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dmaestro
05-Jul-19, 11:14

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dmaestro
05-Jul-19, 11:31

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inhis_service
05-Jul-19, 12:38

Mainstream Media Lies Big Time
"The 10 Biggest Media Lies About Donald Trump"

www.newsmax.com

"Fake News: Three Mainstream Media Lies On Trump's First Day"

www.breitbart.com

"Counterpoint: Mainstream media lying about Trump"

www.visaliatimesdelta.com

"Mainstream media and Donald Trump"

This article discusses the mainstream media and Donald Trump, particularly the former's bias against the latter.

As with other conservatives, and likely more so, the Mainstream Media has waged a war against United States President Donald Trump. This has been to an extent probably not seen before, or at least in recent political history. A comparison of magazine covers between President Trump and Obama illustrate the media's opposition to President Trump.[1]

1 freebeacon.com

www.conservapedia.com
dmaestro
05-Jul-19, 13:08

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thumper
05-Jul-19, 13:24

DM
The basic difference between libel and slander is that libel is published defamation, while slander is fleeting, mostly verbal. In the court of law, both are considered defamation—that is, the communication of a false statement that harms the reputation of an individual, business, or group.
dmaestro
05-Jul-19, 13:27

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dmaestro
05-Jul-19, 13:38

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dmaestro
05-Jul-19, 13:55

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dmaestro
05-Jul-19, 14:02

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thumper
05-Jul-19, 14:06

DM
Cite the crimes that he's been found guilty of... If you can't then I strongly recommend that you change your tune. I won't allow this club to be used to promote incitement and defamation. I've allowed leeway for personal opinion but you're crossing the line from rhetoric to incitement and defamation.
inhis_service
05-Jul-19, 14:44

After President Trump's Second Full Term in Office
"Lou Dobbs: Donald Trump Will Be One of the Greatest Presidents in American History"

townhall.com

"Will Donald Trump go down as one of the greatest Presidents of all time?"

www.quora.com

"Ken Langone: Trump Could Turn Out to Be One of America's Best Presidents"

www.cnbc.com

"David Lynch Says Trump ‘Could Go Down as One of the Greatest Presidents in History’"

variety.com

"Trump: Already Our Best President"

m.huffpost.com

"20 Reasons Why Donald Trump Will Make the Best President, Ever."

todaysinfo.net
dmaestro
05-Jul-19, 15:27

He obviously can’t be found guilty of crimes yet because he is rich and protected. The GOP is stonewalling. He’s hiding his records.

This is a conservative club so go ahead and delete the thread. What’s important is 45% say he is guilty of impeachable offenses. You can’t censor that fact outside of this club.

When Trump is out of office I favor full prosecution to make an example of him.
thumper
05-Jul-19, 16:14

So he hasn't been convicted of or even charged with any crime? That would seem to be an important first step. Such details are only important in a 'conservative' club before making such statements?
inhis_service
05-Jul-19, 17:38

Why Do We Conservatives ALWAYS Have to Bring Up Due Process?
That's a hard one, Thumper!
dmaestro
05-Jul-19, 17:48

Trump has a battery of lawyers and the GOP is protecting him and blocking evidence. It’s like going after a teflon mob boss hiding evidence.

But the charges are credible. I think he has made himself such a target now with his outrageous acts that Democrats must noe expose him and prosecute him for the sake of the future history however long it takes. We can get all that evidence once he is defeated and loses his immunity, and then we need to go after him and his family relentlessly.
inhis_service
05-Jul-19, 18:23

"future history"?
So far history has not favored Socialism nor Communism with any legacy worth emulating, has it?
ace-of-aces
05-Jul-19, 18:56

Should Trump be impeached ?
www.msn.com
Remember: 63 million people voted for this guy, even knowing what he is. Remember, too, that his latest Gallup approval rating stands at 39 percent. Though no elected president since Eisenhower has polled that low at a similar point in his term, that figure still seems stunningly high.
As flagrantly awful a president as Trump has been, four in 10 Americans think he's doing a bang-up job. To overturn the will of that many people, especially in today's charged environment, is to fracture an already fractured union.
None of which is to say it shouldn't be done, but only to point out the consequences thereof. But again, the argument is academic. As noted, Trump will probably be impeached (though not removed). And the six in 10 of us who see his awfulness for what it is surely will exult. Which is fine so long as we realize that impeachment will very likely change very little of what actually ails America.
Perhaps that's as it should be.
One gets the sense sometimes that people think of impeachment as a magic trick. Abracadabra and presto! Trump disappears in a cloud of Cheetos dust, America is saved.
It's a great fantasy, but only that. Because Trump is not the problem, only a symptom. And America doesn't need to be saved. No, for its own mental and moral health, America needs to save itself, needs to clearly and emphatically reject what it has become. Impeachment does not do that.
Voting the awfulness out, does. Consider this new Congress, with its record number of women, including its first Native-American women, its first Muslim women and its youngest woman ever, this Congress that looks so much more like the country it serves. Consider the organizing, the canvassing, the fundraising, the putting lives on hold, the stop-complaining-about-it-and-getting-involved it took to produce this result. Then roll up your sleeves and forget about magic.
inhis_service
05-Jul-19, 19:37

Rolling Up Our Sleeves
Ace, your post gave me a lot to mull over, and honestly, I want to agree with you.

But as I rub my chin thinking why I can't agree with you, a few issues bother me - greatly.

Numero uno is this Congress's refusal, ineptitude, belligerence - not sure what adjective I should use.

A few posts back, and I'm not even sure which thread it was I asked about the INANE stance Congressional leaders have regarding the Border and illegal immigration issues. You didn't touch on this, and I'd like to ask why?

Trump has not addressed these issues neither, other than to stir up more discord and divide us apart even more. If he can bring N Korea to heel, why isn't he doing more to help heal America?

Another issue you didn't mention which is continuing to keep America divided is the blatent censorship by the Left against the Conservative voice. How can you excuse/ explain the attack in Portland by the ANTIFA demonstrators and the sweeping under the carpet by the media?

Speaking of which do you see, or don't you, how it is so slanted and, all in all, untruthful?

These are the ISSUES I perceive, and about which I believe America needs to be concerned about.
inhis_service
05-Jul-19, 20:47

"Feeling Lucky, Punk? Go Ahead, Make My Day"
"Why Democrats Would Be Insane To Impeach Donald Trump"

After his impeachment for lying about an affair, Bill Clinton's approval rating hit 73 percent. This should be a warning to Democrats.

When the dust settled from the impeachment of President Bill Clinton in 1999, his approval rating sat at an astounding 73 percent. That’s a note of caution to Democrats who believe that, having taken the House of Representatives, they should impeach Donald Trump.

The situation and times are not completely analogous, of course. Trump would probably be lucky to hit 73 percent approval in his own White House. But there are enough comparisons for this historical note to give Democrats serious pause.

The current calls for impeachment stem from U.S. prosecutors’ allegation that Trump directed his former attorney, Michael Cohen, to pay hush money to mistresses in what they say was a violation of campaign finance law. Assuming for a moment (although legal scholars disagree on this) that Trump did commit a campaign finance violation, or even a crime. Democrats, including likely incoming House Judiciary Committee Chair Jerry Nadler, say it would be sufficient grounds for impeachment.

But in the same breath, on a Sunday news show Nadler also said even if there is an impeachable offense, it doesn’t mean impeachment is a good idea. This brings us back to the Clinton comparison. Like Trump, Clinton’s troubles began with having a difficult time keeping his pants on. Also like Trump, lying about and trying to obfuscate an illicit tryst was eventually the high crime or misdemeanor that Republicans in the House in 1998 latched onto.

It is now, and was then, abundantly clear that Clinton lied about his affair with Monica Lewinski. Notwithstanding his “What does ‘is’ mean” argument, he almost certainly committed perjury. So what happened? How did his impeachment and eventual Senate acquittal balloon his approval to one of the highest levels ever measured?

The simplest answer is that while the American people did not believe Clinton, they also did not believe he had acted badly enough for Congress to overturn the results of a free and fair presidential election.

thefederalist.com



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