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maglicianer 15-Apr-14, 04:34
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A question already
Are we looking at a Bishop move as a step towards early castling? Otherwise is there anything wrong with developing the second knight? two questions in fact, sorry about that.
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Ok, based on majority vote we're going with 6...Bb4. Now, given that I'm going be busy these next few days, I will give you until Thursday evening to figure white's next move. And, @maglicianer: It's up to you to figure out if it's about castling or developing the N. Remember, it's another consultation where there's no correct answer, but I simply base moves on majority votes, and the idea is that I don't answer the questions, just like how I don't tell you whether a move is good or not. This is something that the individual has to figure out of him or herself, as it's part of active learning and how you become a better player. But, what I will say is that only time will tell.
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maglicianer 15-Apr-14, 10:55
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Safety First
As White, I would look at Be2. It wouldn't give the Bishop much more freedom yet, but it temporarily gives the King some protection, opens the King side castling option and keeps the Bishops not too far apart.
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caveman1960 15-Apr-14, 19:19
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7.cxd would be my choice. If we decide to move the KB I would prefer the more aggressive post on d3 aiming at blacks kside .
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One more vote
Hi I would go with Bd3 also
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@penguin-1: 7.Bd3 is different then what maglicianer voted for. Do you mean 7.Be2
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Was supporting caveman on the d3 move of the Bishop
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bigpeta 18-Apr-14, 01:05
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Bd3 for me
if cxd is played then black has Nxd5 putting a lot of pressure on the N on c3. Bd3 takes the long diagonal into what will be the K safety hole after castling.
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baddeeds 18-Apr-14, 06:50
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Deleted by baddeeds on 18-Apr-14, 20:00.
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bigpeta 18-Apr-14, 13:58
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???????????
i think you meant cxd5. and i cant see how that won the vote count
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caveman1960 18-Apr-14, 14:01
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agreed it should be Bd3 3 votes Be2 1 vote cxd 1 vote
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Thanks Bigpeta, I was confused myself about the move.
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Like in that other post, I misread this, and I see that the majority voted on Bd3, not cxd5. Since it's not a real game, I can change it. So, now we say that white has played 7.Bd3
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caveman1960 18-Apr-14, 20:08
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7....dxc giving white the IQP position.
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bigpeta 19-Apr-14, 00:36
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close call
between dxc and 0-0. I think dxc just edges it for me but would not be unhappy if 0-0 wins the vote
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Believe it or not, 7...dxc4 wins the vote.
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bigpeta 21-Apr-14, 01:14
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recapture with
Bxc4. and i must pad the post out to be long enough to post
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Agree with bigpeta
vote for Bxc4
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maglicianer 22-Apr-14, 03:18
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Bc2
I like the idea of retreating the Bishop to leave black with. The Bishop ten has slightly greater range and Black is left with a Bishop and pawn both undefended. Sorry about my lack of input on previous moves, due to Easter holidays.
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That's ok, maglicianer. In fact, things also got hectic for me, as well. In fact, that's why, believe it or not, I miscalculated votes earlier in the thread. Now, that things have settled down, I read all of them carefully and did not miss it. And, the majority voted on 8.Bxc4
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maglicianer 22-Apr-14, 23:02
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King side castling
This is the sort of position which would worry me a lot in a real game. It seems to me that White, even at this early stage, has the advantage and the initiative. Black, I feel, needs to do some urgent tidying up and look at co-ordination, but how best to continue? I'm afraid that I can't see an easy answer and I look forward to hearing what others think. I looked at Ne5 but this just makes the position even more untidy, I'm probably wrong, but I can't see long term advantages from Ne5 either. I'm down to looking at developing moves for the Light Bishop or the Knight on the b file. Neither of these look very satisfactory, so I'm left with King side castling as my choice,
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caveman1960 22-Apr-14, 23:09
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I think black should 0-0 here getting his king away from any central action,
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bigpeta 23-Apr-14, 00:23
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0-0 for me as well
its a good idea to try and castle in the 1st dozen moves. gets the K to safety. @Magli you are right to think white has a little advantage. That comes from white having the 1st move. Ne5 is a bit premature. best to carry on with development which here means 0-0 or Nc6. I prefer 0-0.
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Question ?
I have been wondering if castling too early in the game can give you opponent a better opportunity to position his attack before he has developed his board? Any thoughts? I know that it is considered wise to castle and I follow this rule but was wondering about waiting a little while?
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bigpeta 23-Apr-14, 05:39
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@penguin
it is a theoretical question which raises its head now and again. If you consider the ratio of castling 0-0 to 0-0-0 then its fairly certain which side the K will go. So i dont think it is a question to give much time to. Its the kind of question to put to wrecking ball in his deeper theory club.
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maglicianer 23-Apr-14, 05:53
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Castling
I'm glad that this subject came up because I am never sure when is the best time to castle. I guess it varies from game to game according to circumstances. I do remember, a period when I used to do everything I could to avoid castling, just to see what would happen. I was worried that castling was costing me a move. I'm over it now and I generally try to castle as early as possible. Anyway, in order to avoid wandering too far off topic, I will shut up for a while now.
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So, black has played 8...0-0
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maglicianer 24-Apr-14, 14:14
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Another Bishop move
How about Bd3 to line both Bishops up against the enemy defences?
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caveman1960 24-Apr-14, 15:45
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I think I would prefer 0-0 to get my king to safety as a priority to moving an already developed piece
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bigpeta 25-Apr-14, 00:14
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0-0 for me as well
if you were to play a B move then Bf4 taking the long diagonal would be better than Bd3. Not that Bd3 would be a'bad' move it is still good development.
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