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winslowhightower 25-Jan-18, 22:30	I took one last moment to look back. I was definitely tricked by janheckman's intermittent comments. I thought I was talking to you. I didn't realize I had another person talking to me right away.
mo-oneandmore 25-Jan-18, 22:31	stalh Do you see how quickly winslow changed the subject back to Comey?
stalhandske 25-Jan-18, 22:31	Still not answering my point! Blame it all on Jan?
mo-oneandmore 25-Jan-18, 22:33	stalh Sure. Why not? I'm used to it.   Mo
winslowhightower 25-Jan-18, 22:33	I agree I want to stay on topic and discuss one point at a time. Look at the time stamps in this thread. janheckman has been replying to me and typing "winslow" in the subject line just like you. I thought I was only talking to you for a moment. I'll pay closer attention from now on. Comey is going down, tomorrow. Have a nice day, or sleep well, whoever you are reading this right now.
winslowhightower 25-Jan-18, 22:35	Wait, is it Comey or not? I can't answer you both at the same time. And frankly, I can't answer either of you any more tonight. See if you can decide which issue you want me to clarify in this grand conspiracy. Take a vote between you two. Or everyone in the club. Whichever way works best. Tomorrow I will give you all the information I have about that particular issue.
mo-oneandmore 25-Jan-18, 22:35	Thank's for you're co-operation here, winslow
mo-oneandmore 25-Jan-18, 22:38	winslow Thank's for all the valued proof about your Comey/trump conspiracy theory. Don't forget to review your data with that robot and I'll sleep on it..
lord_shiva 26-Jan-18, 00:30	Comey "Comey chose no crime." With regards to Hillary, no person in their right mind would have sought to prosecute her for mishandling a handful of emails state had initially declassified. Comey was not the only one--no one in his office thought there were charges that could be pursued. But listen to DG's defense spin into high gear protecting 😿 from prosecution over conspiracy to commit treason with the Russians, obstruction of justice and violations of campaign laws via paying the porn star to keep quiet.
dmaestro 26-Jan-18, 07:44	www.google.com There was no FBI “secret society” conspiracy. What we have is rampant conspiracy generation as a diversion because nobody knows how the Trump investigation will end. That Trump tried to fire Mueller isn’t helping him.
dmaestro 26-Jan-18, 08:54	www.google.com The FBI isn’t perfect but the pattern of attacks on the FBI are mostly partisan. Regarding Comey there was not a strong enough case to warrant prosecution unless there was some smoking gun regarding intent. You don’t overturn campaigns over such matters. I think Comey did the right thing.
the-sigularity 26-Jan-18, 09:57	to trump supporters James Comey, Sessions, and Robert Mueller are republicans. He fired Comey, and is trying to discredit Mueller. If you trump lovers think that he loves you, and he fires one of his closest buddies, threatens another by telling him to resign, and is criticizing his own FBI chief investigator for accusing him of doing a bad job. Do you all think he loves you back??? He has shown his true colors. trump loves trump. The future will eventually reveal the truth. he is a business man that will shake your right hand and you had better watch the other. A lot of contractors that did work for him were also given a handshake, and after their work was finished, they found out that his handshake was something they should not have done, because trump refused to pay them for the jobs, with the excuse that they did not do a good job. I did not make this up, it has been reported over and over again, he is still in paying his lawyers to keep from paying the contractors. (Yes, he pays his lawyers, but guess what happens if they lose a case) Do you trust a person that does not keep his word? hand if he ever does.
softaire 26-Jan-18, 11:56	Stalh I will be looking forward to seeing what Winslow comes up with once you can decide on which particular subject you'd like to discuss. Winslow is about the best there is at finding relevant information on these very interesting topics. (He's even better than DM at finding relevant information although not as prolific). I have to say that I found your last go around with him particularly boring and tedious. You kept on accusing him of not staying on topic and you simply wouldn't let up. And, you wouldn't answer his question about which particular topic he should address. That seemed pretty petty and mundane. I hope you will answer the question so we can see what new infoormation he has. I for one am very interested. Maybe you are not? Now, it is NOT unusual here in these threads for the topic to veer off in other directions. Why would it matter here in this case anyway?
stalhandske 26-Jan-18, 12:10	softaire <I have to say that I found your last go around with him particularly boring and tedious. You kept on accusing him of not staying on topic and you simply wouldn't let up. And, you wouldn't answer his question about which particular topic he should address. That seemed pretty petty and mundane. I hope you will answer the question so we can see what new infoormation he has.> That is a very unfair accusation and in complete contrast with the actual events. If you comment on those, I wish that you would minimally read all relevant info first before such a low assessment. Please, at least keep to fact. The discussion started with Comey (and the stuff related to that), but suddenly Winslow moved to President Trump's son, which I quite in line with discussion procedures suggested that was a different topic.
softaire 26-Jan-18, 12:13	Easy There are many people who do not like Trump. He isn't exactly the articulate, clean-living image of what we want our Presidents to be. He is public about his statements and not very Politically Correct in his attitudes and sayings. And, he is not afraid to insult, offend, or humiliate opponents. THAT is quite different than we are used to. I think the American public (for a large number of them) is happy to have a politician who speaks his mind and who does what he says he will do. We have NOT had that for many years from either party. Better yet is that he is being successful, despite the massive opposition being presented by most of the media and the establishment politicians. For example: The stock market has been hitting all-time highs since he was elected. The GDP of the U.S. is climbing and may well hit 4% this year vs. the sub 2% avg. of Obama's. Millions of U.S. workers are getting LARGE Bonuses and pay raises. Companies are bringing their overseas money backto the U.S. The minimum wage is going up voluntarily in many companies. Unemployment is WAY DOWN. Black unemployment is at an all time low. Home ownership is going back up. We are on the verge of resolving the DACA problem. And, we are on the verge of improving our broken immigration system. North Korea and South Korea are talking and collaborating. (wonder why?) ISIS has been decimated. These are all GOOD things. You can't argue with success that results in good things.
dmaestro 26-Jan-18, 12:14	Softaiek. That’s inaccurate. Anyone can find these conspiracies all over the right wing websites. The problem is the sources are unreliable. I didn’t realize until recently how much of that kool aid you were actually drinking; that you were serious and not just gullible. You do no fact checking. Your motto seems to be if it feels right believe it. The bigger the conspiracy the better. That’s why you need to break issues down into rebuttable pieces. It’s not unreasonable to ask.
softaire 26-Jan-18, 12:15	Stalh I did read the posts. That is why I said they were tedious and boring. Now that I've registered my complaint, I just hope we can move on to something more interesting.
stalhandske 26-Jan-18, 12:19	softaire I fail to see what was so boring to you. Your complaint is not worth anything because it is not based on fact, and only due to a clear wish to argue. Show me the fact, and I will change my opinion. Things just don't move on because you happen to say so!
dmaestro 26-Jan-18, 12:28	www.yahoo.com Iik The evidence of Russian interference didn’t come from tapping Trump. The “secret society” was a joke. The “memo” is partisan hype. The burden of proof is on you.
softaire 26-Jan-18, 12:33	Stalh Once again you are forced to get in that last word. And, my complaint is not worth anything. Ok... fine. This conversation is here for everyone to see and judge for themself. Please reply something now... just so you get the final word!
dmaestro 26-Jan-18, 13:03	Be specific Softaire. Frankly you are just throwing stuff hoping it sticks because you WANT it to be true not because you have solid evidence. And then when challenged you divert to a propaganda sheet of all the great things you claim Trump did. That is what is boring. It’s a cult mentality. So which conspiracy do you want to start with?
the-sigularity 26-Jan-18, 13:10	softy You give trump credit for a lot of things that are happening. If you are happy with that, I am happy for you, but please do not expect anyone to believe you, if you say the world is round because that is the way trump wants it to be. If you stop to think about it, giving him credit for every good thing that happens, does not leave anything for me. Give me a chance, the next time something good happens, remember me. BTW, just because Ju Tu minchew, or whatever his name is wants his NK country to play games does not mean trump had something to do with that. Sorry to burst your bubble. That NK leader is using that ploy to his advantage, not for America, which he hates.
dmaestro 26-Jan-18, 13:30	www.ecowatch.com Trump’s “accomplishments” are partisan and ripping the country apart.
lord_shiva 26-Jan-18, 14:44	GDP "The stock market has been hitting all-time highs since he was elected. The GDP of the U.S. is climbing and may well hit 4% this year vs. the sub 2% avg. of Obama's." Ok, let's brush off some facts. 2009: -2.8% whose fault was this? 2010: 2.5% incredible recovery! 2011: 1.6% 2012: 2.2% 2013: 1.7% 2014: 2.6% 2015: 2.9% 2016: 1.5% 2017: 2.6% --again, most of 2017 was under Obama's economic policies. That average is hardly sub 2.0%, even if we leave off the last year. Hardly fair to credit Obama with 2009, given the direction he inherited. The real problem with Groper is that he does what he says he is going to do only when that is worse than doing nothing. When does he actually do anything good? When he is insulting foreign countries, arguing with or pushing around foreign leaders, catering to despots, praising Putin and Duterte, etc? If 😿 wants credit for 2017, it seems rather lackluster. Despite corporations being free to pollute without consequence, the elimination of safety regulations and basic consumer protections, he still didn't best Obama's solid 2.9% in 2015. What gives? The 1.5% gain in 2016 was largely the result of market fears over 😿 prevailing, and the chaos expected to ensue. Market all time highs--the market had seven solid years of gains with Obama. The bull market is 105 months old, of which 😿 may lay claim to 11 (so far). Whoop-de-do, Uncle Pennybags!
winslowhightower 26-Jan-18, 14:54	Ahh, what a great day at work! I got to spend 600 dollars at Lowe's today with the company credit card! So that was fun. Now, on to James Comey's assessment of the Hillary Clinton email investigation. I was going to do a whole report on everything, but I doubt anyone would engage with that and I'm not trying to waste my time, so I'll start with one point and see how it goes. A little background: Hillary served as US Secretary of State from 2009 to 2013. Also in 2009, the State Department was beginning to implement its SMART (State Messaging and Archive Retrieval Toolkit) records management system. The private email was discovered as a result of the investigation into the mishandling of the Benghazi tragedy. In March 2015, NARA first learned from a New York Times reporter that Secretary of State Clinton had used a private email account to conduct official business www.archives.gov Politico also reported on it here: www.politico.com Comey announced in his testimony that the FBI began an investigation into the Clinton Email Server on July 24, 2015. The investigation concluded on July 5th 2016, when Comey announced that no reasonable prosecutor would bring charges against Clinton. That about sums up the basics. So, the first point is this: Who is responsible for deciding whether or not a person should be prosecuted? Is it the FBI Director, or the Attorney General? FBI en.wikipedia.org Attorney General legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com
mo-oneandmore 26-Jan-18, 15:07	winslow "Now, on to James Comey's assessment of the Hillary Clinton email investigation." More or less all true and easily found on the Internet, but so what? "the investigation into the mishandling of the Benghazi tragedy." Are you at all aware of the findings in this investigation? No wild-eyed conspiracy theories please.
winslowhightower 26-Jan-18, 15:19	Of course. And they also found out that Hillary was using a private email server.
mo-oneandmore 26-Jan-18, 15:26	"And they also found out that Hillary was using a private email server." Yes --- It was also found that personal e-mail use was rather common among many high ranking Gov. officials --- and that the "private e-mail" non-use action had just recently been implemented.
winslowhightower 26-Jan-18, 15:28	So, who brings charges, the prosecutor or the investigator?
dmaestro 26-Jan-18, 16:53	www.google.com Without context you don’t get the problem Winslow. I don’t agree with HRCs solution but its not like it was so outrageous at the time.
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