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 Another canceling postponement question....GK says something to the fact that if your opponent makes 5 moves during the postponed game,then I have the option to cancel the opponents extra time and restore the original time control.So why is the option listed above the board that "allows"me to cancel the postponement,even though my opponent only made 1 move(outside of some conditional moves) during the postponed game? Should this option really NOT appear as a clickable option until the computer recognizes my opponent making his 5th move during the postponed game?One game in question I had a few conditional moves and the "cancel" the postponement option did not appear,but it just did recently "appear" with one recent move from my opponents postponed game.This I "assume"would then be his "first"move of the postponed game,beyond any conditional moves. So what if I "use" this "option"and simply cancel my opponents postponed game after 1 or 2 moves that he made during the postponed game?Is this trouble and against GK rules?If so,then I really should not have the option in the first place sitting in front of me.Maybe I forgot how many moves my opponent made during the postponement? Three,four,five?Or maybe I forgot how many conditional moves were made....but that option still exists in front of me. So,does everyone "wait" a MINIMUM of 5 moves to cancel...Yes,no? |
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Now,is this against any rules or unacceptable? |
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thoughteraser 24-Jun-11, 15:08 |
Deleted by thoughteraser on 14-Sep-11, 18:08.
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tactical_abyss 24-Jun-11, 15:17 |
Deleted by tactical_abyss on 24-Jun-11, 15:28.
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baronderkilt 24-Jun-11, 18:58 |
MYRYDIN is correct ... *** The conditional moves he has created before PP, which are triggered during his PP do not count as "Moves" towards the 5 move limit. Also if he uses one of those 5 moves in a game DURING the PP, which triggers his own Conditionals in that game they still do not count to his 5 move total, even tho those Conditionals were actually created during the PP, and no matter how many of them may play out by the opp from that string. So, a conditional Offered never adds to the 5 move limit. What I am unclear on is: what if the player makes one move during his PP, that triggers a Conditional FROM his OPP. Can he then answer it without being charged as a second move? My guess is no. That answering his opps conditional would add to his 5 move total. But this is a complete guess. It may be those don't count either?! And it would certainly be good to know for sure ! *** Personally, if I had a PP and made 5 moves, I would certainly not feel poorly toward anyone using the Cancel option. If I did not want to be in that situation, I would simply not Make 5 moves. It is my opinion that the purpose of allowing 4 moves during a pp was probably so that a player who started a New Game just before the PP would be able to play it beyond the 3 moves then needed to put the game beyond the Cancel Game option for his opponent. (Or at least show his opp good faith in wanting to play the game.) I am not sure, but believe the non cancel status for a new game is now only for 2 moves made, rather than 3. But again, about that I am not certain & perhaps someone else knows for sure, or there may be a faq to it ? |
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Since I never postpone games or as you can see from my profile,never have any time-outs,ect,then I really do not research all of these PP rules,guidlines ect..thats why I use the forums....its sometimes easier!I wasen't aware that it was 5 moves for all the games combined for my opponent,but that makes sense.Technically,I disagree alittle on that rule.I feel a postponement should be just that,and even 1 move,not 5 or 2 or what have you,should allow the other opponent to cancel the players postponement.So,even if my opponent is playing only 1 game and he postpones and then moves during that time,then I feel the time should be reset.If I set up this site,it would be "automatic"...that is,that the player even making one move AFTER they postpone would trigger an automatic cancellation of the players postponement.But then,this is my nasty month,so forgive me!Ha ha! TA |
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thoughteraser 25-Jun-11, 12:52 |
Deleted by thoughteraser on 14-Sep-11, 18:08.
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baronderkilt 29-Jun-11, 23:33 |
Sending my prior Question, right now, to GK Contact for answer ... < "What I am unclear on is: what if the player makes one move during his PP, that triggers a Conditional FROM his OPP. Can he then answer it without being charged as a second move? My guess is no. That answering his opps conditional would add to his 5 move total. But this is a complete guess. It may be those don't count either?! And it would certainly be good to know for sure !" > Can you please answer that Question for me GK_? [And thus, also for the info of players in the GK_FORUM Thread where it arose? Hyperlink to it is provided below, for your convenience. TY] [ URL for this thread = gameknot.com/room-fm.pl?home=1&th=955 ] gameknot.com Thank You much GK_com for your anticipated response in your usual prompt & informative manner~! Baron }8O . . . . . . . Oooooooooooooooooooowww T H A T H U R T T Z Z Z ~! My new Dragon_ware has stolen my Nose; I can still dictate text; but it's SO000 Nasal. |
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thereaper1 03-Jul-11, 20:14 |
One of my opponents has just postponed his games and it was my move whe he postponed. I assumed that I could make my move and the postponement would still stand. But after I made my move my opponents cloack started going down and now I feel guilty. Is this supposed to happen? I thought that after I made my move then the time would remain the same untill his vacation flag was removed from his account. Now instead his time is running down and it seems he will time out before he returns. |
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the precipitating event that cancels a postponement The precipitating event to your opponent's vacation-time terminating, and his clock counting down, may probably have been Not your move but a move he made on another board (while on vacation) just before you posted your move. |
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maca 04-Jul-11, 10:54 |
Regards, MaCa. |
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baronderkilt 04-Jul-11, 11:57 |
"you have been heard!" I heard from GK Very quickly, & under 3 days. The posting delay is mine. [I admit being a slow kind of guy these days. I just a need to lose my shoes and find a haystem and you'll get the picture] **** Any moves submitted by a player will count towards the postponement cancellation option, including the ones made in response to opponent's conditional moves. The conditional moves themselves do not count towards the postponement cancellation option. Thank you for choosing GameKnot as your premier chess battlefield! Best regards, GameKnot.com ************** So I came up with this Lazyman's way to remember it. "YOU move, always counts. Computer moves for you, Never counts" ... to the 5 move cancellation matter. Without qualification. |
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