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baronderkilt
30-Nov-11, 14:05

Who said it ?! ...
I find a lot of wisdom, humour & sometime even irony in things said by Chess players. Often Grandmasters, but need not be. Just want to open the door for some more Wisest, funniest, or favoritest comments you've heard. Or even Deeds. I can never recall exact quotes, even if we are lucky enough to have it quoted correctly in the first place. So I usually have to paraphase, for which I beg your pardon. What are some of your favorites? By others, or yourself ?
baronderkilt
30-Nov-11, 14:39

I rather like the first series of comments ...
like the game of Chess itself, a sort of interplay across the years, built upon comments of past greats ...

1) Bogolubov saying 'When I am white I win because I am White. When I am black I win because I am Bogolubov'.

2) Alekhine: 'When I play Bogolubov, I win because he is Bogolubov'

3) Fischer: 'I could give knight odds to any woman in the world' (*Referencing the Morphy offer of N odds to anyone in the world, probably. We know Fischer studied the old Masters & Morphy in particular)

4) Tal: 'Fischer is Fischer*, but a Knight is a Knight !' (* Like Bogo is Bogo ...)
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1) I read Kmoch about pawn power & play, with his striking terminology such as Duo's, Rex Weavils, Benoni Jumps, etc.

2) Come to find out, a lot of his terminology was used before, perhaps created by, Tarrasch.

3) Wonder if Tarrasch got any from Philidor or anyone ...!? I don't know. Do you?

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'If you find a good move, look for a better one'.

This I've heard attributed to Keres. But also one or several others I cannot recall. Wonder how oft repeated, by whom & who the originator of the sentiment ?
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AND here's one to win free drinks with if anyone puts forth the cliche', "There is no universal truth" ...

From the unfamous (aor infamous!?) editor of "Metro Chess" magazine. Motto: "Chess of Omaha & the World", after they got a Canadian subscriber too ...

Sage advice concerning endgame strategy, 'Do you find endgames difficult? You are excited to reach the endgame 2 pawns up because "Now I can Draw!" ? This indisputable, step by step advice for endgame improvement, is offered:

1) "Play short games ! "
2) See #1
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BTW ... I too can offer Knight odds to any woman in the world. Or to anyone. AND can teach You how to do this also !   [ As well as calling Spirits from the vasty deep ... ]
ionadowman
30-Nov-11, 21:01

Craig -
You can offer knight odds to any woman in the world, but - here's a thing - will she accept?

I don't know who said this. Maybe James Mason:

'Take a box of chessmen, shake thoroughly, then tip them out over the board at a height of two feet. There you have the style of Steinitz.'

Mischa Tal, upon comparisons being drawn between himself and Emmanuel Lasker:
'Lasker made mistakes in every game. I make mistakes in only half my games!'

Mischa Tal, upon losing his game against Bobby Fischer in the Bled Tournament of 1961.
"Who can play against Einstein's Theory?" (Tal won the tournament, with Fischer second).

A certain master MacDonnell upon being congratulated by a fan for his superb play in his matches with Labourdonnais some decades before:
'Oh, you mean the other Master McDonnell! You know: he's been living off my reputation ever since he died.'

'The mistakes are all there, just waiting to be made.' S. Tartakover

'Why must I lose to this idiot?' A. Nimzovitch... and John Kerry.

The poor but literary loser, after a particularly ignominious defeat:
'I'm not valiant neither, but every puny whipster gets my sword' (Othello)
ionadowman
30-Nov-11, 21:06

Here's one I forgot...
... It's in response to that quote Craig mentions:

'When you find a good move, look around for a better one.' I've always attributed this to Dr S. Tarrasch. But how about this:

'When you find a good move, play it!' Bill Hartston.

I can see a lot of sense in both pieces of advice, contrary though they are.
ionadowman
30-Nov-11, 21:16

Talking about Tarrasch...
His annotations (paraphrased).

'Now So-and-so's game is finely balanced: weak on the K-side, and equally weak on the Queen's.'

'Having reached the limits of his knowledge of opening theory in this line, So-and-so now makes a fatal blunder: he uses his own head.'

J.H.Blackburne commenting upon his famous loss to Zukertort. Wandering about the hall, he heard the pound of a chessman being driven forcibly into the board, and he recognised whence it came.
'I thought as the playwright did when the critic condemned his play: "So he has found it out, has he?"'
baronderkilt
30-Nov-11, 23:03

Ion ...
Tal can give anyone knight odds in quip making! And still Win too, except maybe vs Tarrasch ...  
Tho I rather enjoy the deflational nature of Alekhine's quip quite a lot too. lol
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'God is not a Bulgarian' Nigel Short
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Perhaps Keres quotes Tarrash. Chronology seems important when hearing something has come from 2 or 3+ sources. Or I may just be wrong, because I am quoting someone else who said Kere's & I don't remember who Im quoting. Maybe He could not Either. Oh well, now people can blame me for saying it. lol ( But I am sure I am not quoting me, on that one. And he sounded confident saying it ... Maybe it was my Boss !?? ha)
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Certainly she Must accept if I am charming enough asking ?! [ ... with the added factor that she's going to win the game anyway]
baronderkilt
30-Nov-11, 23:04

Oh yeah ...
I love that Tarrash annotation. ha ... Finely balanced indeed
ionadowman
01-Dec-11, 13:36

Quick repartee...
Flangewordel-Crump: 'Care for a game?'
Throgmorten-Smythe: 'I never play against patzers.'
Flangewordel-Crump: 'Oh, I always do. Care for a game?'
maca
03-Dec-11, 08:52

'If you find a good move, look for a better one'
I believe that quote predates Keres... I recall that something similar at least was published in some very early chess manual, possibly published somewhere in the region around India or so.


Regards,
MaCa.
rockall
03-Dec-11, 22:15

'If you find a good move, look for a better one'.
According to Andrew Soltis in "The Wisest Things Ever Said About Chess" (2008) p. 136:
-- "This maxim has been attributed to everyone from Damaino to Emanuel Lasker. . . "
rockall
03-Dec-11, 22:28

"Loose pieces drop off."
John Nunn. Often shortened to LPDO. Source Soltis p. 271.

Closely related is the idea that "Any piece or pawn that is attacked as often as it is defended is a tactical
weakness." Soltis p. 272

Dan Hiesman refers to these and a few other key weaknesses as "Seeds of tactical destruction."
baronderkilt
03-Dec-11, 23:06

Where'd my post go ?!?
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rockall I read what Soltis said too, In a book by Philidor !

Just joking. But that from Solitis Is much what I suspected myself. Tho I could not mention any particular Others, as he did. I suppose he must have meant it literally too, for those actual players, or might have said From Philidor to Fischer if being satirical. Thx for posting it, that is very interesting to read.

Maca , thx also. I also had to believe it probably does predate Keres, but could not say who. Whether its Tarrasch or as Soltis says.
baronderkilt
03-Dec-11, 23:34

MACA ... PS//
Was the very strong player Charousek from India by any chance ? He played in the Steinitz to early 1900's era i believe? When the Scotch/Danish/Goring Gambit was at peak. I remember him playing one in the line :

1.e4 e5 2.d4 ed 3.Nf3 Bb4+ 4.c3 dxc3 5.O-O c2 (This c2 became the standard in GM play then for a time.)
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FYI ANY GAMBITEERS: This 5.O-O is theory from the 2nd wave of GM praxis of the Goring (Semi-Danish) Gambit opening complex (or 3rd wave of the Danish if we consider full acceptance by 3...Nc6 4.c3 dc & 5.Bc4 cxb2 as the 1st).

Before this 5.O-O move became the rage, it was preceded in time by 5.bxc3 in nearly every earlier game. Later than 5.O-O, the move 5.Nxc3 was given a plus. MCO-12 I beleive. Not certain anymore. I can't recall if Nxc3 was new, or just improved. I only studied 2 or 3 decades of the early games. lol I've gotten lazy   ... so can only say for sure that "Magnus Carlsen & Garri Kasparov KNOW, tho~! "
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Peace Chessfriends,
...away from the board that is }8-)

I think Lasker later did a lot toward attempting to defuse these gambits vs 1....e5
shamash
04-Dec-11, 00:29

the comet Charousek
The nervous and brilliant Rezső Charousek --
able to hold his own against Maroczy and Chigorin,
surpass Marco, Albin, Winawer, Schelechter, and Steinitz in tournament play,
and to defeat Blackburne, Janowski, and Emanuel Lasker ---
was a Hungarian chessplayer born in Prague.
baronderkilt
04-Dec-11, 03:17

Thx for the info Shamash !
I should have known. I have a bit of a hobby of associating nationality with last names, and also physical & facial features. The ...sek should have tipped me off. Eg, as in Janosek etc.

Was there not some early player from India; strong & tactical ? I don't know why I cannot shake myself of the idea there was.
shamash
04-Dec-11, 06:17

India's best
You mean before the great, natural player Sultan Khan?
ionadowman
04-Dec-11, 11:21

Who was it said:
'Before the endgame, the gods have placed the middlegame.'
(I think it was Dr Siegbert Tarrasch)

'The winner is he who made the second to last mistake.'
(Might have been Savielly Tartakower)
baronderkilt
05-Dec-11, 01:04

Ionadowman ...
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Ion , I am 99.95% sure it is Tarrasch ... OR a .05% chance it was Johnny Depp, POSING as Dr. Siegbert Tarrasch ... Yeah. WE're GOING FOR IT

. . . . . \\\ "Final Answer~!" \\\ . . . . }8-D
brigadecommander
11-Dec-11, 11:44

who said it?
i don't know how i can win 6-games from him, but i also don't know how he can win 6 games
from me!!