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5imon 16-Nov-17, 12:42	North America team A thread for the North American team to discuss their moves. ipsissimus will post the board position whenever a move is made and you will all have 3 days to discuss options and vote for your move. Once decided he will let me know your move (by moving in our unrated game) and I will do the same on the Rest of World Team thread. No peeking at the other thread. I'm sure no-one would anyway! Good luck and thank you to all of you for taking part.
the-sigularity 16-Nov-17, 14:50	I am ready, willing, and eager to start. So I will vote for 1.d4 This opening is good enough to start any game, since it is a bid for central control, and opens the opportunity for many variations.
elyhim 16-Nov-17, 16:09	I vote 1.d4 since it avoids a lot of theoretical drawing lines.
canuktuff 16-Nov-17, 17:28	e4 spassky said e4 and win ! i favor this opening most times
ipsissimus 16-Nov-17, 18:21	d4 For much the same reasons as elyhim. I am a d4 player. I rarely play e4. Martin
ace-of-aces 16-Nov-17, 20:50	1. d4 is my choice.
ipsissimus 17-Nov-17, 00:26	Need votes from the other team members so we can make our move. Martin
ipsissimus 17-Nov-17, 01:01	Let's go Vote so we can make our move. Martin
brigadecommander 17-Nov-17, 06:10	i vote 1.d4. And recommend this line going forward;en.wikipedia.org
deepthough 17-Nov-17, 06:37	ok d4 I go with the lady, that discover Pinocchio
dmaestro 17-Nov-17, 09:01	I support d4 as well
the-sigularity 17-Nov-17, 21:43	At this time, we have two more members Than on the list, thanks to all for joining. Since we just started, may I suggest we give other club members time to decide if they want to join our team. Let's try to make it a fun game, and win. In case anyone missed it, 5imon said there will be three day limit for each move, and ipsissimus will be posting the moves we decide on, at the main thread. I am prone to commit errors from time to time, so please help me if there is any problem with my participation in any discussion.
redfoxrising 18-Nov-17, 04:59	I also go with d4
ipsissimus 18-Nov-17, 23:50	Deleted by ipsissimus on 18-Nov-17, 23:55.
ipsissimus 19-Nov-17, 00:02	Votes are d4: easy-win elyhim ipsissimus ace-of-aces brigadecommander deepthough redfoxrising dmaestro e4: canuktuff Everyone has voted. So I will move 1.d4 The current board and moves are at: gameknot.com The current board is: Black to move. Martin
the-sigularity 19-Nov-17, 17:26	The ROW team has moved This is the current position We need suggestions, and discussions
the-sigularity 19-Nov-17, 17:31	I suggest c4 The queen's gambit often played at master level. but am open to other plans by other team members.
elyhim 19-Nov-17, 17:33	or we can go into the french with e4
redfoxrising 19-Nov-17, 17:42	c4 is a good suggestion But e4 to go into the french is my suggestion.
the-sigularity 19-Nov-17, 17:47	the french sounds interesting That was my first intuition, however, I shy away from it because they will probably play d5, when we will expose our king, but if the rest of the team goes with e4, I will go along with it.
canuktuff 19-Nov-17, 18:16	C4 Elyhim didn't want a theoretical drawing lines so i like c4 too .
elyhim 19-Nov-17, 18:33	I was actually think of the french tarracsh varation. 1. d4 e6 2. e4 d5 3. Ne2!? c5 4. Ngf3 Nc6 5. exd5 exd5 6. Bb5
ipsissimus 19-Nov-17, 19:18	The French is not a theoretical drawing line. The French Tarracsh variation would be good or we could see if we could lure them into the Albin-Alekhine-Chatard attack. This is a gambit but in most cases white recovers his pawn quickly. Regardless of whether black accepts that gambit or declines it white will get an attack. This leads to sharp tactical lines where white wins the majority of the time and black wins less than 30% of the time. You can see this at chesstempo.com. The game would proceed this way 1.d4 e6 2.e4 d5 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Be7 5.e5 Nfd7 6.h4. Martin
canuktuff 19-Nov-17, 19:47	opening well since we are still in the opening ,and you guys like the french(my wife actually from Montreal) i like the french too lol .i will go with majority
ace-of-aces 19-Nov-17, 21:13	2. Bf4 to play London system.
dmaestro 19-Nov-17, 23:30	French Tarrasch makes sense
ace-of-aces 20-Nov-17, 08:04	If I am not mistaken, similar to Sicilian defense, French defense is usually played by Black against White's king pawn opening 1. e4 but it can also play and transpose into French against White''s 1. d4. For the beginners if you don't want or don't have much time to study many openings, French is a good opening choice as a Black to respond against White's either 1. d4 or 1.e4. The problem for Black is that you have to tackle with White's dominating d4 and e5 central pawns in some variation. Correct me if I am wrong.
the-sigularity 20-Nov-17, 08:28	Martin Would this be a good time to sum up the votes, to see what the majority has been leaning towards up to now?
deepthough 20-Nov-17, 08:57	I vote for c4 i want to see which is the idea plan of black and make our own
ace-of-aces 20-Nov-17, 09:18	Transposition of French from White's 1.d4 or e4 The above French position can be reached from either White's 1.d4 or e4 ( transposition ) by the following moves. 1. e4 - e6 2. d4- e5 or 1. d4 - e6 2. e4 - d5 The problem is that if White moves 3. e5, White will occupy a commanding central d4, e5 pawn chain and Black should know how to break up this pawn chain. Otherwise, White can castle Queen side and will attack with Blitzkreig pawn storm attack on Black which has castled on king side. That was my experience as a beginner before but I know now how to defend it as a Black player.
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