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 Missing AirlinerIm telling you people, and reminding you of my absolute ability to predict the future, that this plane did not crash! It is going to be repainted, retagged, sold privately in to the middle east, flown round for 18 months, loaded with a nuke and delivered to Chicago or something horrible like that. America's number one threat is the loss of jetliners. 11 or 12 more disappeared recently. Imagine 12 cities...in one day...being attacked with some chemical or dirty bomb or an Iranian nuke...yah...thats called a bad day for the stock market...it would make 9/11 seem like an hors d'oeuvre in comparison to the real meal being brought to the table. I remind you all that my info comes from an experienced pilot that flies the 777 and has specifically told me that it is an absolute impossibility to accidentally lose such a plane. That it would take 15-30 minutes of work to shut off the transponder and it would have to be done at exactly the right time and it would have to be planned well in advance and achieved with a lot of effort. That plane did not crash. dok |
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He stated that the U.S. government and the English government, as well as Boeing and the engine manufacturer, know that and where it is. His speculation was that there were U.S. and English and Malaysian employees of a company on board that were delivering secret or special software to China. They didn't want that software delivered. I haven't seen that contributor on any Fox news since (which doesn't mean much as I don't watch very often). And, of course, that newscast was all hearsay anyway. But that is an interesting conspiracy theory. |
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saintinsanity 13-Oct-14, 22:02 |
don't we have enough to worry about? |
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anomalocaris 13-Oct-14, 22:07 |
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jonheck 14-Oct-14, 05:45 |
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jon Are you admitting that you are closed minded to investigating other possibilities? As far as what happened to the plane... nobody really knows, do they. Or, if somebody does know, they aren't talking. But, my question to you is: How do YOU know that it went down? (meaning crashed) Maybe you have some evidence you can present? So, what I see here is that you have arbitrarily dismissed and discounted diversity of opinion/thought and other possibilities. You have assigned yourself to be the "knower" of all things about the plane. (A good little liberal) |
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Not since Amelia Earhart ____________________________________________________________________________________ Wow: Airline CEO Reveals Something Huge About Flight 370’s Location That No Gov’t Will Say B. CHRISTOPHER AGEE — OCTOBER 13, 2014 After seven months of increasingly experimental searches in various areas of the Indian Ocean, investigators are still no closer to recovering the fuselage of a Malaysia Airlines flight that disappeared from radars somewhere west of Australia. There have been many theories regarding the ultimate fate of Flight MH370, including the opinion behind the latest recovery mission that earlier attempts had been focused too far to the north. Some, however, have concluded that the passenger jet did not actually crash at all, suggesting it could have been hijacked by terrorists who safely landed the plane to await its use in a subsequent attack. While he stayed away from speculation regarding the motivation, the CEO of Emirates Airlines made news recently when he claimed that evidence seems to indicate the plane did not crash into the ocean. Rather than concede the validity of the common narrative that the plane was on autopilot, ran out of fuel, and plummeted into the water below, Sir Tim Clarke shared his opinion that the aircraft was “under control, probably until the very end.” In making his case, the industry expert noted the fact that there has been absolutely no evidence pointing to the remnants of the jet anywhere in the Indian Ocean. “Our experience tells us that in water incidents, where the aircraft has gone down, there is always something,” he said. “We have not seen a single thing that suggests categorically that this aircraft is where they say it is, apart from this so-called electronic satellite ‘handshake,’ which I question as well.” His reticence to accept supposed global positioning information is bolstered by the fact that the tracking system on board the plane was disabled – a feat he suggested was likely deliberate. “Disabling it is no simple thing and our pilots are not trained to do so,” he said. “But on Flight MH370, this thing was somehow disabled to the degree that the ground tracking capability was eliminated.” In the end, his opinion seems to be based most directly on the dearth of evidence. “There hasn’t been one overwater incident in the history of civil aviation – apart from Amelia Earhart in 1939 – that has not been at least 5 or 10 percent trackable,” he concluded. |
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jonheck 23-Oct-14, 04:58 |
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Let me explain. My buddy, who flies these and also happens to fly that part of the world for a living is intimately aware of the entire situation. He said the reason this area would have been chosen is very simple but also very revealing: that is one of the only places in the world that has a 'hole' in the ground radar that follows planes. One it reached this hole, the transponder was manually turned off --with great effort and a sound knowledge of the planes workings. It took at least 15 minutes of work to do...you cannot simply flick a switch. It requires a real effort. He also stated that the real danger is in the middle east...that an airliner can be recycled and brought online as a private jet with a new history. It can then fly into the US or anywhere with permission and there is no denial of access to targeted cities. It would be viewed as one of thousands of properly tagged planes flying our skies. Right up until it isn't. He told me that this kind of scheme would require nothing but an airport and a hangar. Patience would be the virtue here. In a few years time, the plane is forgotten or whatever. Then it is scrubbed. Repainted. Retagged. And put to work doing legitimate flights all over the world. Until it isn't.... Maybe you know more about this plane, this part of the world and the way this would work. But your assumptions are that this pilot---a veteran pilot---trusted with a 777 is an idiot that cannot understand what it takes to disappear a plane in this part of the world when he flies there for a living...and has for years. Maybe he knows something. Maybe not...but he is a straight up guy with no political axe to grind...hes just telling me that the news is absolutely misguided and does not understand what they are talking about when they do bring it up. He says he is 100% certain of the things he tells me. Maybe he's wrong....I guess we will probably never know...or not.... dok |
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jonheck 23-Oct-14, 09:51 |
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jonheck 24-Oct-14, 04:15 |
deadofknight Experts! There are large numbers of experts involved in this event and I venture that a huge majority have extensive knowledge in specific areas well beyond the CEO of Emirates Airline and your pilot acquaintance. The current take of the cooperating nations and the majority opinion of commercial aviation represents the sum of that expertise. It is however apparent that some of the experts positions are biased on incomplete data. The process of developing alternate and or conspiracy theories is to dream up possible alternate events with the injection of numerous "maybe's", perhap's", and "Etc's"; discounting the true experts on sight or suggesting that they are all part of the cooperating nations attempt to cover up the truth or were in concert with the hijackers. I understand the draw for some, it's fun, like the UFO stuff, but it is not fact as suggested by many others and provides at best limited factual data for the purpose of arriving at a conclusion. Reasonable for the laymen, or experts who are not part of the investigating team, is to recognize that the on sight expert teams conclusions are the product of gallons of mid-nite oil, discussions, and conclusions. Their findings and the basis for them are presented to the media in layman's terms for obvious reasons, providing a opening for the conspiracy crowd who are quick to enlist the take of non involved experts frequently of the same conspiracy mind. Those who are inclined to mindlessly champion the numerous alternates and conspiracies are free to do so, but they should not expect and demand that the rational objectors to their conclusions to do much more than dismiss them off hand or at minimum regard them as unlikely. |
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DM and Zorro, extreme leftist liberals, write in long, run-on sentences and do not use paragraphs in order to break up thoughts into distinct coherent ideas. They spew one long sentence that rambles from thought to thought. Often times, they do not use punctuation. Zorro doesn't even capitalize words. It is easy to tell who is liberal and who is not simply by the readability of their writings. You don't even need to know what they say. It's as if they are so excited to spew some nonsense that they can't find the time to make it readable. DM once said that he wasn't interested in making it readable... he said that "we could suffer through it if we wanted to read his writings and he didn't care if we did". I asked him "why did he bother to write it if he didn't care if we read it?". |
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jonheck 24-Oct-14, 07:33 |
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jon Apply the lesson and I'll read what you have to say! |
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For example, they often times do not understand the difference between to, two, and too there, they're, and their affect, effect it's, its We're, Where, Were Your, You're Is this a symptom of our current education system, or is it a symptom of liberalism, or is it simply their lack of concern? I once saw DM tell an aspiring science major that "not to worry about these mistakes as English was changing and she could make these silly mistakes... it was no big deal- people could understand what she meant". I say those mistakes wouldn't help her much with grant applications, but he didn't care. LOL! |
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The one that we know is missing went off radar and the transponder was shut off. It is missing, ya know. Thats not a conspiracy theory. No evidence of anything except that it went missing has been stated. That and it is the first such plane to actually be untraceable. The only way of that to happen is to defeat the transponder which has redundancy built into it so that it will never fail if the plane is maintained. You may dismiss this if you want. It has nothing to do with liberals or conservatives. It has to do with Americans. The interesting thing to me is that my pilot friend has told me several times that when they parade experts on TV that talk about the plane he actually loses all faith in the news outlets because what they say is so inaccurate as it relates to how this plane actually functions in real life that it makes him wonder if all the experts we see spouting off 'conspiracies', as you say, are full of BS. He says that the mistakes they make when talking about this plane are not just minor details--its as if they have never actually piloted one or been trained to fly one. It blows his mind away. He also said that on his different routes around Asia--he flies for FedEx--there is only one place that a plane could disappear and that is where it was heading when they last noticed that it had turned around... Im not telling you this to rip on 0bama or to diminish liberals or whatever. Im telling you this because I find it remarkable that in this day and age that we sit around and accept that a 777 just disappeared because we are so in the dark about the reality of todays tracking systems and radar capabilities. YOU CANNOT LOSE A 777. PERIOD. Maybe this will help you. I hold no liberals responsible for its loss, yet. In fact, I think it is an A-politcal event. See--I don't care who's fault this is---I just think theres a problem. Ignore it if life is easier to live for you that way. Ostriches are notorious for such behavior. So are multiple personality folks---they create alternate personalities to cope. But you knew that... dok |
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jonheck 25-Oct-14, 04:21 |
deadofknight The evidence, and the analysis processes used buy a multitude of experts who are directly involved, for determining the flight path and proper search location has been made public, and it has been freely acknowledged that evidence is less that optimum. TV commentary on the aircraft's functions are for the enlightenment and entertainment of the general public and therefor are incomplete compared to the knowledge of those who fly them. Conclusion, no surprises there. I have acknowledged the possibility that the aircraft was stolen. I presume that there are near if not entirely capability process in place to identify that possibility if in time it proves to be true My suspicion is that that speculation is likely false and till then I am inclined to go along with the involved experts. |
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saintinsanity 25-Oct-14, 11:57 |
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You are not hijacking a plane...you are building an ICBM. And no expert is going to say that on TV or scare the hell out of the public...they are going to try to find the thing and disable it or stop those with it. But Im telling you right now...if I were in charge of the AQ network/ West Haters Club, Id be piecing together a way to not just match 9/11 but I would be trying to change the world--with a nuke. That I can deliver anywhere in the world. These people are patient. They are planners. They are evil. All I can say is that the plane didn't just vanish. And the location it vanished and those that were piloting it were not there by chance... This ends badly if we don't have a way to find it and destroy it...which may very well happen. dok |
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saintinsanity 28-Dec-14, 20:11 |
Well mobile.nytimes.com |
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saintinsanity 30-Dec-14, 06:32 |
m.firstpost.com |
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dok |
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Update: Listen carefully video.foxnews.com So, I mentioned this scenario a long time ago---and it appears to be holding water. Listen to what this airliner can do---non-stop. dok |
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jonheck 09-Mar-15, 07:03 |
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This makes a lot more sense to me than flying seven hours to kill yourself. |
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jonheck 09-Mar-15, 07:26 |
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Jon There's another theory that says Putin ordered it. I suppose one could build a "theory" to make that plane go just about anywhere within a 8,000 mile radius. Hm-mm? Maybe it landed in Softy's or Deado's back yard?? |
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jan / jon If you want to tell us that it is in the bottom of the ocean, why weren't the world (with all those resources and highly skilled people with equipment) able to locate ANY trace? |
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softy Because the Indian Ocean is very large, very deep, and quite un-charted. |
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jonheck 09-Mar-15, 10:53 |
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