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penguin_ 06-Jul-14, 16:54	I'm good with Nxd4 When I first looked at this I missed the a6 B protecting the R. Nxd4 is good.
bigpeta 09-Jul-14, 06:17	@phyrexianrook If you look up a few posts you will see my analysis of Nxd4 which i have voted for. so please let us have your analysis to join mine
baddeeds 09-Jul-14, 13:48	21...Nxd4
bigpeta 10-Jul-14, 01:13	time for some bloodshed white has 2 strong central pieces so now is the time to give them some room to work. start with Rxc8 This forces the Bxc8 to return to the back rank as if Qxc8 the black N is lost Qxd4. The central N and B can be used to create all sorts of havoc once they have room. So my vote is for Rxc8
penguin_ 10-Jul-14, 01:59	Seems good to me Rxc8 Seems good to me Rxc8.
penguin_ 10-Jul-14, 07:29	Short Vacation - Keep things moving My vote for Black I will be out of town for a short vacation, ie long weekend. To keep things moving, if white plays RxC8 then my vote for black is Bxc8. Talk to ya in a few.
baddeeds 10-Jul-14, 07:31	22.Rxc8
bigpeta 10-Jul-14, 10:55	Bxc8 is forced or a serious loss of material will result
penguin_ 15-Jul-14, 07:19	Update Board with Bxc8? Hi Joe, looks like we can update the board with Bxc8? Thanks
baddeeds 15-Jul-14, 14:09	Deleted by baddeeds on 15-Jul-14, 14:09.
baddeeds 15-Jul-14, 14:10	22...Bxc8
bigpeta 16-Jul-14, 03:03	now Qd3 this puts teh Q in a central position. It prevents the B from returning to a6. Plus it lines up with the B to attack the K defense.
penguin_ 16-Jul-14, 13:28	I'm with Qd3 I vote for Qd3 looks like best move right now.
baddeeds 16-Jul-14, 20:16	23.Qd3
baddeeds 16-Jul-14, 20:18	Deleted by baddeeds on 16-Jul-14, 20:51.
penguin_ 17-Jul-14, 01:47	Deleted by penguin_ on 17-Jul-14, 12:34.
baddeeds 17-Jul-14, 19:51	BTW, feel free to repost again. I got the ok from GK.
penguin_ 18-Jul-14, 13:20	Black seems to be in tough spot Play Nf5 I suggest Nf5 may set up some exchanges which black can come out even or else allows black to possibly play Nh4 which is a good spot for the N.
bigpeta 19-Jul-14, 01:53	analysis of Nf5 the most likely continuation is Qxd8 Rxd8 Bxf5 exf5 Nc6 so the black N will not get a chance for a second move as it will be taken. Now in theory because the pawns are split on both sides of the board then black should be better with B vs N. However his B and R are tripping each other up. White threatens Nxa7 and black cannot prevent it because :- The ideal defense is Rd7 but this allows Re8+ winning the B. So black must play Rf8 and give up the a-pawn. So overall Nf5 is not the best move for black.
penguin_ 19-Jul-14, 11:36	@bigpeta Hey Pete, yes I had gotten the same analysis of Nf5 that you have. I don't see how black can prevent white from playing Nc6 and possibly playing Nxa7 except to move the pawn. The loss of the pawn seemed the best black could do in this situation.
bigpeta 19-Jul-14, 14:08	@penguin yes and so my final note that Nf5 is not blacks best move. So look for something better. ie something that does not start with Nf5. as an example how about Qd6 this gives the Q room to move and threatens the white N.
phyrexianrook 19-Jul-14, 23:19	Back again, work is busy! Hi Guys, Pardon my extended absence again, the game progresses very quickly and I've been snowed under at work and not really keeping up. It seems in the current position black should be aiming to consolidate his extra pawn, and then gain some space. My suggestion here is f5 hitting the bishop and all but forcing it to f3. This move capitalises on the Qd3 move which blocks off the escape diagonal. After 24. Bf3, we play 24. ... Nxf3+ and this forces white to recapture with the queen, 25. Qxf3. From this position we've achieved a bishop vs knight on an open board, and are up a pawn. From here the plan should be to exchange the queens and rooks and win the endgame. The rest of the game will not be a push over, but if I had this over the board I would say that white is objectively lost. Feel free to dispute that
penguin_ 20-Jul-14, 13:35	Deleted by penguin_ on 20-Jul-14, 13:35.
penguin_ 22-Jul-14, 09:45	@Bigpeta - Qd6 Black Qd6 and White Nc6 it looks to me from here black will be down at least a pawn or more depending on how it is played out. I know you suggested Qd6 so what am I missing?
bigpeta 23-Jul-14, 05:03	@Loren If after Qd6 white plays Nc6 then white will be allowed to take a7 because Bd7 traps the N out of the game on the edge of the board.
bigpeta 23-Jul-14, 05:11	@ phyrexianrook f5 looks a good candidate move but it has one downside moves will probably follow not Bf3 as this results in Nxf3+ Qxf3 (not Nxf3 as then the Q will be lost) and whites position is broken up with black controlling the d-file and an extra pawn still. Instead Rd1 fxe4 Qxd4 Qf6 and black has 2 isolated pawns, So taken all into consideration i will stick with Qd6 but agree that f5 is a close second.
penguin_ 24-Jul-14, 07:04	Good with Qd6 I'm good with Qd6.
baddeeds 24-Jul-14, 20:23	23...Qd6
penguin_ 28-Jul-14, 13:11	Good old Nc6 with the idea to follow with a Rd1 I'm rolling out good old Nc6 again with the idea of a possible follow up with Rd1 and a power play down the middle.
bigpeta 29-Jul-14, 01:17	Nc6 i agree Nc6 is the move now
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