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dmaestro 04-Feb-22, 18:25	Bothsidesism theweek.com One way of looking at the growing divisions.
pawntificator 04-Feb-22, 23:16	More made-up fake words? Maybe I'll read it, maybe I won't.
mo-oneandmore 05-Feb-22, 03:22	Nothing You apparently didn't read Dmaestro's "Bothsidsism" link, Nothing.. It was a fair and unbiased opinion, and the "new word" the writer developed was meaningful and appropriate.
pawntificator 05-Feb-22, 23:30	I read the first paragraph and it was already unfair and biased. I stopped after "when one of our two major parties remains in thrall to a demagogue who provoked an insurrectionary riot against the national legislature to keep himself in power after losing a presidential election." If you think this is fair and unbiased opinion that I have correctly categorized you long ago and you will stay in your pigeon hole, little pigeon. Be gone from my sight now, I do not care to entertain your nonsense.
mo-oneandmore 07-Feb-22, 06:25	nothing Your command to me: "Be gone from my sight now, I do not care to entertain your nonsense". Does this mean you want to kick me out of this club?
pawntificator 07-Feb-22, 07:03	What? Who are you? Why are you talking to me?
dmaestro 10-Feb-22, 09:51	www.wnd.com In fact, after all these years of mockery by the right wingers here, the polls show a majority now agree with my assessment we are likely just too different. Even right wing sites like WND admit it. I suspect conservative denial was based on their theory they will easily defeat their enemies and win their culture war. Now they start to see we just won’t accept their “facts”, minority tyranny or their values. Unless centrism gets traction it’s probably over.
redfoxrising 10-Feb-22, 10:39	Please do not use Subject username This is not a Q and A thread. Do not ask questions like do you want me to kick you out of this club? I will kick out any user out that asks this question again. If the thread topic is not something you want to discuss, do not discuss it or troll others... Trolls will be removed by this moderator if I find them in our threads... I have read some personal attacks and if you have made one in any thread I would appreciate that you remove them yourself. I'm on vacation and I will remove them or kick any user out of the club that I find with comments of a personal attack against any other game knot club member currently in this club or who has left or been removed.
dmaestro 10-Feb-22, 11:05	The right wing claim that Trump really won the election which justified J6 is propaganda. But many Republicans believe it. There is and will be NO bridging that gap. We are too different and it’s time to face reality Discussions related to that topic can and will go nowhere. Rejection of a more centrist view by the right who purges anyone who criticizes Trump because they think Trump won is a given. I just posted bothsidesism as a better approach. I have no illusions it is realistic given the basic differences—it’s just what could have been. The USA is in a cold civil war and I am confident it will get hot; as I am Nothing and I will remain enemies and have zero respect for each other. That’s not an attack it is reality!
dmaestro 10-Feb-22, 11:29	There are some things that are just fate. The American inability to resolve long growing differences is one of them. The American system is the oldest modern semi democracy and our system age and failure to modernize and fix the basic issues that led to the first civil war is showing: nypost.com. The biggest American failure,history will show, was believing it’s own myths. In fact: We are only 19th in terms of happiness and a flawed democracy ranked only 26th. But we criticize and mock better countries and better systems rather than emulate them. Like other historic failureS America’s day of reckoning seems fated and is coming. Pretend all you want righties…
softaire 10-Feb-22, 17:19	DM is the least serious person in these threads, but the biggest troll. His goal is to see if he can make enemies between each of us all by insulting, mocking, belittling, name-calling, and telling everyone how bad we are. He would love to prove himself right and it has become his goal in life. Personally, I think that a fairly low-energy goal. And he has not had much success considering he has been at it for years. However, he was able to drive Stalhandske out of two clubs.
thumper 10-Feb-22, 18:27	The only people DM is making enemies with are between his little band of hard core progs and everyone else. I say knock yourself out.
dmaestro 10-Feb-22, 20:08	www.yahoo.com Well we caught one of your co-conspirators preparing for the right wing coup. Many more of you “peaceful” types out I am sure. Mock me all you want. It won’t change what is going to happen. I can’t fix it, it’s fate, but I can have the satisfaction of saying it before it became mainstream and later being proves correct, despite ridicule, that we are just too different. And we clearly are. I suspect you know that and are just blowing smoke.
thumper 10-Feb-22, 20:20	That must be very satisfying. Now what?
dmaestro 10-Feb-22, 22:04	Other than warning people to prepare for conflict, just watch. Nothing much can be done—it’s gone too far. Only 21% of those ages 18-29, our future, think our democratic system is safe. Watching the chickens come home to roost is what is left.
thumper 10-Feb-22, 22:20	Let me get this straight; Your mission is to cast about preaching to any hard leftist insisting we're too different and they should arm up and prepare for conflict?
mo-oneandmore 11-Feb-22, 04:33	Red Your: "Please don't use subject's user name". Is "You" okay when it's reasonably obvious who it's directed to? See "Y'all" 05-Feb-22, 23:30
redfoxrising 11-Feb-22, 05:33	You'all You Trolls Personal attacks The point of that was not to ask The Mod, "Does this mean you want to kick me out of this club?" It was not directed to myself, If YOU want to ask again,"I will kick out any user out that asks this question again." RECAP of my post Please do not use Subject username This is not a Q and A thread. Do not ask questions like do you want me to kick you out of this club? I will kick out any user out that asks this question again. If the thread topic is not something you want to discuss, do not discuss it or troll others... Trolls will be removed by this moderator if I find them in our threads... I have read some personal attacks and if you have made one in any thread I would appreciate that you remove them yourself. I'm on vacation and I will remove them or kick any user out of the club that I find with comments of a personal attack against any other game knot club member currently in this club or who has left or been removed.
pawntificator 11-Feb-22, 23:10	Yeah, and my only rule is do not report a post unless it breaks the rules. Oh, and my only other rule is don't break the rules. I agree with dmaestro in a philosophical sense. The USA was the first great democratic republic. We blazed an amazing trail and many other countries have since followed with varying success. We should adopt success and cull failures as we move forward, progressing through time as is inevitable. We should look at the constitutions of all current successful countries and examine the elements that are similar between them that make them successful.

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