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GameKnot related: tournament rule

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perro_feo
27-Jan-09, 19:56

Deleted by perro_feo on 27-Jan-09, 19:57.

perro_feo
27-Jan-09, 19:59

tournament rule

The rule is wrong, I like more if you chose people and they adjudicate the games but a draw by rule ruin all you can't do in a tournament and can be used to manipulate a result. Why you need to be faster in a tournament? if you want to move your hand fast go to play blitz.
I don't like the rule and I wondering what are the opinions of the others players.
JL

Rule:
The first 2 rounds will be considered finished when 99% of all games in the corresponding tournament section have been completed. The remaining 1% of games that are still in progress at the time will be recorded as draws in the tournament table, but they will still continue as regular rated games and can be finished normally (their actual results will not retroactively affect the tournament table). Starting with the 3rd round on, all games have to be completed in all groups in the same tournament section before the next round can be started.

kingdawar
28-Jan-09, 09:40

I don't like that 99% rule one bit.

markb56
28-Jan-09, 11:57

Maybe the 99% rule should apply only after 4 months. If every game in the round was progressing, then say after 3 months the one or two games remaining shouldn't be punished. But after 4 months, enough is enough! People who for whatever reasons can't finish a 2-day-per-move tournament game in 4 months are being unfair to the rest of us. The 99% rule is the lesser of two evils.

ericaalders
29-Jan-09, 08:43

Deleted by ericaalders on 31-Jan-09, 04:01.

kingdawar
29-Jan-09, 08:48

Eric

It must be said that you could have pushed your luck by not losing twice by timeout against the last player of the group. That most of all cost you the tournament progress; not the 99% rule.

kingdawar
29-Jan-09, 08:59

GameKnot might want to review the outcome of the groups that were ended by the 99% rule (i.e. if the first place holder scored enough points on his own to progress)

I am wildly guessing that in 50% of the cases the winner is not the one who scored the most points in the six games.

ericaalders
29-Jan-09, 11:19

Deleted by ericaalders on 31-Jan-09, 04:01.

ericaalders
29-Jan-09, 11:34

Deleted by ericaalders on 31-Jan-09, 04:01.

kingdawar
29-Jan-09, 11:53

They are surely purposefully trying to ty the games,

ericaalders
29-Jan-09, 12:57

Deleted by ericaalders on 31-Jan-09, 04:01.

lighttotheright
29-Jan-09, 22:16

Perhaps a panel of 3 impartial judges should adjudicate the games in such a situation. A win in such a circumstance should only be awarded when it is a clearly winning position.

In the case of ericaalders games, both lasted almost 4 months. It would seem that both sides must have done some delay work at some point in the game. It would help if moves had some sort of time stamp recorded for the situation to be judged fairly. If delay occurs on both sides, is it fair to disqualify a player because of trying to tie with the 99% rule? I'm not sure.

In such a case, I certainly have doubts whether the person trying to force the tie to manipulate the results deserves to continue.

Ericaalders, I feel for your situation but have to agree with heinzkat. Your timeout situation was the primary cause for the result. Even though those games in question did not actually timeout, they must have been delayed on your part too.

ericaalders
30-Jan-09, 09:55

Deleted by ericaalders on 31-Jan-09, 04:00.

ericaalders
30-Jan-09, 11:22

Deleted by ericaalders on 31-Jan-09, 04:00.

markb56
30-Jan-09, 13:32

Erica

When you say you lost your round by the 99% rule, what did you really lose? You didn't lose any rating points so that didn't hurt you. Just sign up for the next tournament and most likely next time you will get decent opponents who don't continually postpone. The 99% rule isn't 100% fair, but it is necessary so that tournaments don't take years to finish.

Here's another example of unfairness that one has to deal with: when I play in local OTB tournaments, there's one player who sometimes smells like he's crapped in his pants -- it's not fair when I have to sit next to him in the tournament hall, but I've learned to sit downwind from him or to breathe from the opposite direction.

ericaalders
30-Jan-09, 14:57

Deleted by ericaalders on 31-Jan-09, 00:19.

kingdawar
30-Jan-09, 15:14

MarekB makes a good point; if you get eliminated by the 99% rule, you probably weren't going to win the full tournament anyway - you can just see the six tournament games as six normal games. And a GK's tournament second round is not such a big thing if you miss it. That is also true. Just enter the next month's GK tournament and you get similar opponents. Hurray, no worries and be happy.

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