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penguin_ 28-May-14, 06:40	3 for Bc2 Make it 3 for Bc2
baddeeds 28-May-14, 10:34	Looks like everyone now agrees on 15.Bc2
bigpeta 30-May-14, 10:44	time to plan the pieces are developed the Kings are castled so now time to pause and make a plan. Simplest way to start on this is to lok at strengths/weaknesses on both sides. Then see if advantage can be gained/lost from these. eg whites Q-pawn being isolated is a weakness. The diagonal a6-f1 is just crying out for a black B to control it. Im sure you can see many others. Having made a plan then look to see which moves fit in with this. for that diagonal then Ba6 works. whites dsb is a nuisance so start an attack on it with Nh5. just some thoughts to get the discussion going
cplusplus11 30-May-14, 15:58	15...Nd5 Is there anything wrong with 15..Nd5? It forces trades, which is good for Black. Other knight moves don't blockade the IQP.
bigpeta 31-May-14, 01:51	Nd5 leads to Qd3 threatening mate and forcing g6 Bg3 planning to come to f4 forcing h5 then blacks K defense is wrecked with lots aiming at it
baddeeds 31-May-14, 06:16	Deleted by baddeeds on 31-May-14, 09:28.
penguin_ 31-May-14, 06:22	Deleted by penguin_ on 31-May-14, 09:29.
bigpeta 31-May-14, 07:09	how??? joe how did you get Nd5 as the next move??? In my 1st post i suggested Ba6 or Na5. when Nd5 was suggested i posted a line of analysis that showed it was bad. so i repeat how did Nd5 win the vote. At best there was a tie to be decided
baddeeds 31-May-14, 09:27	I can always go back, but in your subject line you said 15...Nd5 That's why I thought it was your vote. Now, that I see otherwise, I'll delete it and go back.
cplusplus11 31-May-14, 10:24	15...Ba6 I change my vote to 15...Ba6
baddeeds 31-May-14, 19:56	In addition, we're going back to the original position, as it's still black to move. So, given this change, we have 1 vote for 15...Ba6. Normally, I wouldn't even go that far as to calculated the votes yet, but that's sort of what you have to do get back on track.
bigpeta 31-May-14, 23:57	i vote for Ba6. lets take that diagonal prisoner
penguin_ 01-Jun-14, 05:45	Ba6 Ba6 is good for me too. Joe I think it is safe to move the board
baddeeds 01-Jun-14, 18:37	Now, a unanimous vote has been reached for 15...Ba6
bigpeta 02-Jun-14, 00:49	for discussion white would like to play the B onto the h2-b8 diagonal. However if Bg3 is played immediately then Nh5 traps it. So 1st i propose h3 to give the B a bolt hole on h2. The other move option is Rc1 but the few games in the dbase show these all lead to a draw. Ideas anyone?
penguin_ 02-Jun-14, 07:29	Discussion 2 What about the obvious Qd3? Forces black to play g6 and makes pawn on h6 vulnerable.
cplusplus11 02-Jun-14, 07:56	If the white queen moves to d3 because the bishop will take it. Would moving the c3-knight to the kingside be a good option?
penguin_ 02-Jun-14, 07:59	Missed it on Qd3 Thanks cplusplus11 missed that all together.
bigpeta 02-Jun-14, 12:17	if the c3 N comes K-side it has to do so through Ne2 or Ne4. Both these are covered by black and so he could choose to exchange. On c3 the N is guarding d5 for the d-pawn should it wish to push forward. So i dont think moving the c3 N is a good idea.
penguin_ 03-Jun-14, 13:42	h3 is good for me I am good with h3
cplusplus11 03-Jun-14, 16:57	I vote I vote for 16.h3
baddeeds 03-Jun-14, 17:01	After reading bigpeta's vote more carefully and seeing what everyonelse voted on, white's next move is 16.h3
penguin_ 03-Jun-14, 18:14	How about Qd6 or Na5? Black can bring its Q into play against the white K's position Qd6. Or Na5 opens up the R.
cplusplus11 03-Jun-14, 19:56	Nh5 or Nd5? Qd6 allows white to continue his plan to reposition his bishop to the h2-b8 diagonal with tempo. Nh5 prevents the bishop from going to g3. Maybe Nd5 is playable now that Qd3 has been prevented.
bigpeta 04-Jun-14, 01:11	analysis of suggestions Nh5 or Nd5 both lead to exchanges which leave the game even so either is safe to play. Na5 just to give the R an open file i dont think is the best place for it. Qd6 blocks everything in and allows Bg3 to attack it. Instead a possibility is Qc7 doing the same job of taking the diagonal but leaves d6 free for the B. However it does further block the R. So i am quite happy to go with Nd5 or Nh5
penguin_ 04-Jun-14, 07:08	Nh5 my preference I prefer Nh5 black will keep it's N in play which is guarding it's K.
cplusplus11 04-Jun-14, 13:48	I vote for Nh5 it forces the white DSB off the board.
baddeeds 04-Jun-14, 20:27	So, one thing that bigpeta liked a lot was 16...Nh5, and this what everyonelse voted on.
penguin_ 06-Jun-14, 07:07	Deleted by penguin_ on 06-Jun-14, 07:08.
penguin_ 06-Jun-14, 07:11	Whites B on h4 looks like a sitting duck It looks like the B needs to be protected or moved now. Otherwise next turn Black plays Bxh4, followed by Nxh4 and then Qxh4 and white is down an N. I suggest Bxe7 or Bg3. What you guys think?
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