or so uncommon it might be better to leave as is; and just have players re-enter their game under a new TC, as now?! devuska - It would be interesting to know if the "Thematic" position entering could be used to reduce some of the re-inputting, if it were entered as being a 2-player Mini-Tournament, "by invitation only" ? But I do not know.
devuska
17-Feb-10, 15:48

emergency postponement:
very nice facility  
pity it is usable just once a year (i don't have premium membership).. and that there is no way to set priority - eg this one game is important for me that one not so much...

send an email to opponent:
there are days, when i check my chessboards more than mailbox... *blush*
and days when i don't have any time or possibility (gone to mountains etc) to check anything at all... so i can imagine this plan can easily fail, if judgeing according to myself  ))
but objectively - this idea seems not to be bad!  

postponement:
i was talking about the case, when the time control is set really inappropriate! it is impossible to set postponement for every second move..
cool idea to set it for whole the game  )))
i know it seems i disagree with anything.. O  ...have to say the question was just hypothetic, but inspirated with real "problem" (the word not meant so serios  ) ..there was danger of time-out and i couldn't set postponement, cause i've had set it few days before... *pardon* and it was game that was already once reinstated... so yeah - the alternative solutions are here, but it can happen, that all are unuseable at moment...  

thematic game is interesting possibility.. frankly i haven't known about it befor..   i consider it pity, that this is not possible to set if starting any game...  
and minimum players of minitournament is 5 *pardon*

i like gameknot and its features - thats why i'm playing here   but have to say that i'm missing some abilities that can be ancountered on other servers - namely possibility to ask opponent (send him requirement - of course no such interference in running game can be made arbitrarily) to make move/moves back, or ask him to change some game settings while playing (eg time control setting  ) and so on ..