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bhidragon
05-Nov-10, 16:49

Premium Membership and Past Games
I'm considering breaking down and getting a premium membership. Will I then have access to all of my past games, including those played during the last several years when I was just a low-life free member?

Thanks,
Dragon
garos
05-Nov-10, 17:35

membership
bhidragon, I purchased a membership within the last month after being a free member for four
years. The short answer is 'Yes, your past games become available.' Having said that, only 8 of
my first 50 games showed up, the rest apparently having been deleted. After that, there is
perhaps 6-10 games per page which are not available, so roughly, I have access to 80% of my
past games.

I have found it instructive to go over some of the old ones. There are more than a few which I
blush over now, and the odd one where I played with a pizzaz which is now absent. Having
access to extra computer analysis is also a good thing for me.
kingdawar
06-Nov-10, 04:44

It depends on your rating and timed-out games
Generally, "most" of your games will be stored for GameKnot DB purposes if your rating is over 1600. But unrated games, short games and/or timed-out games will disappear after a while if both you and your opponent weren't premium members. There are no easy guidelines about exactly "if" and "when" they disappear, but this is a rough estimate I have made.

About your games, I count 21 games that aren't stored anymore. I assume most of them were timeouts, but there are a few that may have been real games (i.e. two of three unrated games have disappeared and one loss in 23 moves as well). The good news is that the other 115 are still there. For non-premium guys with a rating lower than say 1400, this "survival" percentage is considerably lower.
bhidragon
06-Nov-10, 06:39

Thanks Much
Thanks for the info ... and thanks for taking the time to look up my stats!
tactical_abyss
06-Nov-10, 06:45

Past games taken up a few notches...
Being a premium member is best for your games being saved of course.Plus,I believe the loading speed will be much quicker.But I take that a few steps further.I have my own custom database of every game I play and "catagorize"each game under opening titles like..."Sicilian Openings","Ruy Lopez" ect.Then under those sections I have listed separate subvariations.For example,under my Sicilian games I have open,non open,THEN...Najdorf,Dragon,Smith-Morra,ect.THEN under those I have ANOTHER subtitle of which games have been won,lost and drawn and FINALLY by whom...even ones that are on other chess sites,so that I can compare and cross-reference.This specific "tuning"helps me find the best lines of defense,offense against any upcoming opponent.But then it dosen't end there!I do my best to check any upcoming OPPONENTS past record..(like on GK)and see where his weakness's and strengths are in a specific type of opening,line,subvariation ect and either play that style opening or not,depending upon his win/loss ratio on that opening style.

If,for example an upcoming opponent(or one that I was searching for)had 9 wins and one draw by playing a Chigorin Variation(that I could find anyway)and his rating was within a certain parameter of rating points of mine(generally above 2200).....I would NOT play that Chigorin against him and steer my pieces in a far different direction!Sometimes in the direction where he LOST in a specific variation.Sometimes I know MORE about an opponents past games than he knows or even checks himself!
Quite an involved strategy and time consuming,especially going through a great # of past games from some opponents that I may not even challenge!But then I also keep a record of all my searches,so I do not do a double search in the future,except an updated one.
One may argue that,well,your opponent can do the same to you!But that would be rare,due to the time consumption,plus I have a special database for that,but then i'm not going to tell you everything!
Do I take my chess seriously?As serious as the US military defending Democracy!

TA
bhidragon
06-Nov-10, 10:24

Software?
TA,

The reason I want access to my GK games is to build a personal database. Interesting that you would mention that. I have most of the games copied on paper, and could enter the games move by move into ChessBase or something (I said "could" not "would") ... but importing the pgn files would be much more reasonable.

Do you have any advice on software you use for your database or is that a TA trade secret? ChessBase stuff is so user unfriendly.

Thanks, Dragon
tactical_abyss
06-Nov-10, 16:02

bhidragon,
I have my own custom software which was designed for me by my computer engineering friend so I can't help you there.I'm no expert on "retail"commercially available software,so I dare not suggest anything in that area.But perhaps if you check in the Chess Related forum under "Best Chessbase Product"...you will find easy 19 forum post on 2 links which is megabase 2003 and downloading PGN files.Perhaps that will assist you better?Seems that it helped freddy,so it might be what you are seeking.

TA
bhidragon
06-Nov-10, 18:33

Thanks
Thanks much.
chess_avenger
06-Nov-10, 21:41

ive was a free member for lots of years and 1-2 years ago i became paid member.
90 percent + of my thousands of games showed up.

btw I use a program called chesspad its very simple and keeps your games and moves.
(im not sure if this is what you are looking for).

other than that i only know chessbase stuff.
Gameknot.com
08-Nov-10, 17:42

Completed games are automatically deleted after 30 days except if: you have a premium membership, your opponent has a premium membership, the game was saved in the game database (i.e. both players are rated over 1600, the game didn't end in a time-out, or in less than 5 moves). So you best bet is to subscribe to a premium membership, in which case for as long as you renew the subscription, your games will always be stored on the server indefinitely.