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 youtu.be Video is 3:22 This will undoubtedly, imo, get other countries involved. Not saying the ground invasion is unwarranted or warranted; just saying it will get other countries involved - which is significant from the standpoint of End Times prophecy in the Bible. We’ve got a lunar eclipse in Jerusalem this weekend too - “signs in the heavens” |
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Will unbelievers see Jesus Christ and hear the trumpet when Jesus Christ descends from Heaven to take believers home? As far as I know (could be wrong,) the only time Jesus Christ appeared to man after his Resurrection and ascension into Heaven was when He appeared to Saul of Tarsus on the road to Damascus. Saul, who was later renamed Paul, was definitely not a believer - at the time, he was one of the worst persecutors of Christians - and Jesus appeared to him as a bright light in Heaven. But Saul heard His voice. However, others who were with Saul (presumably unbelievers at the time as well) saw the light but did not hear His voice (specifically the words that Jesus said.) As far as I know, that’s all we have to go on in terms of whether unbelievers will see Jesus Christ in the Rapture. I did read Jesus Christ’s Second Coming - after the Rapture and seven-year Tribulation - will be visible to everyone. I think three accounts in the New Testament mention Saul’s encounter with the Resurrected Christ on the road to Damascus. One is told by Luke in Acts and two are told by Paul, as recorded by Luke, the author of Acts. For those interested, here are the accounts… “And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest, And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues, that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he might bring them bound unto Jerusalem. And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do. And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man. And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus. And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.” (Acts 9:1-9) In Paul’s own words… “And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me. And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest. And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do. And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus. And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there, Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him. And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.” (Acts 22:6-14) “At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me. And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision: But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me. Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.” (Acts 26:13-23) As far as the apparent discrepancy about whether those who were with Saul heard Jesus’ voice, I found a good explanation here… m.gameknot.com (Time stamp 15:28) |
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“Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?” (1 Corinthians 15:50-55) That would seem to preclude unbelievers seeing anything but people disappearing right in front of them. Here’s one of the few definitive answers I saw on the Internet… <<During the Rapture, will unbelievers be able to see the Christians rise to heaven? The idea of the rapture can be found in 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17. According to this, the Christians who have died before the rapture will rise from the dead and gather with Jesus in the clouds. Those that are alive during that time will follow those that have died to join with Christ in the clouds (vs. 17). Paul says that those who are alive during that time will be “caught up” with Jesus and the rest of the believers in the clouds before we are transported into heaven. When Paul uses the word “caught up”, it’s the idea of catching something really fast…like you see a $20 bill on the floor and you quickly pick it up to keep it. That’s the idea. The rapture will happen so fast that no one will be able to see the believers being “snatched away” by Jesus Christ. It’s our belief that the Rapture will happen so quick that unbelievers will not be able to see what exactly happened.>> rawlsbc.org If the “powers that be” who are left behind on earth want to explain what happened as a vast alien abduction of humans who were not enlightened enough to receive the aliens’ teachings, it’d make sense that the Rapture will take place so quickly nearly everyone not taken will be mystified. |
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What a time to be alive! Imagine not experiencing death… From a 10/18 post on page 3 of this thread with a timestamp of 01:09… <<Apparently, an alliance between Russia and Iran to attack Israel was prophesied 2,600 years ago in the book of Ezekiel. “What The Terror Attacks On Israel Mean For End Times Prophecy” youtu.be Video is 9:17>> From a 10/19 post on page 3 of this thread with a timestamp of 18:57… <<I think the next thing to look for is whether Israel invades Gaza on the ground and whether Russia joins Iran in fighting against Israel.>> From a news article dated 10/30… <<Vladimir Putin turns on Netanyahu as he sees Israel 'as Russia's enemy' EXCLUSIVE: The Russian president "no longer cares for Netanyahu" as Russia's stance shifts in the Middle East, a former speechwriter has claimed. Vladimir Putin will now see Israel as an "enemy" as he moves closer to Iran and sides with Hamas in the Middle East, a former speechwriter for the Russian President tells Daily Express US. Hamas has called Russia its “closest friend” as the terror group vows to release eight Russian hostages kidnapped during its October 7 attack in Israel. Putin appears to be breaking from his previous line of neutrality over Israel and Palestine. This week he called on Israel to cancel its ground invasion into Gaza. Abbas Gallyamov, a former speechwriter for Putin from 2008-2012 who lives in Tel Aviv, tells Daily Express US that Putin has become more reliant on Iran for weapons, and this is why he has shifted to a more pro-Palestine stance. He said: "For many years Putin was really skilfully keeping a middle ground between Israel and Iran, but recently Russia became dependent on Tehran because of arms deliveries. "He lost his chance to be an independent player. It was probably that Iran said 'we support you in Ukraine, you support us in the Middle East'.>> www.the-express.com |
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The Great Disappearance Interview with Dr. David Jeremiah youtu.be Video is 22:30 |
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Here are the three passages… “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.” (Mark 13:24-27) “Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” (Matthew 24:26-31) “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” (2 Thessalonians 2:1-12) In my opinion, the Rapture is not referred to in the Mark and Matthew passages and is only referred to in the first verse of the 2 Thessalonians passage. In the passage from the Gospel of Mark, Jesus, imo, is referring to Christians who became Christians *during the Tribulation* (otherwise known as the “Tribulation saints.”) <<c. He will send His angels, and gather together His elect: When Jesus returns to this earth after that tribulation, He will come with the saints in heaven and to gather those who have come to Jesus during the tribulation and have survived.>> enduringword.com Regarding the passage from the Gospel of Matthew, this is a really awesome video on why Jesus is not talking about the Rapture in Matthew 24:29-31… youtu.be Video is 11:42 I already posted a discussion on the 2 Thessalonians passage and why the Rapture is only referenced by the Apostle Paul in the first verse of 2 Thessalonians 2… m.gameknot.com (First and last posts on this page.) |
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Check out the first four verses… “Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.” (2 Thessalonians 2:1-4) The King James Version of the Bible unfortunately refers in the second verse to “the day of Christ” when most translations say “day of the Lord.” biblehub.com In my opinion, the “day of the Lord” in 2 Thessalonians 2:2 refers to the Tribulation. <<Paul says that the “day of the Lord” cannot come to pass "unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed.” The term “day of the Lord” is a reference to the seven-year Tribulation, not to the Rapture.>> versebyverseministry.org So after the first verse, the Apostle Paul is not talking about the Rapture but is trying to reassure members of the Thessalonica church who thought they were in the Tribulation and had missed the Rapture (apparently they were undergoing great persecution.) I mentioned this a while ago but can’t find where so thought I’d post it again. |
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<<The idea of a rapture as it is currently defined is not found in historic Christianity, and is a relatively recent doctrine originating from the 1830s. The term is used frequently among fundamentalist theologians in the United States.>> en.m.wikipedia.org. While it really has no bearing on the veracity of the Rapture, it’s, imo, simply not true that the Rapture dates only to the 1800s. Here are some quotes from Ephraim the Syrian, a/k/a Ephraem or Ephrem, a Christian theologian and prolific writer who was born in 306 and died in 373. • "Blessed is he who unceasingly remembers the fear of Gehenna and hastens to sincerely repent … for he shall be delivered from the great tribulation." • "For the elect shall be gathered prior to the tribulation, so they shall not see the confusion and the great tribulation coming upon the unrighteous world." • "The righteous ... shall be seized up in the clouds to meet him. While those who are lazy and timid like me shall remain on earth trembling." (This kind of false modesty and self-deprecation was apparently common back then.) • "Again, when we see the saints in glory flying off in light in the clouds of the air to meet Christ, the king of glory, but see ourselves in the great tribulation, who shall be able to bear that shame and terrible reproach?" • "Watch always, praying continually, that you may be worthy to escape the tribulation ... if anyone has tears and compunction, let him pray the Lord that he might be delivered from the tribulation which is about to come upon the earth, that he might not see it all, nor the beast himself, nor even hear of its terrors." • "Count us worth, Lord, of the rapture of the righteous, when they meet you the Master in the clouds, that we might not be tried by the bitter and inexorable judgment." • "Take us out from the coming fear, and count us worthy of that rapture (snatching away) when the righteous are raptured (snatched) in the clouds to the air to meet the King of glory." Here’s a quote from Irenaeus, a bishop of Lugdunum (present day Lyon, France) who was born circa 130 and died circa 202. • “When in the end the Church shall be suddenly caught up from this, it is said, ‘There shall be tribulation such as has not been since the beginning, neither shall be.’ For this is the last contest of the righteous, in which, when they overcome they are crowned with incorruption.” (The righteous in that quote refers to those who become Christians during the Tribulation.) And here’s a quote from Eusebius, bishop of Caesarea by the Sea who was born circa 260 and died circa 340. • “As all perished then except those gathered with Noah in the ark, so also at his coming, the ungodly in the season of apostasy ... shall perish ... while those men found of God are to be gathered into the heavenly ark and saved according to the pattern of Noah ... all the righteous and godly are to be separated from the ungodly and gathered into the heavenly ark of God. For in this way [comes the time] when not even one righteous man will be found any more among mankind. And when all the ungodly have been made atheists by the antichrist, and the whole world is overcome by apostasy, the wrath of God shall come upon the ungodly.” www.pre-trib.org I have no reason to doubt these quotes, but, again, the Rapture is clearly mentioned in the Apostle Paul’s epistles to churches at Thessalonica and Corinth, and is also mentioned in the Gospels, all of which predate these quotes. And I believe the Rapture is referenced in the Old Testament (Isaiah 26:19-21 and Enoch and Elijah, who were taken to Heaven without dying.) I’ll probably add to this later. |
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youtu.be Video is 24:46 From the video description: <<Peter warned us that in these last days there would be mockers and scoffers among us saying “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” (2 Peter 3:4). This is the third time in three years I have uploaded a video on this topic and I found it interesting that each time, there was unrest in Israel. Could it be that we consider this a “higher watch time”? Could it be that we want to find a peaceful solution to the world’s problems? When we look at Biblical Prophecy, we find that this is what we can expect right before the appearing of our Great God and Savior - Our Blessed Hope!!>> |
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There's an O T passage which speaks about the nations of the world watching Israel before the End of Days. Much like what we see going on today. While some people will be hoping for a peaceful resolution between Israel and the Arab nations; IMO just as Satan entered Judas to betray Jesus so will Satan work through the Antichrist and others that wants power and control over the world's affairs more than they want peace. Mad with greed and hatred they're going to fulfill Biblical Prophecy and set the "stage" for Christ's return. |
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Pre, Mid Or Post Tribulation? Which would also give credence to the Pre-tribulation beliefs, and an easy explanation for why the Antichrist is not coming on the scene until God allows it. This should, also, IMO restrain Christian curiosity about wondering whether or not we're going to see the Antichrist. If we're here to see him, that would mean we missed out on the Rapture! Pre-tribulation beliefs, however, give me problems/ issues understanding some passages of Revelation/ and the Second Advant of Jesus Christ. Specifically, the idea of Jesus "making two trips" to earth at the End of Days. This link here says just that; "The Thessalonians had mixed up teachings about the return of the Lord for His saints, at the Rapture - when Jesus will meet us in the clouds... and the Second Coming of Christ - when He returns to earth, with His saints. At His Second Coming, Christ will stand on the Mount of Olives and set up His millennial reign in Jerusalem." Source: dailyverse.knowing-jesus.com Of course, I am not looking for any contraversy, but I think Scripture aught to have clear enough explanation for something this important. Thanks for your help in advance. |
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“For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) In the Second Coming (after the seven-year Tribulation,) Jesus Christ returns to earth. That’s a great link, BTW. |
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<<Jesus IS Coming! RAPTURE & JUDGMENT Imminent! Are YOU Ready?>> youtu.be Video is 7:19 |
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When Did The Church Become Complacent I was unsure what all of that meant for me which was a little frightening for one not sure of God's love. Though I welcomed the thought of evil doers getting their just dues and God settling scores. Today with a better grasp on the theology of what the Gospel is, I should be afraid for the people I love and who don't believe. Yet, the prospect of actually seeing Jesus face to face, is something I need to meditate on more than before - if I can believe the news about what is happening in Israel. Just some personal thoughts |
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“He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.” (1 John 5:12-13) <<Verse 13 directly states the overall purpose of John's letter, which is assuring true believers of their salvation. "These things" refers to the contents of the previous passage. Specifically, that belief in Christ guarantees salvation. A Christian does not need to guess whether he or she will have eternal life. Those who know God and love others show evidence God is in their life. John has been specific regarding how a person can know they have eternal life. This starts with the only means of obtaining salvation, which is faith in the Son of God. There is no list of works a person can do to determine eternal life. Nor are there any sins a believer can commit which will cause them to lose it. Ultimately, eternal life is based—entirely—on whether a person has believed in Jesus Christ. Recognizing salvation, however, is a matter of examining one's life, for the kind of signs John has mentioned previously in this letter. The eternal life John has spoken of so many times in this letter is of central importance, and it comes from one source: the Son of God. The remaining verses provide five additional teachings followed by a brief command to stay away from idols.>> www.bibleref.com |
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Debunking the Rapture deniers 5 Problems with the Rapture youtu.be Video is 19:29 Before identifying and responding to the “five problems,” the guy who made this video, a Lutheran pastor, says the Rapture is a “secret” event and the clothes of Christians taken in the Rapture are neatly-folded and left behind. The Bible says no such thing. This is his own straw man, and I only bring it up because he repeats it several times and then argues against it. It appears he’s basing his view of the Rapture on the entertainment industry. Anyway, here are his five reasons (followed by my responses.) 1) It’s not historic Christian teaching. This is false. The idea of the Rapture goes back to the early church (as shown in posts above) and it certainly predates the 1800s, as two well-known theologians - Matthew Henry (1662-1714) and Dr. John Guyse (1680-1761) - both taught the Rapture and even used the English word, “Rapture.” See from 0:55 to 2:25 in this video… youtu.be So the idea the Rapture was invented in the 1800s is simply false. 2) 1 Thessalonians 4 teaches a very loud and public coming of Christ instead of a secret one. Again, this pastor’s idea of a “secret” Rapture is his own straw man. Nowhere in the Bible (that I’m aware of) does it say the Rapture will be secret. In fact it’s hard to imagine the disappearance of hundreds of millions of Christians could be a secret. The Lutheran pastor in this video also falsely says that in the Rapture, Jesus Christ descends to the earth. The verses in 1 Thessalonians 4 don’t say that at all. “For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17) Like false claims about the Rapture being a “secret event” where Christians’ clothes are left neatly-folded behind, Jesus descending to the earth is another Rapture straw man from the pastor. He then claims the “day of the Lord” refers to the Rapture when it’s clear that the “day of the Lord” refers to a time of judgment and wrath - in other words, the Tribulation. 3) Luke 17:34-36 is not referring to the Rapture. First, here are the verses he references… “I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left. Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.” (Luke 17:34-36) The Lutheran pastor makes the case that because Jesus compares this to the days of Noah and the days of Sodom and Gomorrah, that means those left behind are the faithful and those taken are the wicked (which would be the opposite of the Rapture.) But I think the actual comparison is to what the world will be like when the Rapture happens - everything proceeding normally - and is not a comparison of who is left behind and who is taken. It’s hard to imagine everything proceeding normally after the Tribulation. 4) 1 Corinthians 15:50-55 is not referring to the Rapture. First the verses… “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?” (1 Corinthians 15:50-55) The Lutheran pastor says this is referring to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Why then does the Apostle Paul say it’s a “mystery?” Why does he say not all humans will die? Why does he say humans who are alive will put on incorruption and immortality? If this is about the Second Coming, why doesn’t Paul mention the Battle of Armageddon and Christ’s Millennial Kingdom, which are associated with the Second Coming of Jesus Christ? 5) Jesus Christ didn’t teach it. Only if one believes the part of Jesus’ Olivet Discourse in which a person is taken and another is left behind does not refer to the Rapture. He then quotes this passage from Mark 13, saying it refers to the Second Coming (which I agree with.) “But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.” (Mark 13:24-27) But notice the difference between Mark 13:27 and 1Thessalonians 4:16-17. In Mark 13:27, the angels gather together Christians (those who got saved during the Tribulation.) In 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17, the Lord Himself (not angels) gathers Christians to meet Him in the clouds. Also, Jesus, when He was fully man and fully God, voluntarily relinquished some of the knowledge He had before His incarnation. For example, a lot of what we know about the End Times we know from Revelation - not from the Gospels. |
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youtu.be Video is 21:20 “For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.” (1 Corinthians 15:53-54) |
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The Pre-Trib Rapture: Not Subject to God's Wrath! youtu.be Video is 19:44 From the video description… <<Some will say that “The God of the Old Testament is not the same as The God of the New Testament” and yet the writer of Hebrews says “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.” (Hebrews 13:8). Jesus told His disciples “If you’ve seen me, you’ve seen the Father”. Jesus is Lord and His attributes never change. Throughout scripture we see a pattern of believers being removed before the wrath of God is poured out with punishment being reserved for the unjust. The Apostle Paul told us multiple times that we who are in Christ are not subject to God’s Wrath. This world is looking more and more like the one Jesus described when He was asked about the end times. Could He be waiting for you? We couldn’t be righteous on our own, so The Lord made a way for us when He shed His innocent blood on the cross, died, and rose again on the third day according to Biblical Scripture. When we believe He did this, we are saved.>> |
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Because if a Christian denies the Rapture, he’s essentially either denying the Tribulation (which is a majority of the book of Revelation) or he’s saying believers, who are righteous by the blood of Jesus Christ, go through the Tribulation and endure the same wrath and punishment as unbelievers. Doesn’t make sense and is not at all consistent with God’s actions throughout the Bible. I’m certainly no End Times expert, but the only way (imo) a pre-Tribulation Rapture may not be possible is if the Rapture happens midway through the seven-year Tribulation. Because my understanding is the first 3.5 years of the Tribulation are not going to be nearly as severe as the final 3.5 years. But I believe in a pre-Tribulation Rapture because I think it is supported Biblically. It appears from these verses written by the Apostle Paul that the Antichrist will not be revealed until the church (i.e. believers who have the indwelt Holy Spirit of God) has been removed from the earth. “And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:” (2 Thessalonians 2:6-8) I read online a couple of days ago that some believe we’re in the Tribulation right now. I honestly don’t think they know how bad the Tribulation is going to be. “And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.” (Revelation 6:7-8) “And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.” (Revelation 9:17-18) “And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God. And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.” (Revelation 14:19-20) |
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<<Influential, iconic, sincere, and captivating: Billy Graham was one of the most influential evangelical preachers of the 20th century. His unflinching dedication to proclaiming the gospel and the hope found in Jesus Christ has been an inspiration to millions of people all over the world. One of the core beliefs that Billy Graham held and preached about was the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. Just as surely as He rose from the dead Billy Graham believed that the second coming of Jesus was imminent and that every Christian should be ready for it at all times. He often said, “The Bible teaches that Jesus Christ will return one day, just as surely as He rose from the dead.” Graham encouraged Christians to live their lives in a way that honored God and to be ready for His return. In a sermon delivered in 1997, Billy Graham said, “The Bible says in 1 John 3:3, ‘Everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.’ If we have the hope of Christ’s return, it should impact the way we live our lives. We should be living in such a way that when He returns, we’ll be ready to go home with Him.” Before the days of His wrath are poured out He also said, “The rapture is a central part of our hope as Christians. It is the time when we will be reunited with our loved ones who have gone on before us, and when we will be with the Lord forever… The rapture is a comfort to the church, for it means that we will not have to endure the great tribulation that is to come upon the earth. It means that we will be taken up to be with the Lord before the days of His wrath are poured out upon the world.”>> encountertoday.com |
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Interesting (and short) End Times video followed by United Nations’ link on “COP 28,” which runs from Nov. 30 to Dec. 12. youtu.be Video is 3:27 www.un.org Make of this what you will. |
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“But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.” (1 Thessalonians 5:1-5) And a little later… “But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.” (1 Thessalonians 5:8-10) |
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youtu.be Video is 20:11 From the video description: <<“That which has been is what will be, That which is done is what will be done, And there is nothing new under the sun.” (Ecclesiastes 1:9). King Solomon was very wise when He penned these God inspired words. Not only is there direct prophecy about the second coming of our Lord and Savior, but there are numerous types and shadows in both the old and new testaments pointing to the rapture of the church. Just when we think we know and understand Biblical history, we find deeper meanings when we uncover types and shadows.>> One of the interesting points Carol Vey makes in this video - believers often have no problem believing fulfilled prophecies but often find hard to believe prophecies that are awaiting fulfillment. |
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Putting this in the Rapture thread ‘cause I didn’t know where else to put it and didn’t want to start a new thread… 2500 YEAR OLD PROPHECY FULFILLED⁉️ youtube.com Video is 36 seconds. I’ll try to find out more about this later this week. This guy seems pretty reliable based on prior videos so I have no reason to doubt him on this. |
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youtu.be Video is 28:30 Interestingly, a lot of Christians known as “watchers” think the Rapture will happen during Hanukkah this year, which happens to coincide with the end of the United Nations’ COP 28 meeting. I won’t post any of the videos ‘cause they’re really long and I haven’t seen them (just saw the titles, descriptions and a few minutes of one of them.) I believe the Rapture will take place this year based on the Berisheet Passover Prophecy, but if it doesn’t, it can’t be far away. The great scientist Isaac Newtown predicted the Second Coming of Jesus Christ would take place in 2060 and he made that prediction way back in the 1700s. For Christians who believe in a pre-Tribulation Rapture, that puts the Rapture in 2053. Newton was devoted to studying the Bible but also was into alchemy (the definition of which I’m still not sure about, but I think it has to do with the occult, which the Bible warns against.) |
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youtu.be Video is 9:44 From the video description… <<As Bible Prophecy ramps up it becomes more and more clear every day that the world has entered the labor pains stage before it is delivered into the tribulation prophesied in Revelation 6- 19. If you don’t know Jesus as your Lord and Savior now is the time to place your faith in what he did on the cross on your behalf for the forgiveness of your sin and for eternal life! The clock is ticking and you’re running out of time to be rescued from the wrath to come! Please don’t wait! Ephesians 2:8-9: It is by Grace that we are saved through Faith… and this not of ourselves but it is a gift of God and not by works lest any should boast!>> |
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