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wrecking_ball 03-Apr-14, 14:33 |
 The Trompowski ThreadYes,the Tromp I actually sometimes use AS a drawing tool against 2400 and above players,yet,I have found out that I win a better deal of them(as white) with players just under the master levels.You can find a good # of my wins in my GK database.Its important to note that I have even more wins as white when playing this opening OTB as opposed to corresp.Seems like my OTB opponents are not as instantly prepared for the Tromp as corresp players who can take their time,look at the books and databases,ect ect over a 3 day period of time. As few stats on the tromp.Stats can vary depending upon the source,but you can get an idea,anyway: chesstempo.com chesstempo.com Trompowsky Attack 38 31 31 1. d4 Nf6 2. Bg5 - 2...d5 Variation 36 29 35 2...d5 - 2...Ne4 Variation 38 32 30 2...Ne4 White win,black win,draw(above numbers) Yes,many times the Bishop is on the loose,(depending upon which Tromp line you use)but I sort of compare it to a Ruy in the first few opening moves(a bit anyway)where white retreats his Bishop back after blacks pawns attack it....to a safety area on whites first few ranks. But in reality,there is actually no loose Bishop in a pure Trompowsky Attack!Now why is that? Well from a Trompowsky "purists"view,white must EXCHANGE his Bishop on g5 for Blacks Knight on f6!This creates the famed "doubled pawn"structure on Blacks F file.As one of my Tromp books states(The Trompowsky Attack,by Andrew Soltis GM)...."the capture on f6 is the only line true to the spirit of the Trompowsky,although there are some trappy lines to be found in some of the offshoots".Soltis goes on to mention the words..."played a pure Trompowsky Attack"and illustrates various games in his nice book. So games like: 1.d4,Nf6 2.Bg5,c5 3.Bxf6,gxf6 4.d5,Qb6 or like: 1.d4,Nf6 2.Bg5,d5 3.Bxf6,exf6 4.e3,c5 Both of these var lines are considered a "true purists Tromp",even though many other lines will be catagorized under the Tromp opening label....so then,no "loose"Bishop,just a captured one!! Here are 2 pure tromp games from my past game history.One is a win,the other a draw....  game game In that win with drhpatron,he admitted to me(at that time)that he was not very familiar with the Tromp,and got "lost"with my moves.I already had researched his past game history on GK regarding a Tromp which he did not have,so thats why I used it against him.I'm sure by now he is much better preparded for it now,however! As I stated in many other GK threads,the Tromp is a great tool for moving out of book quickly and is still evolving.Polgar used it alot in her games,and I have followed her history using this attack game and have won quite alot with it. |
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wrecking_ball 03-Apr-14, 14:40 |
A penny's worth of thought for now... A chess player must have the true passion and patience and be willing to burn the midnight oil to master an opening like a Tromp.or any other opening for that matter. Three pretty good books: www.amazon.com www.amazon.com www.amazon.com A few of my games: game game game bd= 11764892 Some past forum remarks by me: Another tromp win.... Since this string is on the Tromp,I will occassionally post some of my finished Tromp games as above.Throughout my chess career,I have been very successful playing the so called "dreaded"Trompowsky Attack.I am playing a few right now,but can't speak of those.This one which just recently finished was against a strong master,who was doing fairly well up until a weakened and non properly supported pawn structure on blacks Queen side and exchanges from move #24.....quite early for a floor to begin to crumble on the master + level.But one of the keys in this game was to have a "free wheeling" connected Rook pair on the first rank which is usually a powerful combination for attack and defense and potential pressure on mid game central doubled pawns,as in slobodanmijic e4+e6 pawns. While 3.Bh4 has become a main line in many past games,I consider 3.Bf4! much more solid and whites initial Bishop retreat still maintains alot of uncharted and suprising flavor,yet still maintains solidity that is not present in other lines,whether known or unknown. The Tromp has what I deem as a "psychological"advantage many times over opponents,since position and tactics many times takes a turn down a "side road" away from well known book lines(and many times move out of book quicker than normal),and those strong players that have a positional "snapshot" in their mind about what they have been use to in a Queen pawn opening will simply dissolve very quickly...when I unleash my "pet"and are not fully prepared for it. In the game that I will post below,one note in 3.Bf4's advantage is that 3....g5 has not as much sting since white can play 5.Bc1 and can possibly win a pawn and some tempo with 5.f3.If black would have played more subtle with 3....e6,white can exploit the Knights position to gain some additional time with 4.f3 or 4.Nd2. game I have also has a good # of draws with the Tromp,but the good news is that I rarely lose with it.For that reason,it is my opinion that it is a good weapon to use against a stronger opponent even higher in rating than myself,and perhaps should be considered likewise on the lower rating levels under the same scenario. Keep in mind that the "true" and "pure"Tromps are usually characterized by the move 3.Bxf6,exf6 or 3.Bxf6,gxf6. Thats all for now.With some of ions great annotations,some of the books I mentioned and the comments,along with some of my game links I posted(which you can go through in time),this should help any tromp enthusiasts! TA Again,what i'm trying to say is that it takes a certain type of player and a higher degree of "passion"to become proficient at an opening like the Tromp.It cannot simply be a "passing"fancy.One must be willing to really have a "sincere"interest in the Tromp and be willing to study for months or even years the various subvariations and unexplored areas that this opening creates.It really IS a fine opening and IS played on the GM level.The element of surprise value is key many times in lining up(preparing) the Tromp against "just the right"opponent!I cannot count how many opponents I have beaten with this opening,simply because it was a "new"type of game that my opponent was not used to playing,did not recognize the new piece patterns that develop from early on or even a different pawn chain configuration.Is it the strongest opening,with razor sharp moves and gambits?No,no,no!Its the type of game that takes on obscure,subtle type moves with many times a slow positional buildup.But then,it can also be over in less than 25 moves for the unprepared.So winning many times comes with opening that are less known,not necessarily"better",stronger or have the highest degree of statistical wins!Forget that way of thinking! In summary,it IS many times a psychological advantage to play this game against the unprepared,especially one that can move out of the books fairly quickly.My advice to any tromp "want to be's" is to buy a few books on the tromp and raise your awareness on the unusual first 10-15 moves that can surface and try them against an opponent that does not have a Tromp in their game history on GK.Experiment! Later in another post,i'm going to speak about a much weaker opening....The Basman Defense. But mainly as a weapon utilized in a different winning "form",mainly as a blitz weapon,not the long corresp game.But for now,I hope you readers atleast try out the tromp once in a while.You know,that Ruy,or Queens gambit declined can get alittle old and boring sometimes!Spice it up a bit,kick it up a notch! |
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wrecking_ball 03-Apr-14, 14:42 |
I suggest getting this book as well as the others above if you guys ever want to learn the better offshoots of this unusual type of play for white. www.amazon.com |
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wrecking_ball 06-Apr-14, 10:38 |
game Another tromp like draw from the past when I was tactical abyss.Just posting for anyone who wants to check out my opening move variations. |