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baronderkilt
07-Dec-11, 05:40

Where does Chess rank among your hobbies !?
Ques 1... and what others then ? , Ques 2... What is your particular specific Chess order? EG for: Corr Chess, OTB Chess, blitz Chess, Variants(eg bughouse, aka doubles blitz), tournaments? etc and or others.

For me it is easy to say now.
1) Chess 2) Reading Sci-fi, 3)Online Bridge play, 4)other online games
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Tho in saying so, it must be considered that I LIVE FOR, family & music. In the sense that I most Always listen to music, even during play, especially online blitz Chess. This is not to say its what I am Best At, which would probably be:

1) Business {what can I say, my only Natural talent left. Tho I don't do much with it these days}. (2)online Bridge (3) "meta-casino" {this is a game where you beat up on Casinos for small stakes just to be there & say outrageous things to their security mic's &/or house players; less fun now that they Admit the mic's are there. The object is to make em nervous, without actually being thrown out; after which the object is to be let back in. haha. oh well. )
(4) poetry & lyrics. Not as proficient writing now, but my angst supply is quantitatively & qualitatively better than ever. Even as teen. lol. [humourous aside. They thought I was another bad guitar player(And, I AM~!) with no friends. Did some publicly last month, now have MANY guitar friends~! Big LOL] (5)Wargames. You will note I do not include Chess on this list. And never have. HOw about you?
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So whats it like for you?

Regards All, Baron Der

[BTW: I am looking for any GK player(s) who care to join me for any Bridge play at BBO online.
Bridge skill does not matter, beginner on, as I enjoy all as partners on club tables, am quite easygoing & never blame partners, unlike some .
But also looking for a few for Expert match play or Advance level & plus tourney play there. ACBL or not. Give me a PM if interested, pls. Ty.
OH, even for that I'm still easygoing, unless you Need me to be a Churlish P who makes Excuses tevery game. Warn you tho, am probably better at bad behavior than you, if I Try ... Afterall, was once a Chess Director And Corr Master. SO not only have great experience at surliness; but 10,000 pretested excuses from the latter ... IF you NEED IT from me. heheheh]
baronderkilt
07-Dec-11, 07:35

Correction:
I just flipped in here to see someones post I thought might be here, and noticed my own grammar deficiency rearing its ugly head again.

Above should say, ...another guitar player with no UTUBE friends, did some LYRICS. HOLY Grandmasters in Heaven, do Not take that as Did some Guitar playing on Youtube & made some friends. NO indeed, those you render DEAF do not appreciate it, in my experience. LOL.

Also forgot my standard disclaimer, any claim to be/have been Good at anything is neither self-promotion nor machismo, but in fact put forth as yet more proof of my own philisophical holding that "man is life weird, see what I mean!?!"

So PLS don't forget That. I can't afford to be anymore misunderstood. Me & Rodney Dangerfield. ok?

}80) ...wait, that's Rodney. Ok, this is me ... }8-D
brigadecommander
11-Dec-11, 11:41

i have 5
in order of affection and most time spent on, my hobbies are; 1st,Astronomy. 2nd.Wild life
photography. 3rd,reading History(especially Paleoanthropology).4th,Chess.5th. Farming.
ionadowman
11-Dec-11, 14:53

H'mmm... Let's see...
1st: Wargaming (big margin, here, because wargaming covers a lot of ground, including a good deal of the following);
2nd: History (not just military);
3rd: Chess;
4th: Children's Fantasy Literature (including Young Adult). Having made a bit of a study of this genre (I have a Diploma in Ch. Lit.), and its associations with history, legend and mythology (all interests of mine), I find the best of this sort of thing extremely rich in ideas. For instance, formula writing Harry Potter might be, but it is very high quality formula writing;
5th: World, National and Local Politics as spectator sport. The way things are going now, our World Leaders are a cross between the Three Stooges, the Keystone Cops, Heinrich Himmler and Bobo the Klown: incompetently funny in a very scary kind of way.
brigadecommander
11-Dec-11, 15:09

ionadowman
then you must love Tolkien!!! i adore his books. I should have mentioned reading as a hobby
also!! and Wargaming though i don't do it as much as i used to. i AGREE ABOUT politics..its
getting scary that people who used to be pushed to the margins as jokers now can get real
power.
ionadowman
11-Dec-11, 16:27

Yep...
... Colour them red, colour them blue: the loonies took over the asylum decades ago. One feels one oughtta do something, but putting on a barbeque for the local Occupy is about my speed...  

I really like 'The Hobbit', can't say I like LOTR quite as much. 'The Fellowship of the Ring' is great, but after that the whole gig got overlong, for mine. I found Peter Jackson's movies the same. Contrary to most opinions I've heard, I liked the first best (his Balrog was so close to the way I imagined it, it was uncanny). Have to admit, though, the battle scenes before the walls of Minas Tirith were really something... And the charge of the Rohirrim to my mind gives the answer to rule writers who thought Huns and Vikings and Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and all fought 'in wedge'... OK: the Byzantine kataphraktoi adopted a sort of wedge formation...

But my comments on LOTR are not inconsistent, I think, with my having read the book(s) twice, and then a third time when I read them to Ursula when she was about 10.

Some of my other favorites would be Terry Pratchett's 'Bromeliad' trilogy, and his Discworld (both Adult and Children's stories - though I tend to think of his Children's stories set in this world as 'Children's books for adults'); Philip Pullman's 'His Dark Materials' trilogy (though the movie was rather disappointing, for mine); Harry Potter (of course, though Book 5 was a bit overlong, and some of the narrative devices in Book 7 clunked, just a little bit...); Diana Wynne Jones's 'Hexwood', and her 'Chrestomanci' series; James Patterson's 'Maximum Ride'; and John Marsden's 'Tomorrow, when the War began' series; Neil Gaiman's 'The Graveyard Book' are all pretty good... Oh, and Philip Reeves's 'Mortal Engines' etc, with its motif of 'Municipal Darwinism' is an intriguing look at the far future...

One thing I have noticed, though, about a good deal of modern fantasy: the level of violence, or at least the suggested level of violence. Without conflict, you don't have a story, but there's more than one type of conflict...

Oh, by the way: my even favoriter literary genre: historical novels. Horatio Hornblower, Jack Aubrey (forget the movie 'Master and Commander' - it sucked), Harry Flashman - all great and memorable characters. I'm not sure in what genre you would place Poul Anderson's 'Hrolf Kraki's Saga' - possibly historical but it's a great yarn. And if you're into Romance (I'm using it in a sense different from 'love story') check out 'The Sorrow of Odin the Goth' by the same author (It was the second part of the paperback 'Time Patrolman', but it's a kind of retelling of the 'Nebelungenlied' in a semi-SF/historical context. I don't know how easy it would be to obtain a copy).

Cheers,
Ion

shamash
11-Dec-11, 17:05

Deleted by shamash on 11-Dec-11, 17:05.
shamash
11-Dec-11, 17:07

regarding that parentetical remark treating the genetic fallacy of conflict:
regarding the observation:

<<"Without conflict, you don't have a story. . . ">>

Naturally that would be the viewpoint of a war-gamer:
but not All games are competitive (yes, there are co-operative games),
and not all stories are rooted in conflict.

Though I realize I am in the minority, yet
I believe the basis of a tale is not conflict but Desire.

Some could even say that modern science and religion grew out of creation myths:
again, not necessarily tales of conflict so much as the Desire to Know how we began.

One example of a successful drama without conflict
is Thorton Wilder's OUR TOWN.
brigadecommander
11-Dec-11, 17:35

the good earth
another is the 'good earth' by P.S.Buck. Another is 'a tree grows in Brooklyn' and another is 'to
kill a mocking bird'
ionadowman
11-Dec-11, 20:56

Now here we have to disagree...
... All those stories involve conflict. I think the apprehension is that there is only one kind of conflict. I did hint at that in my last posting.

Person vs person conflict, expressed in terms of physical violence does feature largely in many popular stories: Bilbo vs Smaug, say, or Harry vs Voldemort.

But how about Harry vs Neville (Philosopher's Stone), or Harry vs the Miinistry of Magic? How about Harry trying to find the message in the Dragon's egg?

One might be in conflict with society at large, with nature, even, in the case of an internal dilemma, with oneself. All these conflicts can be compelling. If you ever watch 'Man vs Wild' - you will see in each show a story, a conflict between a man and nature at large. Not that I go for it much myself, I can see why many would.

Here endeth, before Professor Ion becomes too tiresome, the lecture...  
Cheers,
Ion
amacivn
17-Dec-11, 09:31

Mine has to be
Boring to probably everyone
1.Liverpool Football Club
2.Fantasy reading
3.Chess
4.Bike riding (with my daughter) not sure if this is a hobby tho' , but definitely necessary , for an easy life,
Just wondering how many people would put chess as no. 1 ?
danthebugman
23-Dec-11, 19:46

Entomology -> Herpetology -> Cigars -> Beer -> Chess

Always in a fluctuating order.