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stalhandske 05-Mar-22, 08:56	Softaire <You drew a political conclusion without bothering to actually think about what she said. This is a common practice among liberals. > You are mistaken, and not understanding that that was just my first reaction! I certainly bothered about what she was saying - quite a lot (as I already indicated). You are too hasty! I gave you my first critical impression and told you that I was not impressed by the reputation of that organisation. I intend to look at what she said in more detail (apart from her accusations). By contrast, I have received no response to the set of references that I base my opinion of. All I have received is ad hominem insults plus direct lies about what I have said in the past.
softaire 05-Mar-22, 10:13	Stalh "What in the video do you object to, and why?".
thumper 05-Mar-22, 11:00	Softie Stål makes it political and then states that: <You are mistaken, and not understanding that that was just my first reaction!> <I gave you my first critical impression...> And then tells you that you are making it political and you are being too hasty. You just don't understand.
stalhandske 05-Mar-22, 12:59	Thumper and Softaire <Stål makes it political > I don't expect you to explain that curious statement when the truth is just the opposite. You seem to prefer to just exchange idiotic posts rather than - even once - discuss what I have presented. <What in the video do you object to, and why?> I have explained what I object to so far in the video. You have not said a word about my frames of reference. In such a case, why should I open up the discussion further when I know beforehand that all I say will in any case be neglected.
softaire 05-Mar-22, 17:29	Stall If I sent you a link to a book published by Random House and it was a book about Conservative policies, it seems that you would write back and say to me: The book is about conservative / right wing policies and Random House is known to publish books about conservative and right wing policies. Those are political views. Many people think these conservative / right wing policies are bad. I can't discuss it. Does it occur to you that you have not discussed ANY of the questions or statements in the video. You have NOT answered my questions. Either you are unable to understand what I have asked or what the video said. OR, you are trolling me. I don't care. But, you certainly have chosen NOT to discuss issues.
stalhandske 05-Mar-22, 21:06	Softaire You are mistaken once again. I would not at all behave the way you envisage. First of all, I certainly do not think conservative/right wing is necessarily bad! It has exactly the same ad hoc status with me as has liberal/left wing writings. I really wish you would understand this, because it is genuine! What I want to rid myself of is the political bias (left or right) that seems to infiltrate all issues in USA today. I am striving at the issue itself, the unbiased facts of it. <Does it occur to you that you have not discussed ANY of the questions or statements in the video. You have NOT answered my questions.> Does it occur to you that I actually HAVE started to answer your questions, even some of the questions in the video? And done so despite your unsubstantiated personal attacks. I have also shown you - with open cards - precisely what my opinions of the race issue is based upon. Have you read any of that material? If you have, you should know quite a lot of my view. <Either you are unable to understand what I have asked or what the video said. OR, you are trolling me. I don't care. But, you certainly have chosen NOT to discuss issues> How many times do I have to assure you that despite your aggression I have tried to start responding to this issue by specifying my sources. You have not with a word addressed my sources, possibly because you have ignored them. In such a case, how do you think I would be willing to continue this? A sincere discussion requires sincere consideration by both parties of the views of the other.
pawntificator 06-Mar-22, 03:33	Sincerity? ha ha.
stalhandske 06-Mar-22, 08:15	Bingo <Sincerity? ha ha. > Well, if that isn't trolling I am Napoleon. The only motive of that is to make my sincere response laughable and to intervene in the exchange with diluting nonsense. Typical trolling. But not surprising of course. When it walks like a troll, writes like a troll and smells like a troll, it most likely is....a troll. Bingo!
mo-oneandmore 06-Mar-22, 08:48	stalh Softee's comments suggest that he thinks he can read your mind, professor. And as for those conservative policies book, soft: If it was published a few decades ago, it would be almost unrecognizable if it was compared to today's alt-right trumpism conservatism.
pawntificator 06-Mar-22, 10:02	I'm not trolling you. I'm genuinely shocked to laughter. I probably shouldn't have expressed my reaction, but alas. Free speech on the internet. What a concept.
stalhandske 06-Mar-22, 12:13	Not trolling? What else is a cynical ha ha and an obvious doubt about me being sincere? Without any explanation, of course. So....just TROLLING! But in this club it seems that even the moderators are allowed to troll and insult club members.
pawntificator 08-Mar-22, 05:18	It's not an insult just because I have very little respect for you. Grow up. If I insulted you your head would probably explode.
stalhandske 08-Mar-22, 05:59	I cannot believe you are serious. I better not say anything.
stalhandske 08-Mar-22, 06:16	I won't remain member of a club that engages an idiot as moderator. Bye!
pawntificator 08-Mar-22, 23:57	What a surprise. Stalhanske leaves a club because someone doesn't agree with him.
pawntificator 10-Mar-22, 00:10	Dang, I should have banned stalhandske while I was still a moderator. That would have been right in line with the free speech aspect of this club,
ptitroque 16-May-22, 14:19	nothing exploded "I should have banned stalhandske while I was still a moderator. That would have been right in line with the free speech aspect of this club," Strange assessment ! Ban someone on behalf of the free speech looks strange ! But I'm not American, so that I probably miss something !
pawntificator 18-May-22, 23:49	I never had to ban Stalhandske. I only have to intimate that I disagree with him and he flees.
mo-oneandmore 22-May-22, 17:08	Nothing And thanks for not banning me yet, Nothing. Mo
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