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 Loving & Losing< "Life is loving -- and losing." > Big consolation. I have a question for veteran members. But first, some background. 6 months ago here at GameKnot one of the players started a new club. It was devoted to endgames. It became very successful, and quickly grew to about 40 members, and growing. Its threads were consistently among the most active club forums. To learn more about the strategic and tactical procedures of chess endgames -- which can be among the most Boring aspects of chess -- Club Members formed consultation games. It became an educational and an entertaining experience. Friendships grew, team-building grew, mentoring blossomed, because if you give knowledge you derive unanticipated pleasure. By six months the club had become a community its members loved. And then lost. Because 6 months to the day, its founder chose to delete all threads, remove all endgame studies, dispose of all contributions, erase all ideas, and end the Club. Members offered to shoulder the responsibility. Members offered to pay the fee. Members invited a transfer. Anything to keep their Club alive. GameKnot offered to transfer the Club to another member, giving that member "founder status." But the founder pulled the plug. The founder had that power and used it. My question is, is that the way it always is and must be? That when we build a community within the structure of a GameKnot Club -- one player, one member, the founder member can kill the entire community of ideas? And has this cycle of loving and losing been happening here before? |
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maca 19-Jul-11, 11:55 |
Whoever they were, they've been long gone. It's very rare that you see a 'deleted' thread at the GK Forums these days, and the ones that I've seen have often been deleted for a good reason. That said, the end of the Endgame club is certainly regrettable. It's hard to imagine what motives the Founder might have had, but I won't judge him blindly for what he did, either. Regards, MaCa. |
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In the garden of Good and Evil good is what creates, evil is what destroys. The act itself was an act of destruction. . |
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blueshrimper 19-Jul-11, 13:06 |
It was a shame In fairness, the founder did give us an opportunity to copy any posts we wanted. Unfortunately, I didn't do this which I now regret. If any former club members reading this did copy the posts relating to the consultation game, please send me a message or post here. Thanks Harry |
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That's a bit sad... Why not begin a new one? I'll join... Cheers, Ion |
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Thinking the unthinkable < "It's hard to imagine what motives the Founder might have had. . . . " > And before the Casey Anthony case (unless we go back to Medea) it was hard to imagine that a parent might kill his or her child. But parents do. Children of course have the right to live, and to be protected from a homicidal parent. But our Club founder had the old idea if you bring something into the world, it is your property and you have the right to snuff out its life, to kill it. But I say, no matter who fathers a Club, once it is a community of common ideas that we contribute, it, too, should have a right to live. When the Founder of the "Unusual Chess Openings Club" chose to table that Club (for instance) -- he did not kill it -- he let it be, and made it inactive, he did not destroy it, nor did he destroy the ideas with which its members had endowed it. GameKnot should give Club members the right to keep alive any shared community of ideas that we build here. . |
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easy19 has started a new club success.We can study endgames ,we can study openings and we can study the middle/game. We can evaluate Combinations and Tactics and discuss strategy.We can make it our 'war room' |
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brigade commander's unique insights You are uniquely brilliant in your insights into military strategy and weaponry as models for chess thinking. But as for me, after the pain, disappointment, and wanton destruction that has just been inflicted: without new protections in place for us, I would consider myself a fool to contribute to Any new Club at GameKnot. . |
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Come on Shamash! rememmber this quote.... easy19 would never hit the 'delete' button. |
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To Protect and Defend And in a moment of passion, a moment of no restraints, any of us might do almost anything. . . . even push a little button on a Clubsite that sends a virtual community into oblivion. Therefore to protect us -- even from ourselves -- we need some fail-safe to protect us forevermore, to block any willful, capricious, malicious, vengeful, destructive, and automatic deleting of a entire community of members who give, and nurture, and share, and do not deserve to be treated like trash to be thrown out, as happened Monday to the Endgames Club when its Founder pushed button after button removed member after member deleted thread after thread pages upon pages ideas in the hundreds so bent on eliminating it from his sight he destroyed it. . |
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i would support that.... the other 'endgames' members. |
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I have not put much time it yet. I payed the 19.95 dollars and made a few threads it was a act of how you call it ? I got the idea and took action and 1sec later a new club was born. gameknot.com |
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