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nyctalop
14-Apr-10, 11:39

Tactics
Tactics will only get you so far. After that there is the endgame and knowledge of that is more
fundamental than anything else in chess.

I said before that tactics are important and they are good practice but once your tactical has
developed to a certain extent there is very little to be gained by continuing to practice only
sacrifices and matting attacks.

Precise knowledge of endgames is the best way to score points and improve your rating.

mattdw
14-Apr-10, 12:01

Yes, we both agree that tactics are important, and I also believe endgames are important. But when you say that once tactical ability has developed to a certain extent that there is very little to be gained from it...are you aware that the vast majority of games of the original posters games are lost because of very simple tactical themes? It is clear that his defeats are as a result of tactical oversights or thought process errors. He's either not spotting the bad moves due to lack of tactical awareness, or he is failing to figure them out due incorrect logical deduction/not analysing all forcing moves.

I would agree that endgame practice would help calcution abilities, but in this case its not really the issue when his games are lost as a result of hung pieces from sinlge move mistakes and 1/2 ply tactical errors.

If he can force a win in the basic endgames positions (K v R, K v Q) and force a lone pawn to promote by understanding opposition, then he doesn't need to know a great deal more than that until he can actually reach an endgame where it matters.

Of course, I am speaking from my experience alone, as is everyone else, but what I'm proposing worked for me - in about 12 months from absolute beginner I gained ~500 rating points here with probably 90% of my study dedicated to tactics and the rest being a mix of basic opening principles, basic strategic principles and basic ending principles.
ionadowman
14-Apr-10, 15:30

I'd put it a little differently:
... of the 6 most recent games, chess_avenger has won one (not a bad win, actually) and lost the other 5. All five were lost to short-range oversights, one-movers for the most part, but the occasional 2-move combinations as well.

A couple of other things to note:
[1] chess_avenger has had a rating in the high 1500's, and you don't get there without a reasonable tactical knowledge. Certainly you need a good knowledge of the short range motifs - pin, fork, multi-checks, skewers, masked batteries...
[2] The one win in the sequence did indeed show that chess_avenger was familiar with these ideas.

I am surmising, then, that there is something about the way chess_avanger is playing the game that might be the cause of the trouble. Playing too fast - even playing the games in real time - might be a contributing factor. Playing 'on-screen' could be a problem anyway, and the dear old pysical chess board beside the machine might be indicated. Finally, there could be a problem with not really attending to what your opponent can and can't do. it is easy - especially if playing fast is a factor - to play solely from you own point of view, without taking into account the opponent's plans.

At any rate, these might be points that have to be looked into and eliminated as contributory factors in a recent slump.
ionadowman
14-Apr-10, 15:33

Confirmation...
I've just checked the 'average move time' in chess_avenger's profile. 2 hours. That's pretty fast! Slowing down - using more time to study the games - might see an improvement without any further corrective action.
mattdw
14-Apr-10, 17:29

Ion, I did actually come to a similar conclusion but lost the post when I pressed the back button in my browser by mistake! ...but no one is gonna believe that though!  

But yes, I had noticed that he had a higher rating in the past, which suggested to me that something must have changed to result in such a large drop in rating, it looked to be outside the range of normal statistical variation. I thought it would either be a reduction in motivation or the deterioration of a previously more thorough thought process....both of which would be manifested in a rapid average move time.

Interestingly his average move per game shows 1.3 hours on my computer, could this be because my premium account expired and may be taking the averages from a smaller number of games? If that is the case then it suggests that he has started playing much faster...which would explain a lot.

Moving too fast was included in what I would consider a sensible thought process. If you aren't taking long enough to, at the absolute minimum, consider your opponents immediate reply then you are moving too fast (for correspondence at least). If he considers candidate moves to quiescence, compares their evaluation, picks the best move and undertakes a last minute blunder check - then he is much more likely to be taking the necessary length of time.
mattdw
14-Apr-10, 17:33

Mistake...
...from typing too fast  

When I said, "Moving too fast was included in what I would consider a sensible thought process."

I meant, " 'Moving too fast' was included in my original post, I considered it part of failing to use sensible thought process."
tugger
15-Apr-10, 18:44

It seems that we are getting to the source of this particular player's main weakness which is holding him back... analysis. Taking the "analyse board" link and freely moving the pieces around is a wonderful thing, I pulled this one off when my rating was at 1590...



24. Bc3?...
Mate in 11

Now, black is up a pawn and is clearly enjoying the better position, but there are one or two things potential traps out there. The first move should be the obvious line of attack...

24... g4!
25. Rxd8+ (an attempt to lure me into a mistake) Kxd8
26. bxc7+...



If black just blindly takes the pawn, then 27. Bxe5+ wins knight, and the bishop can then defend against the weakened attack by sitting at g3. The game is very probably now lost. If the black king blocks the pawn, then white can desperately stave off mate with a bishop sac, Bxe6+; if the rook takes, then white just has time to move his f2 pawn to stave off mate, and if the knight takes, then Bxe5 can block at g3.

But I already knew what I was playing if he played 26. bxc7+...

26... Ke7!

If he promotes to queen, gxf3 mates quickly. Aware of this, he tries to underpromote in a desperate attempt to fight off mate...

27. c8=N+ Kf8!

He has run out of checks, and all he can do is delay the inevitable, and his best play now follows...

28. Ne7 Kxe7
29. Bf1 gxf3+
30. Bg2 Rxg2+
31. Kh1 Rg8
32. Rg1 Bg2+
33. Rxg2 fxg2+
34. Kg1 Nh3#


Now, if I don't analyse, I don't play this well. And if I don't play this well, then my rating does not soar from 1590 to 1790 in little over nine months. This is not grandmaster chess, this is within the capability of anyone who can be bothered to study the position they see before them. If a 1590 player can do this, then it should be clear that if you don't analyse, then you'll really struggle to outplay people at this rating range, and therefore your rating will not rise beyond these heights. But if you analyse well, then you will play some great chess which you'll brag about in forums, and you'll get to the 1700's before you know it. Then it's about playing like this consistently if you want to acheive even better things. Unfortunately, I don't play this well every game, and now I'm up in the high 1700's, I'm playing a lot more players in the 1800 range, which means they are more likely to avoid such positions in the first place, for example he should have move his pawn to f4 long ago, but he let me block it with my knight. An 1800 player would not allow this.

If you want to reach 1700's and beyond, analysis is a must, because everyone else at that rating and above is analysing as much as they have time for.
tugger
15-Apr-10, 18:49

Deleted by tugger on 15-Apr-10, 18:51.
tugger
15-Apr-10, 19:11

Back onto pawn moves...



I'm white, and it's me to move. Black has the edge, but he's not dominant, and material is still even.

17. b4? Be7!

Now black has a huge advantage. One duff pawn move. See the consequences here...
game

If I play 17. Rcd1 then maybe it's a different story. The benefit of hindsight, huh?
shamash
14-Jul-11, 13:45

an all-around prescription for chess_avenger
GM Paul Motwani, who tells me he measures strength in chess by the ability to harmonize the pieces, wrote an interesting series of books you in particular may find fun and useful.

It begins with "H.O.T. CHESS", a book I very much recommend for you.

tactical_abyss
17-Jul-11, 17:55

chess avenger....
All of the advice in this string should prove invaluable to you in order to improve your game.Reading books or getting up to date DVD's(like from the USCF online store)will help,studying chess tactics as mentioned is also good.But truthfully ,you can only get so much out of a book,DVD,chess tactic puzzle,ect ect.After a while the mind or brain becomes numb looking at books for example!When you begin to yawn,you know its time to close that book!

I have found out that the mind needs more than books and puzzles and plastic disks to suddenly improve your game 200 points!So,I would suggest 2 things.Make the game much more interesting for your brain to assimilate knowledge,gather a better picture of the pieces,board,more instant gradification,fun and more.How?If possible 1.Join a local chess club in your area.There you can get many players of different levels to help you improve,play with,socialize and not wait 2 months to finish a game!Learning can come more rapidly with human interaction between you and 20 other people!Trust me,I know what i'm talking about!Playing on real boards will give the brain a different perspective and eventual higher intellectual insight into the game.It will later make you become a better corresp player as well.

2.I highly suggest purchasing one of those tabletop real board chess computers with all the bells and whistles and level options built in from beginner to senior master strength.You can adjust the strength even in mid game,play take back moves and more.As you improve,you simply raise it up a notch to the next level.Yes,there are things like fritz,shredder and others that you can plug into your computer and play the same way,but I truly think the mind needs to grasp the game on a real board rather than a 2D screen.Its a subconscious thing to make it just a nip harder to take your pieces off the board that the computer captured(punishment)and to take the computers pieces off the board it becomes more of a (reward).You'll remember that tactical position better and avoid it next time!

I have improved from approx 1700 in the 1960's to presently around 2500,give or take a few dozen points.I attribute most of those gains from yes,reading alot of books(and I have about 2000!).....but I would say,even moreso from playing in a club and using my Tasc R-30,Phantom Eyeball,Mach 3,4 and even Boris in a box from the early 1970's!Those table "buddies"of mine kept me good company on many a rainy night and kept me instantly sharp wheneven I felt in the mood to play!Some of the machines even talk to you or type out messages telling you how bad a player you are.....Ha ha!

TA
jkarp
26-Dec-11, 20:58

Getting through Obstacles
Learning how to overcome obstacles is the best way for him or her to become better at chess.
jkarp
26-Dec-11, 21:03

For example, there were moments where I became enraged, got due to obstacles outside of chess, got fatigued, became overconfident, and that is, "all, but to name a few". One of those moments are explained in this game against feistypawn and felt like a firecracker due to a mistake in a different. This is the annotation of my game against feistypawn. gameknot.com
jkarp
26-Dec-11, 21:54

Deleted by jkarp on 27-Dec-11, 06:48.
shamash
26-Dec-11, 22:03

creative anger
each to his own, Joe.

for me, playing totally ignorant of the established tabiya of openings, I would Always get myself into trouble, including at tournaments;
that would get me furious at myself;
the anger would force me to be creative and think up moves that could turn the game around.

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