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jibb666
08-Feb-09, 23:37

oops - I swore in Blitz

Okay - I did wrong. I was in the middle of a Blitz game and I type a message along the lines of "ack I made a sh*tty move".

It's fine that I shouldn't swear, but I've had my chat disabled for a week. What is the point of this? How about - just don't let the message be sent and that's the end of it? I've had a few more blitz games since, and the odd person will chat or say good game at the end - and I feel really rude for not replying.

kingdawar
09-Feb-09, 04:19

jibb

I believe you must send three such offensive messages before your chat privileges get disabled.

kingdawar
09-Feb-09, 04:49

"What is the point of this?"

To make clear offensive language is not tolerated...?!?!

jibb666
09-Feb-09, 06:04

Yeah - that's all well and good - and I have nothing against not being able to swear. Why not just not allow a message with swearing to be sent?

Now I can't send anyone a message saying "thanks for the game". This is dehumanising the whole point of Blitz.

kingdawar
09-Feb-09, 06:09

Well, next week you will think twice before sending swearing words in the Blitz chat... that's the idea.

jibb666
09-Feb-09, 06:32

Yeah - but it's my opponents who now suffer as I can't say thanks for the game. It's not just me being penalised by this ban. Don't get me wrong - I understand the no swearing thing.

chessnovice
09-Feb-09, 12:36

my answer

It requires less hands-on moderation to make it automatic. Usually when they make a word impossible to say, people who are bent on saying the censored word will look for ways to bypass it. That becomes more difficult to code for, since there are infinite ways to bypass, and certain symbols used for bypassing (like the asterisk) are more difficult to incorporate into censors. This way isn't too bad, because it gives a person no opportunity to analyze the censors and how to get around them.

The muting only lasts a week, and at least you're still able to play. You might not be able to say thanks during the game, but I don't think everyone looks at that as rude. I certainly don't, at least.

garos
09-Feb-09, 15:47

jibb666

If you feel bad about not saying thanks for the game, just don't play blitz this week

kingofpawns
12-Feb-09, 13:24

In addition, whatever you do, do not use a swear word when your chat has been disabled. It will
automatically add weeks, months, and even years to the time chat is disabled depending on how many
times you use the offending words. Also, do not try to get around the rules, if someone reports you, your
account can be disabled for life. Just follow the rules, and you will have no problems here, but if you don't,
there are serious penalties.

bakedalaskan
12-Feb-09, 16:24

Or...

A better way to handle it is like ever other site that I play on...
U can type bad words but they dont show up in chat.. It shows as odd characters like (&%$@#*)
Not being able to chat for letting a bad word out (in honest mistake) is rather ridiculous I think.
(in other words, sensor the word not the player) Were only human...

marinvukusic
12-Feb-09, 18:22

Why swear in the first place

There is zero need for swearing. You can say "stupid" move, it is allowed and should be sufficient.

Regarding that "gg" thing - I often don't reply to that because I don't see it in time (since it is a short message it is hard to see if you are not looking for it).

Anyway, people tend to overuse it since it is a habit in gaming... but I don't think that it should be said automatically:
- Often people blunder a Rook or something and then after struggling for 2-3 minutes say "gg" and resign. That kind of a game hardly deserves to be called "good".
- Sometimes the game is a real battle - in those games simple "gg" is completely insufficient. I usually say "Well played".

kingdawar
13-Feb-09, 01:35

or2ak

The possibly offensive word shows up as "****".

tactical_abyss
13-Feb-09, 07:33

See?As I mentioned in another thread.This swearing stuff goes on and not just with 12 year olds.If I am losing a blitz game,my brain does the opposite...I feel like cheering on the opponent and think positive thoughts about how to improve my play next time.
Also Marinvukusic is correct.GG is not always necessary,nor is writing anything.If you don't receive any GG or chat,no big deal,just play out the game and move on to the next one.
What becomes a problem in my book is when an opponent "has to" have you write or respond to his chat or write gg.Some players will immediately cancel a blitz game if you do not chat with them.Some will even follow you into your messenging center(as has happened to me)telling me that I am wrong for not writing "gg" at the end,and then placing me on their ignore list without giving me a chance to defend myself.Now,this is truly inappropriate behavior.
Writing anything,even gg is an optional courtesy,not a necessity,and should not be looked down upon if it dosen't show up in a game.Some players for example want to cram in as many games as they can in a short time and want to move on without wring anything.Other players simply forget to write gg...so what?The day I take even a "quark sized"offense to someone NOT writing "GG" or NOT responding to some chat that I want to initiate,is the day I give up chess forever!

tugger
17-Feb-09, 13:36

What if you're playing a 12-year-old, and tell him he made a sh.. move? A 3 day chat ban will most likely stop someone doing this again, and it should be logged to track repeat offenders.

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