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tactical_abyss
03-Jul-11, 16:03

TA's reverse pro-time-out advice!(Humor)!?
Alot of players hate opponents that time-out.And I can see where this would be a problem in team play(if its a member of your team)or some tourneys.

So,I read in the forums so many players complaining about time-outs,I thought i'd do the reverse....and seek them out!Ha ha!

But,I for one absolutely adore an opponent that times-out!That is,if it is just a one on one opponent....not a team game or tournament.Why wouldn't I?A few extra points never hurts!

So this is sort of meant as fun "humor" and TA's "secret receipe" to actually FIND opponents that have an increased probability of timing-out and increasing that probability even more!

1.Look on the potential future opponents profile and past game history.
2.Does he have a past game history of time-outs?A recent string of time-outs?A higher % of T.O's?
3.Is he playing a 2 day setting or 3 day setting?
4.If not a "string"of time-outs,are they timing-out in closed games or open games?
5.When are they timing out in their past game history?What month?Is there a "recognizeable
pattern" to the time out....like in the winter?
6.Do they keep their online status on or off?
7.Have you observed a time pattern to when they move?
8.Do you use alot of conditional moves?Irregular openings?
9.Are you aware of "when" alot of players tend to time-out during the year?
10.Are they playing over 40-50+ games at one time?

Believe it or not,after playing probably 30,000+ corresp games over the last few decades,I have found out that there is an increased probability of opponents timing out around the major holidays,especially Christmas,New Years,Thanksgiving,the 4th of July and of course...Superbowl!
Parties,drinks,the tryptopane in the turkey...putting a player to sleep near his clock reaching zero after a long drive or flight home,traffic jams,planes running late,especially around Thanksgiving!Keep these snarly facts in mind!

Now,by using the secret formula....add in some closed games like a complex closed Sicilian or a semi-slav-anti meran that will take MORE time to self analyze,always try and move right after "they" move(with your status light off)and try to use a big amt of conditional moves extending that "think"time,make sure they have a high % of past time-outs,make sure the game is a 2 day/move game,but 3 days max and start your game with that opponent approx 3 weeks before one of the listed holidays(or during a past pattern of their TO history from perhaps a year prior) and move very quickly,preferrably right after they moved,especially during the week,not weekends where the GK clock add's time.

And finally make sure your opponent is playing a large volume of games...preferrably 50+games at one time with 2 or 3 day time settings!

And abracadabra,you may just have helped along the opponent to time-out,or atleast found a potential player that will time out in a higher probability factor.
Against the rules?No!Unethical?Not really!Alot of work to do all of that?Yes,but,well,so?

So enjoy the humor.... you have now just increased a time-out probability with your opponent....and grab some additional rating points!Ha,ha!

Happy time-out hunting!

TA

blake78613
04-Jul-11, 08:41

I think you have too much time on your hands. How about handling someone who plays two games with you (one white and one Black), and then copies your games. Could some of your methods be adapted? Manipulating the timing so that the games are about to timeout during the superbowl, sounds like an idea.
tactical_abyss
04-Jul-11, 09:07

Hi Blake,
Copies my games...one white,one black?I'm not sure I follow you on that one!?
Checking on opponents prior to playing ANY games is the goal I mentioned.Everything is custom checked per any opponent ahead of time.Then and only then certain styles of play can be adapted like a closed game.
But basically,you can throw out just about everything I said above except one or two reoccuring facts i've seen time and time again....alot of players that take on "too many"games at one time and have only a 2 day setting,even sometimes a 3 day setting,have a higher frequency or probability of timing out.So the strategy is to start your game approx a month or so before a major holiday with a player who is playing like 70+games at one time,especially if his profile gives a higher % of time-outs than other players.No rocket science there!

As to too much time on my hands...well,this time of year I take vacation from work for the month of July into the beginning of Sept.,so yes,I have plenty of time to do whatever.
By the way,I have my reasons playing mostly white on GK.There are "peepers"(spys)as I call them,and they use some of my better games to formulate a planned strategy against me on ICC or my OTB games and at Washington Sq Park in NYC....and money is involved!No,I won't get into the details!So,I seperate my black games under a different handle on another site(all black)to remain anonymous and play mostlly white on GK with a few black thrown in for good measure!
Trust me blake...there are things going on in the chess world,even online that you have no idea about!!!And no,i'm not writing a fictional spy novel here!

Best,
TA
blake78613
04-Jul-11, 10:02

What I mean is that they wait until I move in the game in which I am White and then copy my move in the game in which I am Black. If they are rated much lower than you this can be an annoyance, because the best you can do is break even. What I have done in the past is to wait until I am about time out in the game in which I am White and then move.
blake78613
04-Jul-11, 10:13

I remember that in an international team match. Some small nation tried a variation of this against the Soviets, so that they had the Soviet team playing each other. What the Soviets did was let their clocks run down to about 5 minutes and then made ended up in a Blitz game in a position that they had chosen. This isn't that much of a problem on gameknot, but there are sites where if you enter a tournament you start playing two games against each opponent one White and one Black.
maca
04-Jul-11, 10:48

OMG Blake, that really is clever, and I can't believe they actually tried it in an international tournament!


Regards,
MaCa.
blake78613
04-Jul-11, 11:16

variation on the theme.
www.youtube.com
maca
04-Jul-11, 13:48

Yes Blake, that one I've seen. It really is clever. But enough of that for now. This thread is quickly going off-topic.

Personally, I've always found timeout victories highly unsatisfactory. I guess you might be thrilled just for the rating points and "victory through any means", but for me chess has never been only about those things. In order to feel any proper satisfaction, I must actually defeat my foe on the board; winning through timeout is just not enough.

I guess this makes me something of a chess purist, but in fact I think that the time controls are only a regrettable, practical constraints that one has to implement in order to ensure the game is finished in a finite time-span. I have always greatly despised any strategies the rely heavily on the use of chess clocks as a tool for winning a game. One shouldn't be able to use the time controls to win a position one couldn't win without their presence.

These are all personal preferences, though.


Regards,
MaCa.
tactical_abyss
04-Jul-11, 14:25

Just humor,however....
Actually maca,I mostly agree with you too.Just once in a while however,I don't mind some butter cream "icing" on the cake...if you get my drift!Some players will always "push"the limits of the clock,even if they are not analyzing and aready have the answer.For example,a few players over the years told me that when they figured out their next chess move,they don't put it into the GK board....they purposly wait the full length of days,even up to the last hour,simply because they have been givin the 2 or 3 day time and will not waver from that!Some players will not even look at a game until its about an hour before their clock expires!Believe me,I am quite aware of this.Yes,they can do what they want,but I suppose its like giving some of those players a subliminal message or pushing up on their rear bumper alittle to make them move just a hair faster...like instead of 15 miles an hour in a 50mph zone,atleast do 40mph!If not,then good....T.O.!I'lll take the points!
Players risk alot of TO's by playing clock limits all the time...and again thats ok with me,but if your game times out,don't expect me to reinstate the game...unless you were losing the first one anyway....ha ha!

But I am actually a purist at heart.I still use discriptive notation and read alot of old books in descriptive.And I set up my GK games in my large chess room.Right now,i'm playing 7 chess games.I have 7 boards set up(5 of them being Stauntons) and I analyze off of the real boards,not the GK screen.I'm not as good as the younger guys using a computer screen.I use what I grew up with and computers was not one of them!

TA
kansasjayhawk
04-Jul-11, 16:21

I don't understand the mindset of letting one's clock run down.
My Internet connection can be tenuous at times, and you also never know when you might have
an emergency situation come up. It's probably the OCD in me, but I become uncomfortable if I
have less than 30 hours remaining to move.
tactical_abyss
04-Jul-11, 16:32

I agree kansas,
I'd feel the same way.Some players simply are insecure chess players....this is one reason.
They may,for example,feel that they may want to take a second look or third look at the board before finalizing their move,even if it takes up to the last minute!
Others,believe it or not feel its their "given right"to take almost the entire 2 or 3 days,not because they want to keep looking at the board,but because they feel they must take what was given to them and WON'T be cheated out of their 3 day gift of time!!Sort of like the guy at the smorgasboard....grab every last clam and piece of shrimp that you can and fill that plate so high that you can't even walk back to your table without spilling half of it on the floor!Never mind the guy waiting for shrimp behind you!You paid for it...and your getting your moneys worth or else!!!So,in other words,take all that time given in the time buffet!
Funny,right?But true...