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isityoustand But in your defense, women did line up to marry Ted Bundy while he was on death row. So we can't expect everyone to be in touch with reality. |
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Oh my dear you still have Netflix |
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pawntificator 28-Apr-20, 07:27 |
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if you wrote John's Hopkins and questioned the Data. They may get back to you. Especially if you have data compiled from your own medical comprehensive investigations of this problem.there are times in life when a guy feeling can save your life, but this isn't one of those times. |
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isityoustand Just so you know, medicine for the lungs is typically "inhaled" and the most common form other than inhalation is pill form, which is "imbibed" "swallowed' or "injested'. If you use a suppository. It is"inserted'. Words matter and one would think that a man who has "the best words" would be accurate in his comments. inject verb Save Word To save this word, you'll need to log in. in·ject | \ in-ˈjekt \ injected; injecting; injects Definition of inject transitive verb 1a: to introduce into something forcefully inject fuel into an engine b: to force a fluid into (as for medical purposes) inject a drug into the bloodstream 2: to introduce as an element or factor in or into some situation or subject condemning any attempt to inject religious bigotry into the campaign — Current Biography www.merriam-webster.com But all of this is a moot point! Why? Because The president of the United States of America. Who is a stable Genius and has the best words and knows pandemics better than anyone. After months of this virus perhaps Trump SHOULDN'T BE BRAIN STORMING on national television asking questions in a convoluted and meaningless way. or asking questions or national television in front of all of America that he doesn't know the answers to. He wanted to appear as if he's doing something or investigating something it's all about appearances what signals he's sending. And like I said before don't tell me what he meant to say I got the words from the man himself If he can't speak for himself and get his point across in a clear and concise manner then he doesn't need to be president I don't need an interpreter I don't need to listen to a Trump whisperer. Sorry but that's reality. |
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You probably don't know about the UV therapy that is available. You inject a UV catheter into the breathing tubes of patients who have been intubated. The UV light is harmful to bacteria and viruses. The light is injected right into the lungs through the tube. You probably don't know that Twitter has banned the account of the company who is developing this innovative experimental treatment technology. |
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pawntifex and I didn't see anything wrong with what he said. The medical industry is so lame in this country that it seems like they want the people to stay sick. A solution of 15 parts per million of nano-silver will kill pathogens. The reason is that pathogens generally have weaker cell membranes compared to human cells, and the electrical charge of the silver molecule is enough to destabilize the pathogen cell membrane. In minute doses it is harmless to humans, and it can be inhaled and taken orally. But if you say that, the brainwashed masses will break out into hysteria, lockstepped with the powers that be, parroting put that it's a stupid idea. Why? Because big pharma can't patent silver solution and make $billions from it. Why do they put silver cream on burn victims? To prevent infection. Why do we have silverware? Where did the saying "born with a silver spoon in the mouth" come from? Prevention during epidemics. Why did people throw silver coins in "wishing wells"? Trump was on to something... Brainstorming has produced some of the greatest inovations. |
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isityoustand It's ok neither has the president. |
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Trump has a dozen people looking deeply into it and reporting back to him. What is it that you think is happening here? |
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Saving Lives I say that to all my dates. |
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A lot more than a dozen. More like 20+ leaders of different departments of people who are looking into it for him. |
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Lung Medicine Actually, I think the most common lung medicines are inhaled, through inhalers. And the purpose is to open up the alveoli, or to relax the bronchial tubes, or something of that nature. I have never heard of any lung medication that was injected, and the notion of injecting the lungs with disinfectant is simply ludicrous, as is shining a bigly light into them (for other than examination). Treating a virus with UV light? That is la la land stuff. What is UV penetration? I looked it up, and it is about 6/1000ths of an inch. A human hair is 4/1000ths of an inch. So UV penetrates just over the thickness of that. Bright lung lights would degrade infected cell walls, releasing more virus into the lungs. So infected cells might be killed, but you would probably have to continue treatment over much of the course of the infection--and at that you're topically treating a tiny fraction of lung tissue. Really, we are treating a sarcastically stupid prank (the president' own description) as some viable treatment? We're discussing this only because the president's vapid stupidity is being defended by his adoring fan base. It is crazy! How about defending Finland raking its forests? What defense is there for California diverting rivers into the Pacific? Or aerial tanker bombardment of 800-year-old burning French cathedrals? How about "Noble" prizes awarded to journalists for their "Russia Russia Russia" coverage? Or wheels are older than walls? Windmills cause cancer? Did Revolutionary War heroes ram the ramparts and secure the airports? Question: What do you get when you nuke a hurricane? Answer: A radioactive hurricane. When Trump asks a question, why it is always abysmally ignorant? Why doesn't he ever asks semi intelligent questions? I mean--for a stable genius--you would think he could PRETEND not to be so ignorant. There are 195 countries on Planet Earth. Rank the intelligence of the leaders of each, and the US comes in dead last. The contest isn't even close. Pit Trump against any world leader on ANY test--he will lose. I mean--he wouldn't even win of the questions were rigged, "name President Trump's children." It's Tiffany, Donald. TIFFANY. |
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LOL Right. Like he vets his appointees? "Trump says media is part of vetting his nominees: 'We save a lot of money that way'" thehill.com |
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pawntifex youtu.be |
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the world are using IV megadoses of Vitamin C and they are curing the virus. Naturally, hysteria will result from this post, as I mentioned in the last one. Of course our resident medical experts will try their best to trash this claim - are they on the big pharma payroll? - but I know from first hand experience it works. |
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"Part of..." Trump doesn't vet anything. Whatever random misinformation he falls privy to comes spilling out of his mouth unfiltered. His belief the DNC servers were in Ukraine? Complete idiocy! www.theatlantic.com In the words of Rex Tillerson, the man is a fun king moron, or something very similar to that. |
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False the world are using IV megadoses of Vitamin C and they are curing the virus.>> No, this is simply not true. Any more than it is true that hydroxychloroquine cures the viral infection. What does ascorbic acid injections do? It breaks down into hydrogen peroxide, where the peroxide (supposedly) preferentially attacks virus weakened cells. There are quack treatments using H2O2, but these are not approved in the United States and medical professionals elsewhere are not using this as any standard treatment. The good news is that ascorbic acid injections are less dangerous than lung disinfectant injections. In kind of the same way Russian Roulette with five empty chambers is safer than Russian Roulette with three empty chambers. |
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Big Pharma Responds: I've heard that high-dose vitamin C is being used to treat patients with COVID-19. Does it work? And should I take vitamin C to prevent infection with the COVID-19 virus? Some critically ill patients with COVID-19 have been treated with high doses of intravenous (IV) vitamin C in the hope that it will hasten recovery. However, there is no clear or convincing scientific evidence that it works for COVID-19 infections, and it is not a standard part of treatment for this new infection. A study is underway in China to determine if this treatment is useful for patients with severe COVID-19; results are expected in the fall. End Quote www.health.harvard.edu China does waste more time on quack remedies, like acupuncture and so on, than most other developed nations. They have a lot of people on which they can more freely experiment--though heaven help them if they try human gene manipulation. |
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His belief the DNC servers were in Ukraine? Complete idiocy! |
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"The idea that high-dose IV vitamin C might help in overwhelming infections is not new. A 2017 study found that high-dose IV vitamin C treatment (along with thiamine and corticosteroids) appeared to prevent deaths among people with sepsis, a form of overwhelming infection causing dangerously low blood pressure and organ failure. Another study published last year assessed the effect of high-dose vitamin C infusions among patients with severe infections who had sepsis and acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), in which the lungs fill with fluid. While the study's main measures of improvement did not improve within the first four days of vitamin C therapy, there was a lower death rate at 28 days among treated patients. Though neither of these studies looked at vitamin C use in patients with COVID-19, the vitamin therapy was specifically given for sepsis and ARDS, and these are the most common conditions leading to intensive care unit admission, ventilator support, or death among those with severe COVID-19 infections." There is a sweet spot where the dose of vitamin C changes from an antioxidant into an oxidant, peroxide. This is somewhere around 10g, depending on body weight. From Shiva's link: "At day 28, mortality was 46.3% (38/82) in the placebo group vs 29.8% (25/84) in the vitamin C group" From "Another study published..." Keep in mind, these test subjects were very ill and required ventilators. From Shiva's same link: "Hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine have been shown to kill the COVID-19 virus in the laboratory dish. The drugs appear to work through two mechanisms. First, they make it harder for the virus to attach itself to the cell, inhibiting the virus from entering the cell and multiplying within it. Second, if the virus does manage to get inside the cell, the drugs kill it before it can multiply." Yes, some people have taken the drug and died - this is why doctors need to supervise it's administration. QT prolongation appears to be the issue in the heart. If the drug is that dangerous, why is the CDC telling people to take it when traveling? So I stand by my statement that Shiva is not being 100% truthful. |
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Lord_Shiva is Right, and Facts Matter! It clearly states: "there is no clear or convincing scientific evidence that it works for COVID-19 infections, and it is not a standard part of treatment for this new infection." I have read the same thing in MANY scientific articles that are on this topic. Please post scientific evidence from LEGITIMATE news and medical sources to back up your claim that it is effective for Covid-19. Please do not cite crappy videos on YouTube that look like they were made by a guy living in his mother's basement wearing a tin-foil hat, and not ads from shysters trying to sell high doses of vitamin C to very gullible people--the supplement industry is notoriously corrupt, making statements without scientific data to back up their claims. Also, the CDC does NOT recommend hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for Covid-19. It is for MALARIA! www.cdc.gov. I think this is the same publication you posted; did you not notice that it was for malaria??? Something safe for malaria patients is not necessarily safe for other disease. It has been proven to cause deaths for Covid-19 patients. On Covid-19 treatment options, the CDC states "There are no drugs or other therapeutics presently approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to prevent or treat COVID-19. Current clinical management includes infection prevention and control measures and supportive care, including supplemental oxygen and mechanical ventilatory support when indicated." www.cdc.gov. This publication was posted on April 25, 2020, so it is pretty current information. FACTS MATTER, damn it! |
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because they basically own the mass media with advertisement money. They also set the fee schedules for their new drug releases. Lipitor is a great example - big Pharma paid millions on fee schedules, they in turn made $5 billion in one year, and many people died or were injured. Viox is another one. My money is on the independent researchers on YouTube; they don't have multimillion dollar motivations to ill advise us. |
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