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sixofspades
26-Apr-13, 10:08

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mistee
26-Apr-13, 12:19

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knightgator
26-Apr-13, 13:18

I agree with everything said,
but for me I try to avoid thinking to much(especially about what could have been), about what the other player is planning. I try and play aggressively to avoid my opponent being able to craft some great plan.

I tend to get out of book opening as soon as possible since that is where I feel I'm the weakest(due to laziness) since I don't study them. I basically look for what I feel is the best move, considering current and pending attacks, weak pawn structure.

If the unexpected works or looks like it will I'll travel that path.
tactical_abyss
26-Apr-13, 13:34

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baddeeds
26-Apr-13, 18:55

For me 80-90% of chess involves psychlogy. In most cases, it's not the actual move but rather my cognition that either makes me play well or not. For example, if I am really overwhelmed or all of a sudden have a sudden change in schedule, I lose concentration and don't think as hard. Therefore, I make careless mistakes that could and should have been avoided. Believe it or not, I have at least two annotations to show the significance of Psychology. One is about anger and the other is about getting nervous.
baddeeds
26-Apr-13, 18:56

The first example is shown in the annotation below. gameknot.com
baddeeds
26-Apr-13, 18:57

And, the second example is shown in the annotation below. gameknot.com
baddeeds
26-Apr-13, 19:00

In addition, I created a thread about the role Psychology plays in chess. That is shown in the link below. gameknot.com
tactical_abyss
27-Apr-13, 04:07

Yes,I agree with you 100% Jkarp on the role that emotions can play to interefere on your chess game like anger,depression,alarm,panic,frusturation and many other factors.But then other emotions like hope,interest,curiosity,pride,calm and contentment can help your game as well.Certain types of opponents that you come across however can find ways to manipulate you in subconscious ways that you may not even be aware of happening or think that you are "immune"to such tactics,just like the "moves"I mentioned above...but you could easily be fooling yourself!!So in essence,it could very well "be"the moves or opening of your opponent(and possibly even your own "moves")that can play an underlying key role in how your mind handles the quality of your play or the increased chance of your blunders as your game proceeds.

So as you said...in life,like a change of schedule or your if are overwhelmed by some outside the game influence,this can certainly affect your game.But on the flip side of the coin,there is "another"kind of psychology that can eat away at a player or affect a player even if you are in the best and most positive mode of thinking and NOTHING NEGATIVE is affecting you at all in your personal life outside of the game!!

And thats where I come in and my moves I described above come into play!Yes,the actual "moves"can affect a player psychologically,even if you are on top of the world Jkarp and not the slightest thing is influencing you in a negative way OUTSIDE of the game!!!See???So the psychology of the piece movements are on a higher plane of thought than simply explaining away a game loss due to your dog passing away the other day!Too many opponents can find it extremely easy to blame everything under the Sun for their bad game play or even "invent"excuses!But they are not always being truthful with themselves,indeed.

The key is finding ways to overcome those "thoughts"and negative emotions outside the board but equally as important,finding ways to understand a more solid way to increase your attention through proper positional strategy against a players ploys like a Sodium Attack or my "Wall"game above in that link I provided.

My advantage in chess,not only corresp games but OTB games is that I have extreme experience in "manipulation" chess strategies and I have a gift at understanding a players inner thoughts regarding their game play,better than they understand themselves!I research,for example a players past games...sometimes for MONTHS and study in detail every little conceivable little weakness or strength they have on the board BEFORE I decide to play against them or not.I also understand other things like how to move before,during or right after a time-out a player has or during the holiday season.Yes...there are hidden things beyond most players cognition that I am an expert at.

And my degree in Psychology does not hurt either!!

TA
tactical_abyss
27-Apr-13, 06:20

Let me add to my above post...
That there are "ways" to determine the course of action or style of game play against an opponent based upon certain "key"words that I can isolate in past forums strings on GK or other discovered chess sites when they are chatting about their own past game's.Even with the adjectives they display,that can direct me or give me a "formula" custom designed for their own demise on the chessboard.These things are on levels above many opponents and even if I explained them,it probably would not be understood by many.

I can go as far as saying that on some occasions I have been able to determine a theoretical "window"of opportunity during which times of the year some opponents are going to play a weaker game than other times!Some opponents(and i'm not going to mention names) tend to,shall I say by their own admittance,consume more alcohol during a specific holiday time.When you combine this "window"with other elements such as Tryptophan & high carb food snacks during the holiday,this can and does many times induce a more sleepy mode in that individual.
Thus,a more complex game injected as a ploy,perhaps a complex Anti-Meran,can have an advantage over an open type of game during the festive season!Hogwash?Think again!!

I can get into the super psychology like basing how an opponent may have weaker play based upon his geography!!!!!But then,this is so advanced,all I will get is probably laughs.For example...I can determine through combinations of what a player writes in the forums,his past games,the season of the year,his admitted or suspected alcohol intake and the town he lives in...how he may very well perform on the board!Geography you say?How?Well many small towns have nothing to do in them,they are boring towns!So what you say?Well,there is a much more increased probability of an opponent of mine drinking MORE in a town that is isolated and away from alot of activity as opposed to other towns that keep a player physically and mentally active in other forms.Think of the guy who is just sitting on his porch in the country,during the holiday and having nothing to do other than drink that 6 pack down and play some chess online.And alcohol is a depressant!Now combine this with Thanksgivng,tryptophan,a bit of depression and sleepyness and a town that I research by doing a SATELLITE study and zoom in on that house of his and town and other things in his town that I have discovered that DO NOT exist for recreational,educational,physical,arts and more....and ABRACADABRA...there is a definite increased theoretical probability of his game being diminished in quality play during this time and his geography combined!!!During these times the master can complicate things for this opponent using a series of ploys,conditional moves,deeper complex positions and more.

And you may be thinking..."Untrue,hogwash,ridiculous and i'll dare you talk about my country hick town like that"!

Think again!There IS truth in what I say,even if it just in isolated situations and I have proved it,I believe in atleast 20 cases over the past 10 years.Yes,where you live CAN affect your game in ways you never dreamed of!Its called"involuntary environmental conditioning".Or in some cases...voluntary!

You want to get deep into psychology?I just touched the surface!
tactical_abyss
08-May-13, 01:38

misty,knightgator and jkarp...
Yes,Psy is a big subject on the chess board.My examples below illustrate another kind of psychology.I'm not going to write a big post here 2 pages long like I do many times...i'll let you guys do the talking!But psy is always present in corresp chess and especially in OTB chess.I've seen games lost by the superior player/position many times,just on things that the other opponent is doing to stress out that player and it cannot be stopped.It could be a body motion,lotion,fast vs slow movements and a thousand other things.In corresp chess it could be someone that keeps asking for a draw and ends up finally getting one even though the player could have won.It could be a large amt of conditional moves that upset some players and other things.

But it can also be a "preconceived illusion" of game superiority in piece placement.For example,a player may "think"that his general strategy is correct and that he has made no error in calculation and analysis,but this may be inaccurate due to this players own "limits"of understanding his opponents superior psychological strategies and past abundant experiences in the first place.

The following unrated games I have played on GK to illustrate intense psychological strategy.I have played them on various sites over the years to "test"a players ability to "overcome" a subconscious nemesis that surfaces in a player when they are faced with something either highly unusual,odd,strange or out of opening book.Many,many of these same players have attested to the fact that they know about controlling the center of the board,they understand the dynamics of proper chess theory and a few other things...but do they really understand like they think they do???Many times more often not!

Take a look at any of these games below:

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Now the games in the above 2 links can be a psychological nightmare!Click on the first 10 moves of each link above.It appears that I am simply wasting moves,losing tempo,giving my opponent a super easy time of building up his forces against me.But am I ?Or am I seeking out the slightest weakness with my opponent,waiting for him patiently to overextend his resources?In reality,my openings in those first 2 links have very little weakness in them at all!Its an "illusion"!!!!It causes errors in opponents greedy offensive play.The first player above was over 1700 in rating and was not able to overcome his own nemesis!

Same with these 3 games below:

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Now click on the first 10 moves of the first 2 links above.What do you see?The strange and perhaps weak moves of someone who may appear to be just playing fun games or perhaps does not know what they are doing,right?Now,proper theory and positional strategy should be able to crush those lines on the 3rd rank of mine as white or the 6th rank of mine as black,but all these players failed.Well why?Was it simply because they have no idea how to counterattack that wall?Or is it something more sinister?Well,its a combination of both!When the chess player is suddenly confronted with the unusual or absurd,even if it is "weaker"in the formula of "proper"positional strategy opening moves,it can cause the opponents mind to blank out and faultier because he has been CONDITIONED to see various patterns in his mind(the chess pieces)that NOW take on nothing he has encountered before!!!

Same with that last link above and the sodium/hydrogen attack game of mine!
Notice those Knights of mine.Psychologically,my opponents misplace in their mind those edge Knights often because Knights in the opening are rarely placed in such positions!So what happens is that I "wait"for tactical weakness to come to me...and then I suddenly spring either one or both of those Knights forward into action,creating a sudden pin or ploy that comes as a sudden shock to my opponent!

So,psy is an issue in many flavors on the board.One must seek out those ploys and overcome them.Many players read tons of books on opening theory,strong opening lines and variations,do hundreds of tactical puzzles,but still lose when I place some of these simple"psy test"games in front of them!

TA
tactical_abyss
08-May-13, 03:05

And want to read about chess psychology on a very humorous level?

Get the book called..."Underhanded Chess" by Jerry Sohl.Came out in 1973.You can get used copies on Abe Books or Amazon or other online book stores for about 3 to 10 dollars depending upon condition.Really it is a must buy!

Description of book:

A HILARIOUS HANDBOOK OF DEVIOUS DIVERSIONS AND STRATAGEMS FOR WINNING AT CHESS

With tongue in cheek and laughter aforethought, Jerry Sohl takes his readers on a merry romp through all the deceits and tricks of one-upmanship as it is practiced in the game of chess. Drawing from his own experiences, he sets out in amusing detail a host of put-offs, come-ons, psychological maneuverings, lures, and frauds to accomplish checkmate.

The author's inventiveness is limitless. All kinds of ploys are carefully described: the amazing effectiveness of reverse polarity; adopting some of Bobby Fischer's tactics; the Freudian gambit; the Blencher; the Hassled Castle; befuddling rule fanatics; talking your way to victory; coffeehouse counter-gambits; when and how to lose; advanced duplicity; and chess of the last resort.
baddeeds
12-May-13, 18:27

I would love to read the handbook. Believe it or not, I have another example. And, this certainly was, as you put it, a, "Psychological nightmare", due to sudden changes in my schedule. It was a nightmare in this game, as well as, my job, to make a long story short. That is shown in the annotation below. gameknot.com
tactical_abyss
12-May-13, 18:59

Some of personal best games as white have begun with 1.b4
And some of my best black games have been 1.e4,g5

Why?Because the surprise value of these openings and opening defenses(if used sparingly)can be a very good surprise psychological weapon.Not many players are simply "prepared" for a Sokolsky Opening.Perhaps,I will get into these type of games in the near future,but for now,just some food for thought.Do I recommend these styles to study?Yes and no.Perhaps not for a beginner,but they should be studied and played as one progresses in their level of play to round out their repertoire of game play and experimentation.
tactical_abyss
13-May-13, 08:40

Jkarp,
Oh,and jkarp...

I totally understand what you are saying about work schedule changes and how that can affect ones game play.But I would classify that more under physiological stress,tension,mood and simply being way too tired to play your best!So,while perhaps "psychological"to some extent,thats not exactly the true level of deeper meaning here that i'm trying to stress.See,those things you mention,Jkarp are what is affecting a player due to HIS OWN personal work schedule changes and things in life,ect ect ect that may change his best game play.Hey,even a "high pollen count"day can make a player play worse!But these "issues"are either self inflicted or inflicted by the place you work or the weather.I'm writing in terms of the "psychological"methods that I EMPLOY against my opponent to make them lose,not what my opponent's personal issues in life make them defeat themselves!

I'm speaking of things that have absolutely NOTHING to do with work schedules,weather,sickness,shift changes or anything like that!I'm taking real chess game situations,real game play,style of play,irregular opening surprises,methods of seeing an opponents weakness's through past game losses due to tactical flaws in their Knight moves and a host of other things that can and will affect a player.....when they have absolutely no personal life issues,NO shift changes,NO work schedule changes,NOT being tired,NO medical problems and are at the absolute "PEAK" of these playing abilities WITHOUT ANY PERSONAL EXCUSES AT ALL.

So,its the advanced strategies on the board that really count,not how that player from Idaho lost because he went from first shift to third shift!Thats his problemo!See the difference?And that is what really counts,not winning or losing due to personal issue's at work or home.Knowing the true psychological methods to win against your opponent even when he is playing his best with no "excuses" like you mention,is the key to becoming better at the game.

TA
tactical_abyss
13-May-13, 08:49

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tactical_abyss
13-May-13, 09:07

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tactical_abyss
13-May-13, 09:11

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tactical_abyss
13-May-13, 09:28

Now,don't misunderstand me...
There is always the 'fun"things to do,like in the book "Underhanded Chess" whether it be a toy spider,heat lamps and comical things like that.But again,those are "tactics"employed by "me"and on an OTB basis.Corresp chess is different.So i'm primarily speaking of ways to defeat your opponent using different psychological strategies on the board through specific chess movements,not how I lost a game because my boss almost fired me today!Or won a game because my opponent wife had a baby that day and he could not think straight!So again,i'm not speaking of how my opponent has defeated himself in any personal life issues and goes on to lose a game due to those issues,but how "I"win using real time psychology against him on the board when he is feeling his BEST with no issues at all,no physical/mental/psychological/physiological not even on a microscopic level!

So in summary,its more important to note how I won a game by the psychological element of surprise as white moving 1.b4 instead of the regular 1.e4 or 1.d4 because my opponent has not much experience in playing the irregular........as opposed to winning because my opponent had a shift change at work!Hey,everyone has good and bad days!But unusual,psychological moves like 1.b4 can defeat your opponent even on his best day with NO personal excuses!And that my friend,is what really counts,not the pollen count in the air,not the work/shift schedule and not that new born baby!Not that babies are not important!But i'm speaking on a true chess value and learn level here,placing external forces on a separate plane of existence!
tactical_abyss
30-May-13, 07:36

Deleted by tactical_abyss on 30-May-13, 08:01.
tactical_abyss
30-May-13, 08:01

More psychological opponent tricks...
Just a quick tip on move delays in any corresp chess game.All chess players are entitled to take the full amt of time in any or all moves,this we all know and should accept this fact.But there are many,hidden reasons some players slow down during a game,beyond what they would admit to you,so this falls under the "psychology of chess".

Lets take the example,when you have captured a major piece of your opponent,or maybe two pawns or more and he has not captured back any of your pieces or if he has,you are still "up",say 2 or 3 points in piece value(or more) and the game looks a bit grim for your opponent....not necessarily that he is in a mating net,but it still looks pretty much curtains for your opponent...but it still may take a huge amount of time and moves to get you to mate him.Now,have you noticed on occasions at that moment in time where you captured his piece,he suddenly not only slows down,but slows down to a point where he NOW is taking practically the full amount of time,maybe down to the last few hours or last few minutes before he would time-out in all of his next moves...then 45 minutes before he would time out...suddenly his green light comes on and he moves?And prior to your capture of his piece(s)he was moving like lightning or atleast very fast?

Yes,I heard all the stories..."well,he needs more time to think now" to find ways to escape or win now,or possibly draw,ect ect"Yes,this can be true,but do you know that alot of those reasonings that you just assume are the sudden reason for his slow down are total HOGWASH?????
He does not suddenly need the full 3 days or 5 days to make any move(even being down in material) when infact he was moving like very fast(say average move time a few hours)and now,is moving once every 3 to 5 days into the last few minutes or so?There is many times "psychology"NOW being employed against you in cases like this!

His intent is to try and wear down your "patience".Many corresp players understand the parameters of any players right to take the full amount of time in any move,but within yourself,you like others,may really be very "impatient"and want to get the game over as soon as possible.So this is what happens many times:The game is INTENTIONALLY stalled by your opponent,especially in positional circumstances where he knows he will more than likely lose,but its going to take you a ton more moves to do it.He actually "knows"his next move and has known it for days,but writes it down somewhere,and plugs the move in,at either the last moment or after days.His hidden "psychology"then is to try and see if you will either agree to a draw by him later asking,or hoping YOU eventually will request a draw,with the game "suddenly"taking extra extra long to finish!See?And yes,many players fall for this ploy,especially when your opponent combines sudden time-outs,vacation,ect ect!Its HOGWASH many times that your opponent suddenly "needs"all this extra time to move!!!I repeat...hogwash!Now,this is the "unwritten"or not admitted truth with many players that suddenly slow down is some game cases.Certainly not all,but many of your opponents....atleast on the "medium or higher levels of play".

Sometimes you can observe this by keeping tabs on your opponents other ongoing games and see if he has slowed down to a snails pace in the other games or not with and without piece captures.This tells a story within itself!

So don't fall for the "hopeful"draw routine psychology.And do not fall for that common "excuse"that its because your opponent suddenly needs 3 days to think his way out of his blunder game when he was taking an hour to move in all his other moves!Its a fact that,he already knows his move and has totally thought out his next move(including all variable moves),but intentionally WAITS to send it to you!!!

No,there is nothing to do about it,but i'm mentioning this so that you do NOT become so impatient that you decide to agree to a draw on move #90 because the game is going to spill over into the summer and take forever to finish.Again,your opponent is using psychology against you and you may not even realize it!So when he does this to you,just concentrate on finding ways to mate him as quickly as possible...but then it may not be possible to mate him quicker and may take to move 150!Well,so what?Don't agree to that draw unless you are positively certain its a draw.I have seen many players throw in a draw towel that could have won a game,but they fell for the old stall psy game being a bit impatient!

Let me also add,that some impatient players want the game to finish even faster now,with their opponent slowing down like a crippled snail,so you may actually end up making a blunder when you speed up beyond your normal average move time.Or you may end up timing-out if you,(the winning player) have a history of time-outs!And that is what he "hopes"for!So,the intentional delay moves of your opponent has succeeded!Don't become a victim of his "hidden"non admitted psychology that he is using against you!

Yes,there are many good and justifiable reasons for your opponent to suddenly slow down.But then their can also be more "sinister"reasons for the slow down.Will your opponent ever admit this?99 out of a 100 times...no.

TA sees though these opponents very easily.Train and discipline yourself for this chess behavior from your opponent and always be several planes above him saying to yourself...
"naughty child"i'll, have to teach you a lesson,where my belt?
tactical_abyss
30-May-13, 08:26

Let me add to my post above...

Have you ever seen a player suddenly take a postponement right when you took his Knight for example?Another psy strategy.What he does many times is continue to move in many of the other games during his postponement..but NOT yours!Yes,he runs the risk of someone cancelling his postponement,but then if he moves fast enough in say,4 out of the 5 games,then their is a higher probability that none of those 4 out of the 5 opponents will end up cancelling his time-out.But then,that leaves you.You have seen that no one else cancelled his time-out,so are you going to be the "rude"one that cancels his so called "needed"time-out?Many times players are afraid to do this for fear of getting a return message or for being the only one who did this "crime"to the player who took this vacation time-out!

Don't fall for this ploy!Your opponent is ALSO hoping to prey on your kind,good and ethical heart and not cancel his postponement.This stall tactic combined with his snail like moves in the rest of his pre and post postponements can cause you to agree to things you normally would not agree to...like a draw or put you on the defensive if you do cancel his postponement.Cancel it immediately!!!!Use reverse psychology and show him its now time for HIM to resign and resign now and early!!!!!!!!Be firm.
tactical_abyss
16-Jun-13, 06:57

Deleted by tactical_abyss on 16-Jun-13, 07:19.
tactical_abyss
16-Jun-13, 07:18

Another blitz hothead(mjjmaniac)....
I will classify this opponent as a hothead and label him under my usual triumphal and successful psychological ploys.He is new to GK,so I will not complain to GK like I could and perhaps have him suspended or ejected off of the site.I played 2 games against this opponent with his new 1200 rating,so he was an "unknown"as to his true strength.I sacrificed my Queen in both 5 min games on my usual move #3 and he lost BOTH games as white and black.I'd estimate his strength of around,perhaps 1400-1500 or so,but i'm not sure after only 2 games.

In any case,like a sporadic few other blitz opponents,when I sac my Queen,its perfectly ok.BUT if THEY lose to my Queen sac,then its a whole different ballgame!Some players are amazed,some ask if I am a beginner,some call me a fool(and then go on to lose)or in mjjmaniac's case he wrote....

eres un ca, intentando simular que eres un mal jugador. Demuestras ser un payaso

I had to erase some words that were swear words like the third word above which I minimized to 2 letters.So its translates hilariously to:

"you're an as*****, trying to pretend you're a bad player. Prove to be a clown".

Ha,ha...the swear words can get this player in trouble if I write all the info down,date,time,board,what he wrote ect ect.,then send in the info to GK.But lucky for him,I won't do that,I will be merciful THIS time!Hopefully he will read my post and learn.

So lets see...i'm an as***** for sacing my Queen,a clown and I pretend to be a bad player.

No,I do not "pretend"anything.I openly have shown my Q sacs and my rating proves that I am not "pretending".This player should look above the board to see my rating in the blitz room.Next,i'm a proven clown according to him.Wrong again.I never "clown around" in blitz,but i'm as serious as a piece of cold steel.One has to be serious in any sacrifice game whether it be sacing my Q or my Knight,to then comeback and win the game takes concentration,not "clowning"around.As to me being an..."as*****"......thats always a funny comeback directed towards me on occasion and again falls under the "psychology"category.

So,time for my "psychoanalysis"of this blitz patient!

What this opponent is really saying subconsciously(mjjmaniac)is that HE is really the "as*****"for losing to my Q sac games and his losses are due to my clowning around and pretending that I am a bad player.But in order to get "back"at me somehow,he has to blurt out anything he can to minimize his losses to me and make himself "feel better" by attempting to make me feel like its a "lowly" hollow win!Ahhhhh...no.This does not work against TA!The wins were solid and beautiful and not hollow.See,players like mjjmaniac must come to realize that they have limitations on their playing abilities and strength and being up in material will never guarantee a win unless you have mastered chess theory and tactics a bit more,especially in 3 to 5 min blitz.

So,as I said many times before,if I sac my Q in a blitz game and you end up still losing the game,what does that make my opponent if he calls me an "as*****?????It makes,in THAT CASE my opponent the "clown",the beginner who needs to improve and the true "as*****"for trying to intimidate me and then risking being thrown off of the site,since swear words are against the rules.

Q sacs are really a good lesson to teach opponents of their vulnerabilities.And unfortunately when some players vulnerabilities are exposed on the chess board in cases where they feel they "must win" and they end up losing instead.....they crack under the pressure and throw knives back at the winner.

Again,I love chess psychology.It brings out the best and the worse in some opponents.I'm such a fiend for causing that player to lose!I'm so terrible for "pretending".I'm such an "idiot"for sacing my Queen and an "as*****" for doing such retarded things!

These players should look very "deep"within themselves,before trying to strike back at a well seasoned player like me and even attempt to intimidate.For they will fail.In summary,players like mjjmaniac should really try to learn from their chess mistakes and be less overconfident in their abilities to defeat a player simply because they have a Queen in their hands.

For in my case,the Queen I give you,whether your 1200 or 2000 rated will most probably be laced with concentrated poison!That my friends is not classified under "clowning around".

Welcome to GK mjjmaniac!

Psychology session over!I accept charge cards,thank you!

TA



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