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 Smithsonian's Cover-Up Of The Ancient Giantsyoutu.be Timothy Alberino and others have been discovering the Vatican long history of covering up the giant's record in South America. stillnessinthestorm.com My intention for beginning this thread is for discussion on these cover-ups and related matters. Each pertinent and honest objection (Of which I am sure will be several) shall be addressed. However, multiple unanswered posts can not be dealt with, and therefore, will not be tolerated. Such mass postings will simply be deleted. Free speech means unpopular (or censored issues) will be given a platform on this Club. Thank you for your consideration and sensitivity regarding this matter. |
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Why The Cover Up? youtu.be |
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Can you please post Im curious, but want to know what you’re talking about precisely |
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Your World View Is The Foundation Of Your Reality! "The Church Scientific" Brian Baxter, who is a strong proponent of Darwinian evolution has defined the concept of worldview in the following way: "A worldview embodies a specific understanding of reality, based upon presuppositions that are regarded by its exponents as, at least, reasonable, and, more boldly, as firmly established or even indubitable. From these presuppositions a synoptic account is developed of the basic features of reality, encompassing the human and non-human realms, and of how they relate to each other: which are fundamental, which derivative; which are fugitive, which permanent; which have value, which do not."[i] [i] Brian Baxter, A Darwinian Worldview: Sociobiology, Environmental Ethics and the Work of Edward O. Wilson, Ashgate Publishing, August 2007. Page 1. thechurchscientific.weebly.com In order to begin the discussion of giants and a Smithsonian cover up I will first establish the premise that the Biblical narrative has established the source or origins for the giants. This premise of Biblical giants begins in Genesis 6:1 - 2. "And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose." This unnatural union of fallen angels with the daughters of men here identified as "sons of god" have mistakenly been identified as the off spring of Adam's son, Seth. The sons from Cain are mistakenly identified as being the cause for the "corruption" which spread throughout the world. And the Church has mistakenly taught that this was the reason God sent the flood. "Who Are the Sons of God and Daughters of Men in Genesis 6:1-5?" www.ligonier.org However this interpretation of the Biblical text fails for two counts at least. One is that the word used for "sons of men" is elsewhere used in the Bible where it would have been impossible to have been the offspring of Seth of Genesis. Secondly, the Flood did not end mankind's sin and rebellion. It continues today. If God saw rather the corruption of the earth as the corruption of the bloodlines of man through the sexual union of the fallen angels saving only the untainted bloodline of Noah and his family that would make more sense. Also there is the case where God commanded Joshua and his descendants to "destroy" all of the inhabitants of Canaan including children and women. It was because of the tainted bloodlines there. Or the giants. Especially in light of the Lord Jesus's warning in the New Testament regarding the sign of His Second Advent. He said that it would be like it was in the days of Noah. This means that men would again be meddling with the genetics of mankind bloodlines. "BLOODLINES OF THE NEPHILIM -- A BIBLICAL STUDY" beginningandend.com With the rise of trans-humanism and genetic splicing of humans with computer technology that would qualify as the fulfillment of this prophecy. Especially if fallen angels are again working with mankind to build a superman as Karl Marx envisioned. Not ready to get into specifics yet, because I am still establishing the fact that the world views which once universally taught that there were giant beings on the earth have all been discarded in favor of the scientific world view which relegates this idea as fanciful and mythic. Ancient civilizations all have stories about giants and super beings with remarkable physical and mental abilities. The Greek's the the Roman's gods could very well have been Nephilims who they immortalized in their legends and in their idol worship. But to arrive in our modern world as we have without any "evidence" of these beings there would have been a concerted and definite plan to first discard ancient lore as mere legends and then to eliminate and keep from the historical record any trace of any physical evidence (bones) of these amazing beings. This was imperative or else the modern Darwinian world view would have been impossible. |
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Ihs “... establishing the fact that the world views which once universally taught that there were giant beings on the earth have all been discarded in favor of the scientific world view which relegates this idea as fanciful and mythic.” Of course they have. We use science, not myth, these days to understand the world. You don’t need to ‘establish this.’ Show me evidence of giants and a Smithsonian coverup. |
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Hopefully you will not be as dismissive about this evidence as I fear you will. The only available "evidence" are numerable articles and references from news reports of our recent past. There are also skeletons and such in other countries which we could discuss, hopefully. "Apparently, in 1883 the Smithsonian, a United States government/military led organization at the time, sent a team of archaeologists to South Charleston Mound. According to the official report, the team discovered a number of giant skeletons ranging from 7 to 9 feet tall. Some of them had a "compressed or flat-head type" which would resemble similar skeletal characteristics to those found in Egypt and South America (source). www.grahamhancock.com Whether or not this is "fake news" is highly debatable, as there is a lot of evidence to suggest it's not." www.collective-evolution.com "The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America The Missing Skeletons And The Great Smithsonian Cover Up" The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America by Richard J. Dewhurst Book Summary: A study of the substantial evidence for a former race of giants in North America and its 150-year suppression by the Smithsonian Institution • Shows how thousands of giant skeletons have been found, particularly in the Mississippi Valley, as well as the ruins of the giants’ cities • Explores 400 years of giant finds, including newspaper articles, first person accounts, state historical records, and illustrated field reports • Reveals the Stonehenge-era megalithic burial complex on Catalina Island with over 4,000 giant skeletons, including kings more than 9 feet tall • Includes more than 100 rare photographs and illustrations of the lost evidence Drawing on 400 years of newspaper articles and photos, first person accounts, state historical records, and illustrated field reports, Richard J. Dewhurst reveals not only that North America was once ruled by an advanced race of giants but also that the Smithsonian has been actively suppressing the physical evidence for nearly 150 years. He shows how thousands of giant skeletons have been unearthed at Mound Builder sites across the continent, only to disappear from the historical record. He examines other concealed giant discoveries, such as the giant mummies found in Spirit Cave, Nevada, wrapped in fine textiles and dating to 8000 BCE; the hundreds of red-haired bog mummies found at sinkhole “cenotes” on the west coast of Florida and dating to 7500 BCE; and the ruins of the giants’ cities with populations in excess of 100,000 in Arizona, Oklahoma, Alabama, and Louisiana. Dewhurst shows how this suppression began shortly after the Civil War and transformed into an outright cover-up in 1879 when Major John Wesley Powell was appointed Smithsonian director, launching a strict pro-evolution, pro-Manifest Destiny agenda. He also reveals the 1920s’ discovery on Catalina Island of a megalithic burial complex with 6,000 years of continuous burials and over 4,000 skeletons, including a succession of kings and queens, some more than 9 feet tall--the evidence for which is hidden in the restricted-access evidence rooms at the Smithsonian. www.freebooksget.com |
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Newspaper accounts Big Buried Secrets: Giant Skeletons and the Smithsonian Micah HanksJuly 31, 2013 Update: Based on my own research into large skeletons recounted in Smithsonian reports, science journals, and newspaper articles, particularly those dating back to the late 19th and early 20th centuries, my views about whether these human remains can be called “giants”, especially without becoming associated with fringe, pseudoscientific ideas about their possible origins as a separate race of giant beings, have hardened, leaning toward greater skepticism with time. I recommend that readers please view this article, which documents more fully some of my current views on the subject. The question has long been asked: have giant skeletons been discovered throughout the Americas, and if so, is the Smithsonian Institute in Washington actively seeking to cover up those discoveries? Admittedly, while there is actually some legitimate historical information that may have to do with discoveries of this kind (which we will examine shortly), in modern times we would be hard pressed to explain why there are so few–if any–credible specimens that appear to depict humanoids of large enough proportions to qualify for being actual giants, let alone those which are kept from public view for clandestine reasons. The obvious skeptical assumption would be that this is simply because no such specimens exist. However, this lack of evidence, in the mind of the more conspiracy-minded among us, has more to do with a vast coverup than the actual non-existence of giants in ancient times. A number of researchers have argued that evidence for this can be found within a minority of “credible” cases that exist mostly in nineteenth century newspaper articles. Herein, of course, lies a big part of the problem: obviously, while we cannot rule out as hoaxes every instance where a newspaper reported the discovery of large, seemingly human remains prior to the 1930s, we must acknowledge nonetheless that journalists took much greater liberties with the facts in those days. Newspaper hoaxes were actually very common in the nineteenth century, with renowned writers the likes of Mark Twain even admitting to the use of journalism hoaxes for politically-driven satire. If anything, even the “good” reports of anomalous remains that turn up in old newspaper accounts should be taken with more than just a grain of salt. This point was brought up in a recent blog by skeptical researcher Jason Colavito, who took a shot at tackling the mystery of giant skeleton conspiracies and the Smithsonian Institute by exposing what he sees as the faulty logic of the conspiracy argument: The “reports”—from old newspapers—are assumed true [by conspiracy theorists], so the fact that no such remains exist (or ever existed) at the Smithsonian is now proof of a cover-up. The claim that the Smithsonian had the skeletons of giants, incidentally, does not appear in the literature of the nineteenth century, when these giant bones were allegedly consigned to the museum; presumably, the Biblical literalists of the day would have made as much of them as they did of the Cardiff Giant, and yet it was not so. In fact, as early as 1865 the Smithsonian published a document by Ducrotay de Blainville, following Cuvier, attributing “giant” humanoid bones to mastodons. Colavito goes on to note that there “should be some record in the Smithsonian materials of these alleged bones,” particularly during a period in history like the mid-to-late nineteenth century, when belief in the existence of giants might have been taken for granted. “I find it interesting that I can track down no claim of missing giant bones from the Smithsonian,” Covalito concludes, “until the rise of the modern creationist and alternative history movements in the middle twentieth century, when suddenly Victorian yellow journalism became proof of biblical truths.” Colavito is correct in asserting that there are no indications in the historic record where large “anomalous skeletons” have gone missing from the Smithsonian. However, this does not mean that such gigantic remains were never found at all. In contrast, one commenter on Covalito’s post, Eric Johns, offered an example from 1911, where researchers named Pugh and Hart had found the remains of large, red haired humans at Sunset Cave close to Lovelock, Nevada. The remains found there were said to be between 6.5 and just over seven feet tall, and some of the remains were shipped to the Smithsonian Institute by L.L. Loud, an archaeologist with the University of California, one year later.”These notes are still on digital file at the Hearst Museum of Anthropology,” Johns shared, “listed under reference number 544, An Anthropological Expedition of 1913.” But interestingly, Pugh and Hart, while releasing the majority of the remains to the Smithsonian, also managed to keep a number of the strange artifacts and bones they found, including several skulls, which Johns says remain today at the Humboldt Museum in Winnemucca, Nevada. The boxes obtained by the Smithsonian, however, cannot be accounted for so easily: [The University of California] seems to have misplaced the skeletons, yet the other material is still there and on display in their exhibits. The same can be said of the Smithsonian, who still use some of Loud’s artifacts for their Southwest exhibit at the National Museum of the American Indian. Again, no giant skeletons to be found in their exhibits or catalog. Responding to John’s comment, Colavito wrote: If 6.5 feet is a “giant,” that makes my grandfather, at 6’6″, Goliath. While unusual for their era, these sizes are not unheard of for human beings and are therefore neither shocking nor supernatural. The skeptic in me would agree with Covalito that, indeed, it is not impossible (or even all that unordinary) in modern times to find a person of similar stature to the “giants” discussed by Johns in his commentary. Maybe this wouldn’t necessarily constitute an “anomaly” to assume such persons existed in America several hundreds of years or more ago. However, debating whether the size of these specimens fits the criteria for being “giants” or not is an exercise that misses the greater point entirely: that an independent museum managed to maintain record of the remains discovered at Sunset Cave, while the Smithsonian and University of California apparently did not. Had the folks on the receiving end of this odd shipment to the Smithsonian simply been exercising extreme incompetence, or was there some other reason for the “loss” of certain parts of the shipment? This case wouldn’t have to involve human remains of large stature in order call into question why the Smithsonian would misplace portions of the batch shipment, while maintaining others for display. In other words, the mystery has as much to do with the misplacement of a discovery as it does the claims of “giant” bodies being what were actually uncovered. Also, most modern skeptics would likely look at the rather unimpressive estimated height of 6’6″ skeletons in the Pugh and Hart case, and use this as an argument against the existence of giants in American prehistory altogether. At very least, they might use it to bolster the assertion that conspiracy theorists, creationists, and the downright gullible simply exaggerate the details of “giant” discoveries, so as to cater better to the fantastic stories that such “researchers” would seek to promote. Colavito is right to assert that a 6’6″ individual is “neither shocking nor supernatural.” He is probably right again when he states that he could find no mention of missing giant bones in the nineteenth century, thus suggesting that the conspiracy assertions are a more recent phenomenon. What cannot be denied, however, are the historical discoveries of giant skeletons much larger than those discovered at Sunset Cave in 1911. Records for these discoveries still exist today, and are available in the public record, along with detailed descriptions. But these accounts won’t be found in any questionable newspaper accounts from more than a century ago, or even in the hearsay and speculation of the finest alternative history buffs. Instead, what may be the very best evidence of curiously large skeletons from America’s past were published more than a century ago by the very target of the so-called conspiracies: The Smithsonian Institute. In the Twelfth Annual Report from the Bureau of Ethnology to the Secretary of the Smithsonian, published in 1894, Cyrus Thomas and Thomas Powell of the Bureau of Ethnology wrote of several discoveries where large, seemingly human skeletal remains were found. The first we’ll examine here was discovered in Roane County, Tennessee: “Underneath [a] layer of shells the earth was very dark and appeared to be mixed with vegetable mold to the depth of 1 foot. At the bottom of this, resting on the original surface of the ground, was a very large skeleton lying horizontally at full length. Although very soft, the bones were sufficiently distinct to allow of careful measurement before attempting to remove them. The length from the base of the skull to the bones of the toes was found to be 7 feet 3 inches. It is probable, therefore, that this individual when living was fully 7½ feet high.” Often, such accounts end up being fabrications or portions of text that are taken grossly out of context. Hence, I decided to see if any scans of the original published report could be found online for download. Indeed, the entire Twelfth Annual Report from the Smithsonian’s Bureau of Ethnology can be found online at Archive.org, with a PDF version here that can be viewed freely in its entirety. The relevant portion from the excerpt above can be found on page 362, and is pictured below: skeleton-1 Another instance occurs in the same report, this time at presumed Indian burial mounds at Dunlieth, Illinois: “Near the original surface, 10 or 12 feet from the center, on the lower side, lying at full length on its back, was one of the largest skeletons discovered by the Bureau agents, the length as proved by actual measurement being between 7 and 8 feet. It was clearly traceable, but crumbled to pieces immediately after removal from the hard earth in which it was encased….” Page 115 of the printed report features the relevant text: skeleton II Indeed, it seems that the Smithsonian at one time did discover and document what could only be called “giants,” during the same period that many of the American newspapers were reporting similar stories. Whether this bolsters the legitimacy of those reports may still be questionable; however, few would argue that trained scientists the likes of Powell and Thomas–despite the allegations of coverups and conspiracies–likely knew what they were talking about when they took these measurements, and reported on the existence of humans that, when alive, would easily have stood taller than seven feet. Also, it should be noted that in the latter of the two cases, it states that the skeleton “crumbled to pieces” when attempts were made to remove portions of the body. Hence, the reason in this instance for why the Smithsonian would possess no remains in their record seems clear: they weren’t able to retrieve a skeleton at all, since the discovery was too fragile to remove from the site. In other words, while the Smithsonian has actually acknowledged finding such large skeletons, there may be legitimate reasons as to why no bones were ever recovered in some instances. That isn’t to say that this scenario is always the case, however. Further complicating the mystery of missing giant bones is the following excerpt from an article I wrote several years ago, which included the inquiries of the late zoologist Ivan T. Sanderson, along with his frustrations with what appeared to include more allegations of evasive attitudes by the Smithsonian: “Sometime in the 1960s, Sanderson wrote about an odd letter he received regarding an engineer who, during World War II, had been stationed on the Aleutian island of Shemya. While building an airstrip, the bulldozing of a group of hills in the area led the engineer and his crew to unearth several sedimentary layers of human remains. They noted the extraordinary length of the crania and leg bones at the site, having apparently belonged to people of gigantic proportions. The skulls were said to have measured up to 24 inches from base to crown, far greater than the length of an average human skull. Also of interest was that each was said to have been trepanned, the strange process of drilling or cutting a hole and removing a top center portion of the skull, thought by some ancient cultures to enable a variety of alleged “benefits”, including psychicabilities, etc. Sanderson actively began to search for more proof of this incident, and later was able to contact another member of the unit who he said confirmed the bizarre story. By all accounts, the remains were said to have been gathered by the Smithsonian Institution, but no record of where they were taken was ever issued. Sanderson seemed convinced that the institute did indeed retrieve them however, going so far as to ask ‘is it that these people cannot face rewriting all the textbooks?’ “ Of course, when it comes to good science, few would argue the difference between hard evidence, and a really good story. The 1894 Bureau of Ethnology report provides us with historical documentation by agents with the Smithsonian for the discovery of large, anomalous bones that appeared to be human, and on at least two instances. Stories like that of Sanderson and the Sunset Cave discovery of 1911 suggest the discovery, as well as the potential mishandling, of otherwise precious bits of information about ancient America. And yet, none of these “stories,” whether told by independent researchers, or agents like Dr. Cyrus Thomas, really provide us with a complete specimen: if one good, complete giant skeleton were known to exist in its entirety, which scientists today could openly study and discuss with the public, there would be little need for discussion of a conspiracy. Of course, the knowledge that such skeletons may indeed have been found at times, paired with the Smithsonian’s apparent inability to keep very good records about their discovery, no doubt helps to fuel the conspiratorial speculation. With all the unknown quantities present here (and whether they are largely fact, or merely fiction), at times it does become difficult to know whether the entire truth is really being told. Regardless, do such discoveries of giant bones that are known to have existed, as the 1894 report seems to indicate, further lend to the claims of the conspiracy theorists? Or do they merely point to a deeper level of the mystery that has yet to be explored… and something which may contain new keys to life in ancient America? Addenda: Over the last few days, feedback from most readers indicates that they have interpreted, correctly, that the assertions made in the article above point to there being less likelihood that any actual “conspiracy” is afoot regarding Smithsonian acquisition of various skeletal remains, particularly those of large stature that were recovered in the late 1800s. This, I feel, remains true, despite the evidence of genuine discoveries of interest in the Smithsonian records (and whether or not one chooses to label these as actual “giants” or not, as even a 7-8 foot tall human, while uncommon, is hardly impossible). However, one of the bloggers mentioned in the piece above, Jason Colavito, misinterpreted this premise (albeit honestly, I feel), and has expounded on the piece with his own article that alleges I have contributed to the conspiracy mythos. This is not the viewpoint I have intended to express here, instead gravitating toward skeptical neutrality on the issue; however, I recommend that folks take a fair look at his article nonetheless, as it may provide a useful alternative perspective on the discussion, as well as its ideological components: Jason Colavito on “Micah Hanks and the Smithsonian Anti-Giant Conspiracy” |
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Prevailing Science Is Established By Evidentiary Proof Your portrayal of the "nortorious sensationalism" which newspapers were known for disregards the "yellow journalism" found so prevelent in the modern news reports. Saturating the Internet with bogus articles such as this. "SMITHSONIAN ADMITS TO DESTRUCTION OF THOUSANDS OF GIANT HUMAN SKELETONS IN EARLY 1900’S" In boldly announcing this disclaimer above the headline; "WORLD NEWS DAILY REPORT Where facts don't matter worldnewsdailyreport.com Which leads to the fact that the Internet isn't that neutral regarding alternative news and information sources. Websites are regularly scrubbed of conservative and Christian points of view. "Big Tech Is Leading Censorship ‘War’ on Conservatives, Report Says" www.lifezette.com "MEDIA Censoring Christians: Google and Facebook and Twitter, oh my" onenewsnow.com "FCC Chairman Cites James 1:22 in Vow to Fight Internet Censorship of Christian, Conservative Views" www.christianpost.com Back to the Smithsonian cover-up now this article sheds some light on the Smithsonian's origins which may explain their motives better. "This Conspiracy Claims The Smithsonian Destroys Giant Skeletons" Around the turn of the 20th century, The New York Times, London Globe, and Scientific American published articles purporting the discovery of gigantic human skeletons, concluding that the remains were sent to the Smithsonian for further study. But the fact that this evidence was never again seen or reported, continues to elicit questions of whether the Smithsonian destroys giant skeletons in order to cover up an inconvenient anomaly in the archeological narrative we’ve been told. The question has been heatedly debated over the past century or more, with researchers finding what appears to be corroborating evidence, while skeptics say the bones were simply those of massive prehistoric animals, reclassified by the Smithsonian and displayed in museums to this day. And while physical evidence remains tenuous, there is a seemingly endless trail of written and anecdotal suggestion that a larger race of humans once walked the Earth. A Brief History of the Smithsonian Though it may not be immediately obvious, the Smithsonian Institution is an extension of the U.S. government with congressional members sitting on its Board of Regents. It was initially founded as “an establishment for the increase and diffusion of knowledge among men,” at the endowment of philanthropist, chemist, and mineralogist James Smithson. And while it’s not a regulatory agency, it is so intrinsically tied to government that it claims immunity from state and local regulations, as well as immunity from lawsuits unless authorized by Congress. The Smithsonian was established in 1846 and was tasked with the mission of organizing the anthropological history of the United States. It is sometimes referred to as “the nation’s attic,” as it has amassed somewhere in the range of 154 million items between its myriad museums, research centers, and various facilities But with phrases like “diffusing knowledge,” coming from a government agency that’s been influencing the course of history since the Eurocentric days of manifest destiny, one might be skeptical about what kind of knowledge was spread and which powers it served. Richard Dewhurst, author of The Ancient Giants Who Ruled America, points to a man named John Wesley Powell, the U.S. Director of Ethnology in 1879 who ran the Smithsonian in its nascent years. In his research, Dewhurst uncovered what he refers to as the Powell Doctrine – a paper issued on behalf of the Smithsonian, which issued a decree that no anthropological research should consider any talk of lost tribes henceforth, while also describing natives as uncultured, savage, and lacking signs of higher intellect. “Hence it will be seen that it is illegitimate to use any pictographic matter of a date anterior to the discovery of the continent by Columbus for historic purposes,” Powell wrote. It’s unclear whether this was Powell’s decision or if it came from instructions on high, however Dewhurst believes its clear manifest destiny tone led to the subsequent Smithsonian cover up of an ancient race of giants who preceded Native Americans. (1) (1). www.gaia.com The Smithsonian Destroys Giant Skulls Looking back at newspaper clippings dating from the late 1800s into the early 1900s, Dewhurst found a multitude of instances in which citizens from disparate areas of the country uncovered massive bones, of seemingly human origin. Upon reporting these discoveries to media outlets or authorities, Dewhurst said unsuspecting citizens would shortly receive a visit from members of the Smithsonian who wasted no time sequestering the bones – allegedly bringing them to a museum or research facility, but which were never seen again. One could also find instances of giant skulls and skeletons in local papers with pictures to boot. Take for instance this photo from the San Antonio Press showing a giant skull next to two normal skulls for size comparison. (Photo at link below) Giants Discovered Throughout the World? The U.S. is not the only country in which these alleged giants of antiquity are said to have been found. In fact, there are accounts dating back several millennia, which speak of encounters with living giants or the relics hinting at their existence. In the world’s largest prehistoric copper mine in Wales there are accounts of the discovery of thousands of massive sledgehammers alleged to weigh somewhere in the range of 60 lbs. Whether there’s any validity to this assertion is debatable, though if true would require a larger-than-life human with incredible strength to have worked the mine and wielded such a tool – the average sledgehammer today rarely weighs more than 20 lbs. This repository, known as the Great Orme mine or the “Stonehenge of copper mining,” dates back some 3,500 years ago. (2) (2). s8int.com Another more well-known instance of alleged giants comes from the writings of Ferdinand Magellan’s chronicler Antonio Pigafetta, who wrote of a giant race upon discovering Patagonia. “One day we suddenly saw a naked man of giant stature on the shore of the port, dancing, singing, and throwing dust on his head.” Pigafetta wrote. “The captain-general sent one of our men to the giant so that he might perform the same actions as a sign of peace. Having done that, the man led the giant to an islet where the captain-general was waiting; When the giant was in the captain-general’s and our presence he marveled greatly and made signs with one finger raised upward, believing we had come from the sky. He was so tall that we reached only to his waist, and he was well proportioned.” www.gaia.com |
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Ok So yeah... giants might have walked the earth. So too unicorns and Kraken |
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Unexplained ..…“PRESUMABLY THOSE OF MEN, ARE MUCH LARGER THAN THE HEADS OF ANY RACE WHICH INHABIT AMERICA TO-DAY…” Legends and ancient writings speak of gigantic beings inhabiting Earth in the distant past. Interestingly, these stories occur in almost all ancient cultures and civilizations. We can find stories in many mythologies of the ancient world: Greek, Norse, Germanic, Indian, Indo-European, and also in the new world as in the traditions of the Mayans, Aztecs and Incas; but most importantly in almost all major sacred books of antiquity: the Lebhar Gabhale, the Hindu Ramayana and even in the Bible. There are countless discoveries that have been made throughout the years that firmly contradict mainstream history. Graham Hancock explains it pretty well in his book Fingerprints of the Gods: The Evidence of Earth’s Lost Civilization:“ At present there are only two land-based cranes in the world that could lift weights of this magnitude. At the very frontiers of construction technology, these are both vast, industrialized machines, with booms reaching more than 220 feet into the air, which require on-board counterweights of 160 tons to prevent them from tipping over. The preparation-time for a single lift is around six weeks and calls for the skills of specialized teams of up to 20 men.13 In other words, modern builders with all the advantages of high-tech engineering at their disposal can barely hoist weights of 200 tons. „ USA-Giants-Skeletons Giant skeletal remains have been found in Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Ohio, Kentucky and New York, and other places around the world. Strangely, these discoveries have never been given proper attention by the media, and most researchers consider them as being unimportant to history. Forbidden archeology or not. Every time someone mentions the possible discovery of ‘giant skeletons’ the notion of Forbidden History and Archaeology pops up. However, not everything is forbidden, and not everything is fake when it comes to the existence of giant beings. article_new_mexico According to several reports, over one hundred years ago, researchers discovered the burial mounds of what some are calling a ‘lost race of giants’ near Lake Delavan, Wisconsin. According to several websites, the enormous skeletons unearthed at the site near Lake Delavan were anything but ordinary. The cranial remains discovered on May 1912 did not fit very neatly into anyone’s concept of a textbook standard. People referred to them as enormous skeletal remains, not average of human beings. According to newspaper reports from 1912, their heights ranged between 7.6ft and 10 feet and their skulls… But… if Giants did exist… where is the evidence? Well, imagine how many things would change if archeology and history were to accept that such beings did, in fact, inhabit Earth in the past. Religion, society, creationism and many other things would have to be extensively revised and eventually changed. Therefore, it is logical to assume that if Giant beings did exist on Earth, their existence is kept a secret. red_river_valley_mound Vine Deloria, a Native American author, and professor of law said: “Modern day archeology and anthropology have nearly sealed the door on our imaginations, broadly interpreting the North American past as devoid of anything unusual in the way of great cultures characterized by a people of unusual demeanor. “The great interloper of ancient burial grounds, the nineteenth century Smithsonian Institution, created a one-way portal, through which uncounted bones have been spirited. “This door and the contents of its vault are virtually sealed off to anyone, but government officials. Among these bones may lay answers not even sought by these officials concerning the deep past.” In the past, the Smithsonian Institue is said to have deliberately hidden findings that could potentially alter the views society has on history and life on Earth. For decades, researchers have come across discoveries that contradict mainstream patterns set in place by institutes like the Smithsonian. In 2002, a report by National Geographic state that over a dozen of giant skeletal remains were found in Greece, ranging in height between 10 and 12 feet. On 10 August 1891, the New York Times reported that scientists from the Smithsonian Institution had discovered several large “pyramidal monuments” on Lake Mills, near Madison, Wisconsin. “Madison was in ancient days the center of a teeming population numbering not less than 200,000,” the Times said. “The celebrated mounds of Ohio and Indiana can bear no comparison, either in size, design or the skill displayed in their construction with these gigantic and mysterious monuments of earth — erected we know not by whom, and for what purpose we can only conjecture,” said the Times. The strange stories continue throughout the years, and in 1897, the Times wrote another story about large burial mounds discovered in Maple Creek, Wisconsin. (source) www.ancient-code.com |
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Off Topic The point, sir, these creatures blow the Darwiain world view out to Apha Centuri somewhere. Along with numerous other Godless scientific "discoveries" purporting to be evidence against the Biblical world view. Not only has the Smithsonian and National Geographic colluded (Like the DNC and the MSM have colluded against President Trump), but so has the Vatican long been covering up the story of the giants. Will address this one tommorow. |
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Nonsense It’s not logical at all. It just shows you don’t understand how science works! Did you ever meet a conspiracy theory you didn’t believe? |
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I have been working through an illness and not getting my regular rest while at work this week. I have another hour and a half before my shift ends. I have a few days to recuperate Promise to respond in a timely manner. |
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I looked I dunno... you seem willing to accept the flimsiest innuendo and assumptions as fact. I think you need a higher bar. In fact, if there were substantive evidence of giants, it’s ludicrous to think somebody in the know wouldn’t have brought it to light as they would be famous and rich. Your assumptions that it’s been kept quiet because it would upset the status quo is completely unrealistic |
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Probably Need To Look Again "But… if Giants did exist… where is the evidence? Well, imagine how many things would change if archeology and history were to accept that such beings did, in fact, inhabit Earth in the past. Religion, society, creationism and many other things would have to be extensively revised and eventually changed. Therefore, it is logical to assume that if Giant beings did exist on Earth, their existence is kept a secret." It's not logical at all. It just shows you don't understand how science works! Did you ever meet a conspiracy theory you didn't believe? >> On the one hand you see plainly how much the giants scenario would change the entire world << Religion, society, creationism and many other things would have to be extensively revised and eventually changed. >> But on the other hand you're unwilling or unable to wrap your mind (with the Darwinian world view firmly in place) around the facts surrounding how extensive and pervasive this cover up is! << It's not logical at all. It just shows you don't understand how science works! Did you ever meet a conspiracy theory you didn't believe? >> When I began this thread I said "Several Alternative news and information sources are reporting on these matters. The producer of Godrules begins with a recent documentation of the Smithsonian cover-up from right here in New Mexico. Timothy Alberino and others have been discovering the Vatican long history of covering up the giant's record in South America. MY INTENTION FOR BEGINNING THIS THREAD IS FOR DISCUSSION ON THESE COVER-UPS AND RELATED MATTERS." One such related "matter" concerns the long history of "science" and even "religion" in working together to bring about our current Darwinian world view. In Western culture and our civilization the Biblical model for understanding our world - the geocentric view of the cosmos - was accepted without question. Then beginning with Copernicus and Galileo and with the backing of the most powerful (and apostate) religious institution the shift towards heliocentric cosmology began. This new "understanding" of "science" began to be taught and disseminated in all of the universities of the world. It was taught in all of the schools where children learned about our world. Today you look at in any school room and you'll see the proverbial round Earth sitting either on the teachers desk or in another prominent place of the classroom. The purpose was to begin discrediting the Biblical world view of where we came from and EVERYTHING else which is taught in the Bible - like the past history of mankind's interaction with giants! Oh, I KNOW WELL how "science" works, just like this. And I know how the Vatican worked hard especially in South America to eradicate evidence of the giant's everywhere where marvelous South American Indian legends and history had recorded these giant's work, and where giants bones were. << I looked At the first video. It's full of misinformation and assumptions. I dunno... you seem willing to accept the flimsiest innuendo and assumptions as fact. I think you need a higher bar. >> What exactly is the "misinformation" you seen in that first video, please? What "assumptions"? This cover up has been carried out for hundreds of years, and during this time who would have thought that such a thing was being done? Who could have guessed? Could any of the uneducated farmers and settlers of the Old West in America who came across these giant's burial grounds? << In fact, if there were substantive evidence of giants, it's ludicrous to think somebody in the know wouldn't have brought it to light as they would be famous and rich. Your assumptions that it's been kept quiet because it would upset the status quo is completely unrealistic >> L A Marzulli has been doing documentary work on giants for years. So has Steve Quayle and Timothy Alberino. Tom Horn and a host of others, but because these people are Christians - who are saying to the world what I am saying here - I guarantee you you'll never see them on "Good Morning America" or on "60 Minutes" where they can share their life's work in an honest and unbiased atmosphere! Not while NASA and Dawkin's are being taught everywhere in our universities! So, it boils down to whether or not a man is willing to step back - way back - and take an honest look at who gains and who looses in this war of declaring to our societies which world view is more accurate. The one made up of science which destroys evidence or the owe which traditionally taught that life is a miracle and so is our world. In ending this post I will share a recent short devotional which teaches on Biblical truths on our world and how we should probably reassess what we've been taught. "TODAY'S TOPIC: PERFECTLY PLACE" Key Verse: Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? – Job 38:4 Today's: Scripture: Job 38:4–11 (NIV) Our Daily Bread 4 January 2020 Devotional - Perfectly Placed Key Verse: Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? – Job 38:4 Today's: Scripture: Job 38:4–11 (NIV) Insight After more than thirty-five chapters of debate between Job and his accusers, a new conversation takes place—Job hears from God Himself! Throughout most of these chapters, as Job's friends were accusing him, Job was accusing God. In fact, Job actually demands that He come and answer for His actions: "Oh, that I had someone to hear me! I sign now my defense—let the Almighty answer me; let my accuser put his indictment in writing" (Job 31:35). Now, at the end of Job's story, the Creator comes to respond to the charges Job has raised against Him (chs. 38–41), centering His response in a series of questions. Job bows before God and acknowledges his own weakness, saying, "Surely I spoke of things I did not understand, things too wonderful for me to know" (42:3). A true encounter with the Almighty is a humbling experience. Scientists know our planet is precisely the right distance from the sun to benefit from its heat. A little closer and all the water would evaporate, as on Venus. Only a bit farther and everything would freeze like it does on Mars. Earth is also just the right size to generate the right amount of gravity. Less would make everything weightlessly sterile like our moon, while more gravity would trap poisonous gases that suffocate life as on Jupiter. The intricate physical, chemical, and biological interactions that comprise our world bear the imprint of a sophisticated Designer. We catch a glimpse of this complex craftsmanship when God speaks to Job about things beyond our understanding. "Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation?" God asks. "Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone?" (Job 38:4–6). This glimpse of creation's magnitude causes us to wonder at Earth's mighty oceans bowing before the One who "shut up the sea behind doors when it burst forth from the womb, . . . [who said] ‘This far you may come and no farther." (vv. 8–11). In wonder may we sing with the morning stars and shout for joy with the angels (v. 7), for this elaborate world was made for us that we might know and trust God. By: Remi Oyedele Reflect & Pray How does God's amazing creation cause you to praise Him today? What about its design reveals a Maker? Thank You, Creator God, for this elaborate world You designed for us. dailydevotionalng.com |
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Biblical Exegesis About Giants 101 1) After the fallen angels began to impregnate the human women that resulted in the Nephellim (giants) 2) In God's estimation that was a direct attack on the human bloodlines from which later Christ Jesus would come. 3) That was the "corruption" God referred to in Genesis 6. The rampant sin was not the "corruption. As is very evident today, sin has not abated. 4) Therefore, in the Floor, God eradicated the corruption (giants) which were on the earth. For a while anyway. More importantly, an uncorrupted remenent of human beings were preserved through Noah and his family. 5) The cataclysmic events of the Flood caused many giants to die suddenly, leaving their bones skattered throughout the earth. 6) But Moses recorded the appearance of the giants "later" which indicates more Nephellim were born again after the Flood. |
