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woutstra 24-Dec-12, 06:39 |
 Book about chess Openings..Thanks in advance |
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However,openings should really not be learned first,there are plenty of other things to learn before you tackle openings,but here goes: www.chessville.com www.chessville.com |
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woutstra 24-Dec-12, 07:23 |
if you need anything on how far I am in chess feel free to ask some questions |
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woutstra 24-Dec-12, 07:25 |
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www.alibris.com |
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Learning how to control the center,avoiding hypermodern openings,tactics and positional play,point value's and point value variations and so much more must be learned first.There is no one book that does it all,infact,most of my beginner books I gave away years ago.There is nothing wrong,however in "glancing"at opening's and doing a bit of homework on them,but learning the basics of the "whys" of openings and how the better ones came about is key.And this is where the sea of books on conrolling the center and articles online can be researched.Also playing at a local chess club will make you a better player by interacting you with live games and hopefully other players helping you out in real time face to face many times is better than this online stuff. The USCF suggests a basic book prior to going into openings.I haven't read it,but many of my beginner friends at the club have and said its a good one.... shop.everything.com TA |
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woutstra 25-Dec-12, 04:13 |
And where i live i dont have much opponents just 1 or2 smart guys who are able to pick it up as I teach them(wich is realy basic stuff) Thanks for that suggestion ill defenitly check it out |
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tactical_abyss 25-Dec-12, 05:08 |
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Misconceptions on the learning process.... I have argued with someone a few months ago in the GK forums over this and laughed to myself at how ridiculous someone thinks that you "must"do this and that first,in a particular learning order like some grandma's cake recipe in order to succeed and become a very good chess player.The mindset of some chess coaches are:I have successfully taught 100 students with chess theory first,then went into openings,so woutstra,in no way could you learn chess properly by memorizing or studying some chess openings first!This is,of course,not necessarily true and does not take into account that students can learn successfully and even BETTER in alternate ways.It really depends upon your own mind and the way you organize your thought process,woutstra.I have a Ph'D in Psychology,so I believe I know a thing or two about the subject.For example,you could memorize a small or medium amount of openings first and subvariant lines without knowing anything at all about chess!!Ridiculous?Not really!You would then place this opening knowledge "aside"in your memory on "hold"for your subconscious to brew this around a bit and visualize the positions,even without understanding the theory behind the moves.Then later,as time goes on,study tactics,puzzles,point values,positional play,piece pattern recognition and many other details involved with chess theory....and have your mind "link"the two together as you visualize your newly attained knowledge with the past memorized openings and abracadabra...it all makes sense now!!You crosslinked the facts together,but in reverse!Sort of like having the answer ahead of time to an algebraic equation and being able to better visualize and figure out the steps to answering the equation if you have the answer first...like backtracking on a highways directions. So what dosen't work for one chess player(or a hundred chess players),can and sometimes will work even BETTER for another player learning in chess or other things in life.Infact,I have personally observed a number of beginners in chess do some research on chess openings and memorization initially,then go on to the other basics and do very well in the game! So,never listen to anyone telling you that you"must"learn in a certain step like way(especially in any chess forum).Yes,its a good idea to crack open the books first on chess theory,but as I said,its not grandma's cake recipe for everones palate or taste! Vrolijk als kerstkaart en gelukkig nieuwjaar! TA |
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woutstra 25-Dec-12, 06:26 |
I just wanted to say that I don't think there is one way to learn chess the reason I tought Oppenings would be next is because I feel I got a decent understanding of the endgame and how to achieve it(note Just the understandin I still have to learn to aply it) so I figgured the next step would be openings so I at least understand each part of the game might be overthinking this anyway thanks for the great help I will probably be able to read everything tomorrow and will probably order my "first" chess book in the new year |
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I,myself studied and memorized a few chess openings when I was 10 years old and just learning.I had no idea of how and why I was even doing it,it was more out of curiosity than a program of chess study,sort of like an abstract experiment.Later,after looking more deeply into the chess theory I quickly understood the paintings(or memorized lines in the Ruy and English by analogy)and was able to fit the pieces together very nicely.Must have worked,for my corresp AND OTB rating exceeds 2400. TA |
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For a free resource with some basic opening videos, you can check out www.thechesswebsite.com. He has some pretty decent ~10 minute videos that are aimed at the beginning players (they don't go too in depth, but they do show you how to play against some of the common mistakes you'll see from your opponent, which many other opening resources overlook). |
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the way to learn chess openings. . . and the consequences of various responses. A useful companion on first encountering pretty much All the openings is Fred Reinfeld's COMPLETE BOOK OF CHESS OPENINGS. A more in-depth look at 10 of the more popular systems encountered (Sicilian, Queen's Gambit, Ruy Lopez, etc.) would then be his WINNING CHESS OPENINGS. |
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woutstra 16-Feb-13, 05:26 |
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ketchuplover 16-Feb-13, 05:53 |
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Again,that book covers some basic thoughts and strategies,but I think it will be a good start for your book collection.But finding a club like you have is key.I owe alot of my chess ability(infact most of it)to playing at a few clubs I have been a member of over my lifetime.There you should find various levels of players from beginner to master and maybe even an occassional GM popping in once in a while.Do not be discouraged at the club level,however.There will be alot of players better than you who will be able to defeat you game after game,but thats how you can learn.But you must also find players at your level or ones YOU can win against as well.This will motivate and inspire you to keep playing and see why you are winning...then improve on other ways to win,other opening experimentations and more.Alot of clubs post on certain days a time for beginner lab practice or competition between the beginner or unrated players.As more of a beginner,you should try and find players that prefer more leisure play without the use of a chess clock.Thats sometime's is a bit harder to find in an established club,since many players do not want a game to drag on for long periods of time.But you can still find a player willing to play without a clock,especially after any mini tourneys are complete that day. |
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woutstra 16-Feb-13, 06:45 |
also i rarly get discouraged by losing as long as i learned something its not a loss |
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They might not want to look at that lost game and take the time where they went wrong,they might feel slightly demoralized or discouraged and psychologically(oh that word again!)refrain from looking at that loss,or simply do not know how to go about improving on that weak play of theres.Also some players only want to play opponents that they will win against 80-100% of the time.It makes them feel better(psychologically!)and puts a grin on their faces for the rest of the day,but have they improved their game just playing 800 rated opponents?No. But again,you can learn in winning and losing scenarios. Well,even a small club is better than none.GL to you! |
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My Two Cents Worth I've probably wasted more money on opening chess books than on any other part of my game. And I never really finish reading them as I quickly become disengaged from the materail shortly after starting. The problem I think is that the majority just seem to be reams and reams of variations (what most people call analysis). I think these are probably for more advanced players so it's my own fault for buying them. By far the best and most useful of the lot is Fundamental Chess Openings by Paul Van der Sterran, already mentioned by tisamon. It explains the idea behind the first several moves and makes for fascinating reading. I think if the average player got this book and followed shamash's advice of just playing the opening your interested in and learning from your mistakes as you go along is probably the best way to learn them. There is a big difference between reading about chess theory and actually experiencing it over the board. Having said that I think the best books on particular chess openings are those that verbally describe the strategy involved (for average players and below average players like myself). Examples of this would be Pirc Alert by Lev Alburt and Alex Chernin and Dutch Stonewall by Jacob Aagaard. I`m sure there are others but those two I do own and are very good. |
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