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rehcsifybbob 12-Jan-09, 16:02 |
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1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 dxe4 4.Nxe4 Nd7 5.Qe2!? Ngf6?? 6.Nd6#. |
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premium_steve 13-Jan-09, 13:49 |
it takes a couple of more moves, though: 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e5 3.dxe5 Ng4 4.Nf3 Nc6 5.Bf4 Bb4+ 6.Nbd2 Qe7 7.a3 Ngxe5 8.axb4???, Nd3# If White plays e3 instead on move 8, he's doing fine of course . I've since given up on playing the Budapest pretty well, but I could look into it again some time... I don't think it's so bad. |
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chessnovice 13-Jan-09, 15:15 |
... It is rather rare. And on the flipside, I'd venture to say that the King+Rook vs. King mate is probably the most common mating scenario. |
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... 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. d3 Be7 6. O-O d6 7. d4 exd4 8. Nxd4 Bd7 9. Nxc6 Bxc6 10. Bxc6+ bxc6 11. Nc3 O-O 12. Bg5 Nxe4 13. Bxe7 Qxe7 14. Re1 d5 15. f3 Qc5+ 16. Kh1 Nf2+ 17. Kg1 Nh3+ 18. Kh1 Qg1+ 19. Rxg1 Nf2# Then again - I played only two games there Usually it is something both players see coming during the calculation of variations and they take evasive action - so it hardly ever materializes. |
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pgroenborg 14-Jan-09, 05:23 |
Sveshnikov 1.e4, c5. 2.Nf3, Nc6. 3.d4, cxd4. 4.Nxd4, Nf6. 5.Nc3, e5. 6.Nbd5, d6. 7.Bg5, a6. 8.Na3, b5. 9.Bxf6, gxf6. 10.Nd5, f5. 11.Bd3 and now it is possible, but certainly not good to play: ...Ne7 to challenge the important d5 square and cover f5 at once. However white chuckles and plays 12.Nf6# since the Q no longer defends f6. I've been on that side of the black position in a blitz game or two... And I made a smothered mate OTB in a game where I had 5 minutes and my opponent 55 minutes (due to rating difference and compensation). I used exactly 63 seconds to do that for the whole game |
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 game game game (quite identical to algol's situation actually)
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I thought the definition of a smothered mate was : A checkmate delivered by a knight in which the mated king is unable to move because he is surrounded (or smothered) by his own pieces. But if we allow cases where the mating knight also covers an escape field, then the amount of examples increases. For instance game
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chessnovice 15-Jan-09, 17:48 |
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game was quite cute too
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pgroenborg 17-Jan-09, 04:27 |
algos's definition is correct |
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game This was as close as I've come to being the victim of smothered mate. I'm white, gothicgirl black. I was on top of the game with a strong attack, and I wanted the g2-b7 diagonal clear for my final assault, so I played f4 with the intention of shifting the knight, with the follow up move e5. gothicgirl played Ng4, and I so nearly instantly moved the pawn. I stopped in my tracks and realised how big a hole I was on the brink of falling into... I played Rb5 and gothicgirl's counter-attack fizzles into nothing. Phew. Looking back, perhaps Nd3 is better, as it threatens the same mate, while bringing the knight into defence where he is badly needed. But that's an irrelevant side point. I have once won with a similar smothered mate, can't remember my opponent, but I lured him into it with a rook sac I think. It's certainly rare, but important knowledge as it can crop up when you least expect it... |
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It is interesting to see what gets missed in old games! This one was just a case in which I remember nearly falling into the smothered mate trap. The funny thing is if gothicgirl had not spotted the smothered mate potential, perhaps she would've found the right move to counter. Having a look at how the game actually went, this position crops up a couple of moves later... I played 27. Bxb7+! I seem to remember spending a good bit of time looking at Rxb7, looking at the various mating nets thinking it was forced mate in 6. I soon realised it was actually mate in 5... for black. There's that smothered mate again... 27. Rxh7? Qc5+ |
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ecob 08-Feb-09, 08:02 |
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SMOTHERED MATE INVOLVING QUEEN SACRIFICE!game Pascal |
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baronderkilt 25-Feb-12, 07:43 |
Another Smothered Mate today in 3 minute blitz ... ************************************************************** Pascal ... Congrats on your nice variant of Philador's Legacy, for your Smothered MATE ! *************** About the rarity of Smothered Mates mentioned; as I understand it to be a proper Smothered Mate, the pieces surrounding the opponent's King must all be of his own color. So that leaves out positions that have any of the attacker's pieces touching the enemy monarch. I suspect that those, together with positions where the King in surrounded except for one square BUT that one gets covered by the Knight that mates at the same time its check is delivered; would add considerably to the Smothered Mate count if permitted. Perhaps twice as many ?! I don't know, but to my sensibilities, the former is at least equal in beauty to a proper Smother, since the Mater had to figure out how to put that blocking piece there, which only addes complexity. And about the Latter, I find it very pretty when the N not only mates but covers the flight square. There can be only 2 squares on the board from which it can do that in any given position, as well. Making it all the harder to do. I've had several dozen Smothered mates at least. Mostly blitz tho, or fast Chess in general. And that is from 42 years of play. And more than 20,000 games since starting online Chess here and another blitz site. One thing I can say, my count went up dramatically from several themes. One of course was learning Philidor's Legacy. This must have more than doubled them. The other is knowing of traps in the opening which permit it if the opponent is being hasty & thoughtless. The best being the Caro-Kann trap pointed out by Blake78613 . Which also works in the 2 Knights Attack where WT does not play 2.d4 but rather Nf3 (and Nc3). Qe2 can still be played for that same mate. Blake mentions seeing a half-dozen from it(!). Yeah, it seems particularly effective vs players that don't get their head into the game from the start. After all, they are play the SAFE, POSITIONAL Caro-Kann ... What's to Worry?! lol. And besides being especially effective in its malicious intent, the thing also PLAYS pretty well even if they don't fall into the trap, and probably makes a position WT is more familiar with than the Caro player ... who may also take extra time trying to refute the opening. I've played it vs a State Champ calibre Expert tho, in a tournament. And I lost the game, because Kevin ALWAYS beats me. The opening tho, was fine. Even favorable, if I am remembering the correct game from 25 years back. And it caught an "A" in the trap in tourney. So it is worth knowing those if you are going to go hunting Kings to smother. I just Might be tempted to play the Caro trap line in a Corr Chess game someday. Not thinking they would fall into the trap, but as a probably 2nd rate line that I would presumably know better than the opponent, which I feel would hold thru the opening an make some novel play. (Consider the 2.Qe2 of Tchigorin vs the French). |
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baronderkilt 25-Feb-12, 08:50 |
It must be my day for Knights !? Tho this one seems not too air-tight, but gets the job done. But truly, what to call the ones where one of the pieces smothering is not the opponents? Or where a Knight checks and covers the flight square simultaneously? (I'm thinking that one be "The Open Barn Door Mate", getting jumped on by a horse slipping thru a crack like that!?) ***************************************************** gameknot.com ******************* Here are some ideas I had: Semi-Smothered Mate Pseudo-Smothered Mate Water-tight Mate Strangled Mate Gasping For Breath Mate Non-mono-chromatic Mate As you can see, I need some help with this one. Ideas, Please ! And if we can come up with a couple reasonable ones, I will officialize the christening by sending the new name to Jeff Peterson, aka bucklehead , who is the official "Writer I send all new words and names to" whom you may recognize as also being the creator of the Peterson Defense, of Anti-Danish fame. Think quick and dont passed up this chance for Chess immortality. (I can assure you it will be credited to the inventor each time it is mentioned by the official-self-appointed-name-dropper-of-GK as well. ) |
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thereaper1 26-Feb-12, 18:25 |
The thing about smothered mates is |
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baronderkilt 26-Feb-12, 18:54 |
True ... People tend to look for MateInOne's lol |
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a smothered mate made easygame
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brigade commander's smothered mate |
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baronderkilt 04-Mar-12, 21:35 |
brigadecommander ... |
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An oldie but a goodie |
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I had my first smothered mate |
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