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inhis_service
24-Mar-21, 11:24

Open Borders CRISIS New White Elephant In DNC'S American Living Room
Incredible tragedy overrunning American people, and our Freedoms.

Immigration is NOT the issue here. Inane failure-doomed political policies as an attack on America is ballooning into a time bomb which is impossible to determine how much destruction if will eventually cause.

"Tucker: The country you grew up in tetters on its foundation"

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Who can offer any real dialogue about this issue and call out the American politicians who are responsible for bringing these poor freightened and mislead people to our country?
dmaestro
24-Mar-21, 12:59

www.google.com

There is no point in my discussing right wing propaganda here. Tucker is a well known Christian Nationalist and bigot.

There are no “open borders”. Trump didn’t solve the issue. Mexico and Central America now want more money to stop the flow. Right wingers want a “crisis” and support the nefarious groups claiming borders are “open” to kill immigration reform—as it still takes over 25 years to immigrate legally. This country is headed for conflict not solutions. Immigration seems to be the trigger Trumpers want for conflict so keep up the red meat.
softaire
24-Mar-21, 13:04

DM
The question is: can your refute anything Tucker says with any valid news source? What Tucker says is validated with video from the original source right there in front of you. Some of the damning reporting has been provided by a Democrat.

The remainder of your post is simply you and your constant mantra. THAT is the propaganda.
inhis_service
24-Mar-21, 13:04

Video Proof About Open Southern Border
"Distractions Everywhere"

rumble.com

DM'S narraitive only parroting the Official Narraitive of Joe Biden's broken Presidency!

How much longer do you think they can keep up the charade?
dmaestro
24-Mar-21, 13:26

Softaire
After all this time there is no point in looking for agreement on immigration—it’s simply a political weapon now. We won’t get anywhere—the very discussion is toxic. Any compromise is dead. The country is split. Biden is hammered from all sides but with our divisions has no control over the message desperate child immigrants get. It’s time to prepare for conflict.
dmaestro
24-Mar-21, 13:45

www.cato.org

Legal Immigration is broke—getting in line is a joke. www.cato.org You all want even less immigrants and won’t fix the problem or determine objectively how many immigrants we can sustain.

It’s sad we have desperate people and children at the border and no good plan except refugee camps in Mexico. That is what you Trumpers left. Now you blame Biden for “open borders”.

So—What is there to discuss? I see no possibility of getting anywhere.
dmaestro
24-Mar-21, 14:32

www.politico.com

I will offer this—it’s a pretty objective view of what is involved.

But keep in mind Obama deported more than Trump to try and get GOP support for fixing immigration, and all he got in return was endless demonization and Trump; and Dems actually lost Hispanic support as a result of efforts to compromise. Biden knows very well offering the GOP compromises will simply cause them to increase the attacks and that they have no intention of compromise with their favorite weapon of attack. The few GOP willing to compromise before won’t now because it’s a toxic issue.

Therefore since the link about the dilemma Biden faces above will be simply rejected as garbage by Trumpers there is just no point in any serious discussion here.
softaire
24-Mar-21, 15:16

So, all that for DM to say he cannot refute anything that Tucker says or shows in the videos. It is all true. The problem was created by the Biden administration from a situation that was under control.
ace-of-aces
25-Mar-21, 12:29

Where in the world is Rep. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez (AOC) now ?
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Where in the world is Rep. Alexandria Ocasio Cortez (AOC) now ?
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: "When these women tell me that they were put into a cell and that their sink was not working, and we tested the sink ourselves and the sink was not working, and they were told to drink out of a toilet bowl I believe them. I believe these women."

Congresswoman AOC testified under oath at the congress about inhumane treatment of migrants at the southern border. A woman in the audience fainted when she heard the inhumane treatment of migrants under American flag. Apparently, she was criticizing Trump's immigration policy.

At the first press conference today, Joe Biden claimed he had the solution to how to treat them humanely. Biden is delegating VP Harris to solve the migrant problem at the border. AOC should join forces with VP to solve the crisis which Democrats don't like to admit. First of all, she should visit the border again. History is repeating again and this time it is much worse than before.

Don't get me wrong because I myself is an immigrant though I came here legally. I wish Biden's plan to be successful so that we can live in peace and harmony with all the new migrants together.
dmaestro
25-Mar-21, 16:56

It’s not Biden’s fault people are told to rush the border now that Trump is gone and the countries want money to keep them off the border since Mexico could stop them.

This proves, as more than a decade of anti immigration propaganda from Trumpers like Softaire it’s obvious as I said in advance we will get nowhere. I got what I needed; proof nothing will change, so there is no point in trying to discuss immigration seriously. Like most of our disagreements power will decide.
softaire
25-Mar-21, 19:57

"... anti immigration propaganda from Trumpers like Softaire..."

I have given reason after reason why this Democrat policy is BAD for America and America citizens. You have given NO explanations of benefits to Americans. The Trump policy was working and border immigration was under control. There were no more surges.

The Biden administration is or has:

Restarted the catch and release program.
End the stay in Mexico program for asylum seekers.
Invited people to come to America.
Stopped wall construction.
Supported sanctuary cities and states.
Offered to pay for free health care for illegal aliens, Offered Covid-19 money to illegals.
Offered to keep unaccompanied minors in the country and not send them back to their families.
Said he will stop deportations.
Said he will create a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens.
Said we should make it a non-crime to enter the country illegally.

These policies:
Will increase the low pay supply of workers which will eliminate jobs for American workers. It will reduce the pay rate for low income workers.

Allow covid positive people to spread throughout the country.
Allow gangs to regroup and congregate in our cities.
Allow increased rape, assault, theft, arson, and other violence.

Allow increased human trafficking... when these you people do get into the country, they are indebted to the cartels and subject to their demands. When told to do something, they must do it or their family members (here or at home) will be killed.

Allow increased drug trafficking... which are killing many thousands of Americans each year.
And, they cost huge amounts of money to house, clothe, and feed detainees plus relocate them.

So, HOW does this help America?
What are the offsetting benefits?



thumper
25-Mar-21, 20:26

DM
You sure spend a lot of time talking at people you claim is a waste of time to associate with.
inhis_service
26-Mar-21, 10:46

@Softaire
Good concise post laying out all of the issues, problems and identifying exactly who is to blame and why continuing to ignore these issues is only going to hurt the American people.
dmaestro
26-Mar-21, 11:32

Softaire
It was a good experiment for a little while, but it’s obvious now the studies showing we are just too divided to have serious discussions were valid. We just won’t ever agree even on what are facts and so it’s time to move on from that realizing that is how it is. I will toss in alternative views here every so often but after the pandemic and then the claims Biden lost misinformation I am done; no more serious attempts by me on most topics, it’s just a waste of time. All I have to do is read right wing news and I know what you all will say, so just eliminate the middleman.
softaire
26-Mar-21, 11:51

DM
I am glad you will toss in an alternative view every once in awhile. I thought we were having a serious discussion. I was. I am. Immigration policy is one of the most serious issues facing the country. How we handle it determines if we survive.

This sounds like capitulation. You have NO alternative suggestions as to how Biden's policies help the country? I'm not surprised... because they don't. The Biden administration has trashed the Trump policies which were working, at least better than previously. NOW, immigration is a catastrophe for all concerned. It is a nightmare for everybody. They cancelled what was working and replaced it with ??? the "Biden Plan?

But, I think this IS his plan. He and the Far Left are intent on one party rule so much so that they are willing to destroy the country in order to achieve it. Each kid let into the country will become a Democrat voter once HR1 passes.

I gave you an opportunity to have a serious discussion about immigration policy. You say we are too different to have that discussion. And, that discussion is a waste of time.

Your words are here for all to see.
dmaestro
26-Mar-21, 12:08

Softaire
www.google.com

Even before this club was established to attempt better dialogue across divisions it was known from extensive earlier research it probably would not work only increase divisions. But it was worth a shot.

So thanks all for confirming the research. The country hasn’t been this divided since the last civil war, and demographics plus information overload and echo chambers indicates it will get more so. That is reality.

Divisions over immigration have grown and that one issue is what made Trumpism. So that is a totally weaponized issue we will never, ever agree on. It’s a total waste of time. More and more every issue will be like that.
inhis_service
26-Mar-21, 12:15

LIVE: We the People Stand For Border Security
Watch and listen to people who have been living on the Southern Border tell you what is going on.

Watch real reports of the atrocities and molestation and raping of women and children which our DO NOTHING Government is allowing TODAY!

And if you think because you don't live on the Border you're safe - HA!

youtu.be

ALL AMERICANS ARE IN DANGER
dmaestro
26-Mar-21, 12:57

Nonsense. Oath Keepers are right wing insurrectionists. They are extremist liars: www.google.com

Cartels? You conservatives started the stupid war on drugs which like prohibition here which built our mafia and inner city crime created the cartels and narco terrorism. You conservatives under Reagan even fed drugs to the inner cities for profit! ips-dc.org.
inhis_service
26-Mar-21, 13:46

DM'S Misinformation Platform Is Seriously Boring
Is that why the Border Patrol is under a Gag Order, and why the American Lagacy Media is being prohibited from actually reporting on the situation there?!
dmaestro
26-Mar-21, 14:18

Your statement are not accurate. m.huffpost.com

The only thing Biden changed from Trump so far was changing Trump’s emergency use Title 42 from an obscure 1944 health law using COVID as a pretext to block all immigrants, which simply created refugee camps on the Mexican border, by following normal practice not to deport unaccompanied children without review first due to the risks they face on the Mexican side. This coincides with the annual surge and misinformation given to immigrants that Biden has opened the border. Instead of uniting the GOP actually encourages the migration by claiming the border is open. Since you all only want to push propaganda not figure out how we can get Mexico to stem the flow and keep the children safe by not just throwing them back across the border there is nothing to discuss. I expect now every issue will end up at the same impasse and you all are in lockstep agreement on misinformation so don’t waste my time.
inhis_service
26-Mar-21, 14:35

First Hand Eyewitness Testimony PROVES DM Lies
"Exclusive: Border Agent Gives Inside Account of Overcrowded Facilities"
.March 25, 2021

The family-unit holding cells smell like urine and vomit. Fights break out in the unaccompanied-minor cells. Scabies, lice, the flu, and COVID-19 run rampant.

Up to 80 individuals are squeezed into each 24- by 30-foot cell, and there aren’t enough mattresses for everyone. Sheets of plastic divide the rooms.

"Any diseases that are in there, it’s being kept in there, like a petri dish. The smell is overwhelming,” a Border Patrol agent said, describing the conditions in a facility in south Texas. The agent, Carlos (not his real name), spoke to The Epoch Times on condition of anonymity, for fear of repercussions.

Border Patrol agents on the front lines are getting so frustrated that they’re now risking their livelihoods to reveal what’s really going on in the illegal immigrant processing facilities.

One or two agents are left to control 300 to 500 people during a shift. No agent wants to report physical or sexual assaults between the aliens because they’ll get blamed for “letting it happen.” They’re also forced to separate a child from an extended family member because he or she is not a biological parent.

The number of unaccompanied minors—children under 18 who arrive without a parent—is buckling the system. The law requires Border Patrol to prioritize unaccompanied minors and transfer them to the Department of Health and Human Services within 72 hours.

"We’re getting them out of here as quickly as possible, but we are so overwhelmed right now,” Carlos said. “It used to be easy to get them out in 72 hours. Not anymore. They’re staying here for 10, 12 days. It’s horrible.”

So far this fiscal year (from Oct. 1, 2020), Border Patrol has apprehended more than 29,000 unaccompanied children crossing the border illegally. In all of fiscal 2020, just over 33,000 were apprehended, according to Customs and Border Protection (CBP) statistics.

This year’s numbers are on a trajectory to surpass the 2019 crisis numbers, when 80,634 minors were apprehended.

m.theepochtimes.com
inhis_service
26-Mar-21, 14:57

America Under Siege By DNC Bankrupt Politics and Drug Cartels!
"Rep. Pat Fallon to Newsmax TV: Biden Handing Border to Drug Cartels"
19 Mar 2021

The Biden administration's open border policies are handing control of the U.S. southern border to the Mexican drug cartels, according to Rep. Pat Fallon, R-Texas, on Newsmax TV.

"Ask yourself this question: Do you want the federal government to oversee and secure the border, or do you want the Mexican drug cartels to run it?" Fallon told Friday's "Spicer & Co."

"Because right now the Mexican drug cartels de facto are controlling our southern border."

Fallon, elected to Texas' 4th Congressional District northeast of Dallas, said opening our borders to mass migration is unlike the old 1800s America where the conditions were far more difficult.

"It's very clear that you can't have both an open border and a welfare state; you just can't," Fallon told host Sean Spicer and guest host Mercedes Schlapp.

"When you have five million people in the world trying to get [into] this country legally and we're allowing people to cut the line and mass unlawful migration, it's un-American."

And the Trump administration had curbed illegal immigration, had the numbers manageable, along with a Remain in Mexico policy where legitimate asylum seekers did not merely get released in the country before their official hearings, Fallon continued.

"Let's be really clear: It's the Biden border crisis," he said, adding he is a "proud, deplorable Neanderthal," references to Hillary Clinton's smearing of Republican Trump supporters and Biden's quip against Texas for lifting face mask mandates as "Neanderthal thinking."

Meanwhile, the Biden administration is permitting COVID-19 positive migrants to enter the country without being detained, tested or quarantined, Fallon lamented.

"Apparently they're not following the science; it definitely makes no sense whatsoever," he said. "They're just trying to appease their radical progressive left his base at the expense of the American people.

"This is not leadership. This is weakness. This is not putting America first."

Ultimately, Democrats might be hoping amnesty for illegal immigrants might add to their voting base, but moderate Texans are turning to the Republican Party in protest, according to Fallon.

"This is one of the reasons why in Texas down in the border regions, Americans of Hispanic descent are trending heavily to the Republican Party," he said. "They're sick of one-party rule and this craziness that the left is putting out there.

"We have to do what's in the best interest of our country, and that is protecting the American citizens, because if you're not safe, you're not free. And we understand that our greatest calling as elected officials is to make sure that people are safe."

www.newsmax.com
inhis_service
27-Mar-21, 13:41

Modern Day Conspiracy Which Is IN YOUR FACE
The American Lagacy Media and the American Democratic Party will tell you that Southern Border is under "control". HA!

They're lying to you and me!

"LIVE: Ted Cruz & GOP visits Texas migrant facility amid border crisis.

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Watch real live first hand accounts of the horrendous situation brought to America courtesy of the Biden/ Harris Administration!

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inhis_service
31-Mar-21, 16:27

Progressive Policies By biden's S Border Allowing Classrooms and Teachers
"San Diego Teachers to Provide In-Person Instruction to Migrant Children before Public School Students"
March 30, 2021

www.nationalreview.com

While American children stay home!
dmaestro
31-Mar-21, 16:38

www.google.com

And just how are you going to school homeless refugee children housed in a shelter remotely? You can’t! And furthermore in person classes are coming soon as vaccines are deployed. Bringing kids back has NOTHING to do with Migrants. I look forward to the day there are so few of you we can tell you where to shove the hate!
inhis_service
01-Apr-21, 12:32

Border Crisis TRUTHS DM Is NOT DISCUSSING
The American Republic was never founded on the principle that the Government was going to become a half-way house for the World's unfortunates. The MAIN FOCUS of the Government was and IS TO ENSURE THE SAFETY AND PEACEFUL TRANQUILLITY of OUR CITIZENS.

On the other hand your Globalist United Nations push to implement THEIR AGENDA into OUR SOCIETY FITS perfectly with their plans to OVERTHROW THIS COUNTRY.

Seeing as this is YOUR AGNEDA AS WELL, YOU'VE admitted as being an enemy of America, MY ENEMY.



dmaestro
01-Apr-21, 12:57

I am fine with being your enemy. We are on opposite sides of the culture war.

America was founded by immigrants and has been a refuge for immigrants since its founding. Humans have fled dangers throughout history. Someone like you would have turned short term refugees like Moses, David and the family of Jesus into the authorities. Thanks for illustrating why right wing evangelicals are losing traction: www.google.com

softaire
01-Apr-21, 14:05

DM
Those kids should NOT be in the San Diego convention center.

They should not be crowded into cages like rats on the floor at the cells they were put into by Biden.

They should have been sent back where they came from, like Trump would do.
YOU and your progressive friends have cause a lot of unnecessary misery and expense.
You and Biden should rot in jail together.
inhis_service
01-Apr-21, 14:59

<< America was founded by immigrants / David and the family of Jesus >>
What mindless nonsense!

Neither of these issues have anything to do with the situation today, and neither of these "platforms" have any bearing on how America has been made the laughing stock/ target of our true enemies who are ready to stick us . . .

Who, besides you (acting like a troll) would dare to speak such fertilizer to the American people today. (And on this Club paltform)

Another example why your comments should be ignored - completely inane and without substance in an intelligent conversation.
dmaestro
01-Apr-21, 15:26

www.google.com

We see the total lack of compassion by conservatives on full display; just as we see hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths don’t matter to you as much as your freedom to burn masks. Biden isn’t asking for these children w/o adults to come. But when they arrive alone we don’t just send them back to Mexico—that is inhumane, contrary to policy and inhumane. There are enough people willing to sponsor these children once they get processed. Why shouldn’t volunteers be able to teach these kids? There is a call out right now for volunteers to help at the border with the children.

You all are from Mars.
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