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lord_shiva 20-Apr-20, 14:36	C2H5OH Take C12H22O11 (maltose). Feed it to yeast. The result is C2H5 with a hydroxyl (OH) attached to one end, and CO2 vented. These beautiful little eukaryotic fungi work wonders for our species. Without them we would have no leavened bread, beer, or wine. "A little leaven soon leaveneth the whole lump."
shirlmygirl 20-Apr-20, 14:57	That is a very true scripture, lord_shiva, but it is meant in a derogatory sense. A bad example or thing (leaven) spreads through the entire group. The Corona virus is a good example of that. I have wasted enough time on you today.
lord_shiva 20-Apr-20, 15:13	LOL Never a waste, always a delight, Shirlmygirl. At least on my end. I'm mildly disappointed our wonderful exchanges are a waste of time in your view. Yes indeed, the corona virus is an excellent example. I wondered where I had gotten that expression, and am pleased you reminded me it DID originate with the good book. I've always said it, "a little levity soon leaveneth the whole lump," and I couldn't remember why I thought that was funny.
lord_shiva 20-Apr-20, 20:32	It is Just a Molecule There is nothing all that special about alcohol. But we use it to celebrate special occasions, or for medicinal purposes, or sometimes just to relax. The proper way to drink it is to sip it, whether beer, wine, or scotch. Shots and chugging beer is a really big mistake. If the beer is not good, why are you drinking it? If it is good, nurse it and make it last. NEVER chug hard alcohol. The reason is that if your body does not disgorge the alcohol, it can kill you. People say see, this proves booze is poison. Is water poison? Because ou can die fom drinking too much water too. Make something taboo and you create an allure. Whatver is forbidden becomes desirable.
shirlmygirl 20-Apr-20, 21:56	You are absolutely correct in your last sentence, Lord-Shiva, and that definitely includes SIN.
pawntificator 20-Apr-20, 22:27	Just keep adding numerals and letters on and that will distract you from the real danger. Not CH2F7E732DVCO2, but CO2. The more letters and numbers the worse it is. Unless it's CO2. Then you are ******
sad_but_true 21-Apr-20, 03:02	haha .. its always about the distractions. kinda like life at the moment
lord_shiva 21-Apr-20, 11:15	CO2 We have nothing to fear from CO2 vented by yeast. The reason is that the source of their carbon is barley fields, which draw THEIR carbon out of the atmosphere. So aside from what little fuel is spent harvesting the barley, it is all cyclical. And that fuel alone is an amount the Earth can most likely absorb. It seems to do fine with the hundred million tons of CO2 belched forth by Earth's volcanoes every year. Most of THAT was cycled through Earth's crust via plate margin subduction millions of years ago. No, the real CO2 issue is the seven billion tons of coal and 3 billion tons of oil mined every year. That carbon source is somewhat novel--having been sequestered primarily in Carboniferous (Pennsylvanian and Mississippian) deposits several hundred million years ago. THAT adds up close to 40 billion NEW tons of CO2 each and every single year. If we did that one year, or two years, Earth would eventually absorb the blip. Instead, we've been doing it year after year for decades. Across ten years that is 400 billion tons of additional atmospheric carbon dioxide. In the past 40 years (since we first realized this was a legitimate issue impacting global climate) we have poured 1.6 TRILLION tons of CO2 into the air. Now THAT is a lot. And we have measured the global impact of it. We are changing the climate faster than it ever changed since the KT impact that wiped out the dinosaurs. We're facing a similar global extinction event.
shirlmygirl 22-Apr-20, 14:30	LORD_SHIVA Your quote: "I wondered where I had gotten that expression, and am pleased you reminded me it DID originate with the good book. I've always said it, "a little levity soon leaveneth the whole lump," and I couldn't remember why I thought that was funny." The reason you thought the above expression was funny is because you used the wrong word in the remark. Perhaps it was accidental or, knowing you, perhaps it was deliberate. You said "levity" in your remark above instead of leaven. Levity means, according to my dictionary, "a humorous attitude, especially toward matters which should be treated with RESPECT". Also, it came to my mind after our previous discussion, that on sacred occasions, especially The Passover feast, God had told the people it was to be celebrated with "unleavened" bread, and that leaven was to be cleaned out of their residences for seven days. Exodus, chapter 12, verses 16-20 NKJV - The Passover, a memorial of redemption.
lord_shiva 22-Apr-20, 18:28	Sober Thought So the Jews do not celebrate the Passover with wine, or has enough of he year died to make that ok? The Passover is a somber affair, isn't it? Very unlike a wedding. I have never been to a Jewish wedding where only grape juice was served. Just saying.
shirlmygirl 22-Apr-20, 19:13	God changeth not, but people do.

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