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anomalocaris
07-Nov-14, 13:42
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 California drought
news.yahoo.com
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Whatever its cause, one thing we know for sure.... every illegal alien uses close to 100 gallons of water per day!
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anomalocaris
09-Nov-14, 19:25
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Pecos
That cant be right??
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I think those multiple water main breaks that spilled many millions of gallons of water have really had a negative affect. At least a good spell of cool weather is on the way in Southern California, and hopefully rain with that soon. Since I live there, I hope so, but even 100 inches of rain won't be enough to reverse the extreme drought. You should see the lakes. It's bad though, that's for sure!
You are actually right pecosbill. In fact, I believe in some places, they are using over 200 gallons a day, believe it or not! We all know the rich people will pay the penalties to keep their lawns green.
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California needs a big hurricane like Katrina which drowned New Orleans, LA but unfortunately hurricane season is over.
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John McPhee wrote a 100 pages or so, of the drought and rain cycle of the California costal hills.
You can find it in his collection, "The Control of Nature."
The basic cycle repeats over and over. Drought, wind, a spark and a fire. Then the January rains release the mudslides.
Great read.
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Ed
We actually have 5 seasons here: Drought, fire, rain, mudslides and earthquake.
I remember a hysterically funny interview several years back on TVfrom a guy up in the beautiful coastal areas north and west of LA. (was funny to me, not for him)
We had had an earthquake up there and it destroyed his home (and some others). He rebuilt.
Then we had a very dry summer and then came the fire season. His home was burned down. He rebuilt.
They were interviewing him while he was rebuilding after the fire and they asked him about the intelligence of rebuilding again after an earthquake and a fire. He said" Well, I like the spot here but if the mudslides get me, I may take that as a hint that I'm not wanted".
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Softaire
Forgot quakes.
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The average American
I believe the average household in America uses 143 gallons per person...per day....if I recall correctly.
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Southern California is due for a big quake too. Once a 6.0 to 7.0 hits, well, there goes all the water because a lot of 100+ year old pipe lines will surely rupture!
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Buffalo wallows in the snow. A lot of unwanted snow falls up to 6 feet in upstate New York. A person was found dead in his car in the ditch buried under the snow. Some people died of heart attack shoveling the snow. Nature is unkind. If this snow falls on California mountains, drought problem can be solved.
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anomalocaris
20-Nov-14, 15:18
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Ace
I mentioned once before that it would be great to have a water transport system from certain areas of the country to other areas of the country that don't have enough water. I'm not talking about robbing one area to help another I am talking about flood situations. Take excess water from one area and transport it , via a pipeline type system to another. would probably be expensive but once it was in place could help solve some problems.
Just an idea
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Stinky
It would not be as expensive as high-speed rail and it would be a lot more beneficial.
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anomalocaris
20-Nov-14, 15:39
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Softy
the southeast part of the country usually has an excess of water. There is a yearly flood on the Mississippi like clock work. Sometimes more than one. There are literally hundreds of millions of excess water to be had. To have something in place that only took water above flood stage would hurt no one (that I can think of)
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Softy
Not sure how High Speed Rail figures in the California drought situation
and flood control, but perhaps you could link me up with the
data that supports a method of piping the entire spring runoff
of the Midwest and the Front Range to dry regions.
The Mississippi/ Missouri River ( and the Ohio) systems and it's below ground aquifers
are integral to a substantial part of our farming economy.
I'm not clear on how attempting to control one of the most dynamic
fresh water river systems on the planet is going to be cheaper than
a train from Minneapolis to Chicago.
Much less the obvious situation of people choosing to live
in dry regions because they like the climate but whining
over the fact that there is no water.
Harnessing the Mississippi? That river has been flooding from
New Orleans to St.Paul for millennia. One would need a reservoir
the size of Lake Superior to store the spring runoff of the 3 primary
central rivers. The engineering and infrastructure required to pull
that off is astronomically absurd.
Maybe... in conjunction with an oil pipeline.... that would work.
Think of the jobs!
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anomalocaris
20-Nov-14, 18:58
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Ed
There would be no way to harness the Mississippi. I was talking about diverting flood water , somehow using flood water and redirecting it.
I don't disagree with the whole living in the desert and complaining about no water thing either.
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Stinky
I don't about diverting the flood waters of 31 states.
en.wikipedia.org
Between dams and paved surfaced, we 've created something
of a monster.
It would be great if less runoff water ended up in our rivers.
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anomalocaris
20-Nov-14, 19:32
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Ed
I will admit, I am just thinking. In no way have I come up with anything resembling a plan.
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Stinky
Roger that, Stinky.
I've no idea either.
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Btw, in the book I referred to in a previous post (up near the top of this thread)
there is a piece about the Mississippi and dams and flooding.
It's interesting reading, Stink.
The Control of Nature by John McPhee. It's 30 years old, but still relevant.
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Ed
In California, Jerry Brown has gone ahead with plans for a high-speed rail from Bakersfield to Folsom Prison, or some such. It will cost billions and so far they have not raised the funds required by agreement (law) with our own legislature and the Federal government. No matter, they are moving ahead. It's a multi-billion dollar railroad that goes from nowhere to nowhere.
The could use that money to pipe water from Oregon (where there is plenty) to Southern California where there is little, but plenty of people.
I'm not sure how feasible it would be to try and pipe flood water over the Rockies to California.
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Softy
ooooooh. I see.
For some reason I thought you were in Minnesota.
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ED
I escaped from Minnesota in 1975... the last really nasty Winter until about two years ago. I am enjoying watching (from San Diego) the return of Winters like they had when I grew up there. One of my favorite memories was listening to a Fran Tarkenton interview when he said that "Minnesota is the land of 9 months of Winter and 3 months of bad sledding". HA... and, Wisconsin id not that much better. There is not a colder place than Lambeau Field.
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Funny---I spent my teen years in Minnesota.
I can attest to the totally different kind of cold it has. Deadly, in fact.
Escape while you can...but don't try Buffalo...
dok
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Softy
Now I having a de ja vu.
I believe you told me the same story the last time I thought you were in Minnesota.
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My favorite story! It is so appropriate (or it was when I was growing up). Looks like DOK escaped it too!
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