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fr1ar
29-Nov-11, 12:01

Suggestions for a new opening
For the last year I've been mostly opening with the Spanish Opening, and am ready to start playing another opening. Over the weekend I played my brother in-law and lost both games. He is not a chess player, he knows how the pieces move but thats about it. In both games he had a rook and queen out as quickly as possible. I was wanting to play a 3rd game and play move defensive but he was tired of playing. Anyway is there a defensive opening that anyone would recommend trying? Thanks, Friar
shamash
29-Nov-11, 13:56

an opening for fr1ar
I recommend you get and read the book "How to Play Good Opening Moves" by Grandmaster Edmar Mednis,
and that you play particular attention where he says that as White,
you should play like White,
and make strong opening moves.
There is no such thing as a defensive opening when you open first.
You don't make little weak, piddly, uncertain, chicken- moves.

There are openings with White that allow you to deploy your pieces and pawns in a manner less committal
than some others, yet maintain the ability
to build your position, seize the initiative,
and make your initiative culminate in a winning attack

And when you have Black, and respond to 1 e4, see what you think of the Petroff Opening.
And when you have Black, and respond to 1 d4, if you want to respond defensively do not touch the King's Indian Defense.
baronderkilt
30-Nov-11, 12:54

friar ...
Can you show the game moves? Or if not, then describe how he won the games? About how many moves when he won? And assuming the Q & Rook played a part?
fr1ar
30-Nov-11, 15:26

Thanks
Thanks for the replys shamash and baronderkilt.
I don't remember the moves. The first game was probably around 35 moves and the second games was quicker, probably 20-25 moves. On both of them I did get smothered with my own pieces and he was attacking with a rook, queen and bishops.
I would like to play him again. He is very aggresive, it is all or nothing and I think if I had patience he would lose pieces.
Maybe more what I am looking for is how do you keep your tempo without making "little weak, piddly, uncertain, chicken- moves"?
ionadowman
30-Nov-11, 21:38

fr1ar...
I'm guessing your b-in-law knows a bit more than 'how the pieces move' if he could beat you in 25 or even 35 moves. He clearly knows what aggression is, and I form the impression that that aggression, even if not very accurate, has a considerable psychological effect upon you.

Without knowing how the games went, we have to conjecture. That his rooks played a significant part is interesting. Does he bring them out quickly by castling and making way for them by bringing his minor pieces out? Or does he advance his rook-pawn and bring them out that way?

A lot of beginners (or players who know only how the pieces move) try the latter method, but it should not work. If he opens 1.h4 then reply 1...d4, and if 2.a4 e4. White's rooks are stymied.

But if he is getting his rooks out by castling etc, then he is developing his game quickly, and getting early into a position to attack. You have to match that in some way.

Here's my suggestion for the Black pieces: play 1...e6 and 2...d5 against just about anything your opponent plays. If it goes 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 you have the standard starting position of the French Defence; and if 1.d4 e3 2.c4 d5 it's the Queen's Gambit Declined. Look up games played with these lines to get a feel for how the games go. I wouldn't try to analyse minutely every move - just get a look at the shape of the games.

For the White pieces, you might find 1.d4 more congenial, leading to a slower type of game. I'm sensing that you prefer a slower paced game to the wild and woolly stuff. An alternative is the Two Knights Opening (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Nf3 ...) if Black plays 3...Nf6 you can play 4.Bb5 (which looks like the Ruy Lopez, but tends to be slower), or 4.Bc4, The Really, Really Slow Game (Giuoco Pianissimo).

Cheers,
Ion A. Dowman



ionadowman
30-Nov-11, 23:24

I had a look...
... at one of fr1ar's recent games.
game

Here's the position at after 8 moves with White to play:
w

Black has given up a pawn, but has some compensation for it in an active game, with pressure against White's f2-square. White's best defence - in this particular position - is probably 9.Ne3 or maybe 9.Be3. But White played the usual recipe when f2 is attacked by B and N.

9.0-0?
Though usually correct, this is no defence, as Black can reinforce the attack:

9... Qh4!
When this move is good, it is usually very, very good. Threatens mate, to which there is but one defence.

10.h3 ...
And now Black has the luxury of choosing between which minor piece will take on f2. Best seems to be:

[A] 10...Nxf2 11.Rxf2 Bxf2ch 12.Kf1 ...
(else Black can rip in with the other bishop: 12.Kh1 Bxh3!, threatening ...Bg4ch and a quick kill.)

12...f4
Reinforcing the front line troops and opening new lines of attack. Black would be having all the fun in this game.

But [B] 10...Bxf2ch isn't bad either, if perhaps not quite as good as the bishop take. The rook pretty much has to take, again, as after 11.Kh1 Qg3! 12.hxg3 Qh4 is checkmate.

11.Rxf2 Nxf2
(11...Qxf2ch is OK as well)

12.Qe2
and now Black can simplify matters by playing 12...Nxd3 at once, or pile on the psychological pressure by 12...f5! 13.Qxf2 Qxf2ch 14.Kxf2 fxe4ch 15.Ke2 exd3ch 16.cxd3. Black emerges with the Exchange to the good, and White will have problems with his doubled isolated d-pawns.

I mention this particular position as it is the sort of attack that might have come to mind, as fr1ar had set it up very nicely, and White had walked right into it!! True, he didn't realise it, but this is the sort of thing you will have to recognise in order best to make full use of a better position. At some point, you will probably have to go over to tactics. The trick is [a] to have the necessary tactical skills at your command (try the puzzles and tactics on GK; you can pitch the latter at what you think your skill level is, and gradually improve) and [b] recognise when the time is right (rather an arcane skill, I admit, but it can be acquired only by experience - that is to say, trying it out).

By the way: After 1.e4 e5 2.d4, Black should play 2...exd4.
If White retakes with the Queen, then Black's QN develops with tempo: 3.Qxd4 Nc6 4.Qe3 and now Black can play 4...Nf6 as after 5.e5 Ng4 6.Qe2 d6 7.f3 Nh6 (taking the e-pawn is a bit risky after 8.f4) and now, if 8.Bxh6 then Black plays an intermezzo to preserve his K-side: 8...Qh4ch 9.g3 Qxh6 and Black has a fine game.

But White can play the thing as a Gambit:
1.e4 e5 2.d4 exd4! 3.c3
Of this, more another time.
fr1ar
02-Dec-11, 16:25

Ion, yes I was severely psyched out during the games, especially the second game, I would just sit there several minutes at my move, just to try an get my heart rate down.

He never castled but brought the queen side rook down the side and over the 5th rank.

I enjoyed playing the games as they were quite different from what I am use to playing.

Thanks for the game analysis, I printed it off and will go over it this weekend.

Thanks again, Friar