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inhis_service
09-Jan-20, 04:30

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Lessons From Mr. Rodgers on Being a good neighbor (Club member)

This article from a local free paper would be a good addition and behavior template for our Club IMO. Hopefully Club moderators will utilize this "rule of thumb" guide when assessing Club posts addressed (@ club member's U N) between our members.

In this polarized time when it requires to tear a stranger apart on social media or lash out to a family member because of a difference of opinion, loving and helping each other is a healthy respite.

Civics education expert Brooke Blevins, Ph.D., associate professor of social studies said the renewed focus on the beloved and soft-spoken TV personality, who died in 2003, might be coming at just the right time.

"Imagine if we all walked into the world with the belief that each person was inherently worthy of being loved. Imagine if our goal was to help each other realize we are worthy of being loved. Imagine if we sought to listen more than we spoke," she said. "I imagine if this was the case, our conversation would change, our understanding of those around us would shift, and our national conversation would be more civil."

Blevins shares six lessons from Mr. Rodgers we can learn about being better citizens.

[1] Each Person is Worthy to Be Loved and Heard

Like Mr. Rodgers, we must learn that each person we interact with is worthy to be loved and listened to. We must recognize that each person has unique experiences, fears, losses and triumphs that shape the way they understand what's happening around them. We need to do much more listening and far less talking. We should work together to tackle tough issues in reasoned and EVIDENCED BASED WAYS with CIVILITY and A GENUINE DESIRE TO UNDERSTAND THOSE AROUND US.

[2] Use Your Platform for Good

Mr. Rodgers was deeply committed to creating a better world. Mr. Rodgers did not take his role on TV lightly. He saw it as an opportunity to help young people make sense of the world around them. (On this Club we have an opportunity to understand why those we disagree with have different views than ours) He saw television as an opportunity to create community and a shared sense of purpose. (Why are you in this Club? Sure you have something to contribute, as do we all) As he once noted, "The space between the television screen (Computer monitor) and whoever happens to be receiving it, I consider that holy ground." (That space is not yours to pollute or disrespect) A lot happens there.

[3] Lessons We Often Think Are For Children Are for Adults As Well.

His lessons focused on DEVELOPING CIVIC DISCOURSE, REASONED JUDGEMENT AND EVIDENCE-BASED DECISION MAKING, but most importantly his lessons focused on CULTIVATED UNDERSTANDING AND EMPATHY FOR ONE'S NEIGHBORS. In his conversations and examples, he drew on OUR SHARED HUMANITY to help young people (other Club members) make sense of an ever changing world.

[4] Slow Down

In a time of fast paced and often silly cartoons that were designed to move quickly from scene to scene, Mr. Rodgers maintained a much slower and THOUGHTFUL PACE. A pace that was compelling to young and old alike. He explored issues SLOWLY AND WITH DEPTH, WITHOUT THE SILLY ANTICS that are so often used to keep children and adults' attention. He sent the message that ALL PEOPLE ARE INHERENTLY VALUABLE and are capable of loving and of being loved.

[5] Its Okay to Discuss Tough Issues -- Even With Those You Disagree With. But BE CIVIL AND UNDERSTANDING WHEN YOU DO IT.

Mr. Rodgers used his vocational skills to create a safe space in which difficult conversations could occur. Mr. Rodgers helped to navigate people through emotionally tramatic events - divorce, death, assassination, and even 9/11. He did this both with KNOWLEDGE AND COMPASSION. He did this by ASKING QUESTIONS, AND THEN LISTENING.

[6] Being A Good (Neighbor) Club Member

Being a good Club member is about caring those with whom we associate with here. ITS NOT JUST ABOUT TOLERANCE, BUT TRULY SEEKING TO UNDERSTAND those in our Club. It means helping those around us understand that they plan an important part in making the world better and a more just place. It means working together to SOLVE COMPLEX ISSUES and cultivate a world in which all people can fulfill their true purpose.

(All emphasis mine)
zorroloco
09-Jan-20, 07:09

Hmmm
I agree that this is a good way to live. I’m not sure it translates directly to online discourse in forums like this... one of the main draws for me is that we can be brutally honest here, which isn’t the case in the real world where we have relationships to protect.
inhis_service
09-Jan-20, 10:18

Improving GK Forums One Club at a Time!
<< I'm not sure it translates directly to online discourse in forums like this... one of the main draws for me is that we can be brutally honest here, which isn't the case in the real world where we have relationships to protect. >>

The fact that we've been "allowed to hide" behind social media sites and Internet chat rooms, or forums such as this, has made it easier to be "brutally honest". "Honest" in such a way that what we've been representing as ourselves - in our "brutality" - is not how we would behave in the real world.

In the real world being courteous and respectful of others when we interact, eye to eye, is something we take for granted and expect wherever we go. Bullies and drunkards and foul-mouthed people are not tolerated or appreciated ANYWHERE ANYTIME.

I know Zorro, that in your First Amendment Club fair warning is given regarding the kind of language and adjectives which are freely tossed about on your forums. Please, do not take offense, but as the writer of the article I posted above succinctly noted, we need to cool the jets of the vitriol which is now running rampant throughout our society. It was with that in mind that I posted the article.

And it is with that intention I will monitor the content of posts and views which are posted on this Club. Again, I reiterate my hope that you and Red Fox Rising will help me to monitor content on this Club.

This will be the boundaries which other Club members can expect while I am running this Club. Everybody's cooperation will be appreciated.

Thank you all in advance!







pawntificator
09-Jan-20, 15:16

I'm actually brutally honest with my closest friends, and not always in a tactful way. With acquaintances, I'll just keep my mouth shut and avoid them when possible if they want to "get into it."

In clubs like this you can certainly avoid people by banning them or not letting them join your club or just not engaging in discussion or measuring contests.

Speaking of Mr. Rogers did anyone see the new movie? Nevermind, that's a different thread.

inhis_service
09-Jan-20, 16:41

<< or just not engaging in discussion or measuring contests. >>

This might be the best way for you here, because . . .

<< I'm actually brutally honest with my closest friends >>

Will NOT be welcomed here.

pawntificator
09-Jan-20, 16:44

I did not mean to imply that zorroloco was a friend.
pawntificator
09-Jan-20, 16:48

I understand you.

From the rules: "Anywhere and anytime the thoughts and voices of ideas, information or news reports are RESTRICTED or CENSORED oppression surely follows"

There is a difference between the exchange of information and ideas and petty personal attacks.

But he started it! Ha ha, sigh.
inhis_service
09-Jan-20, 17:50

Yes, Of Course!
<< But he started it! Ha ha, sigh >>

He's been warned as well.

Just report it next time it happens again.

You'll can watch as he's tossed out, just like anyone else who crosses the line
inhis_service
09-Jan-20, 18:48

NATURE & BUSH FIRES IN . . .
Australia, from a rice paddy . . .

In this video Steve Ciccollotti reflects on the importance of farmers in supplying the food we all need to survive.

He reminds us how little we can do after working to plant the seed for the food which will grow.

How completely dependent we are on the elements - sun, rain and wind.
Or God's grace.

youtu.be
zorroloco
09-Jan-20, 20:01

“In clubs like this you can certainly avoid people by banning them or not letting them join your club or just not engaging in discussion or measuring contests.”

A perfect way to deal with trolls and annoying pests.
pawntificator
09-Jan-20, 20:06

It seems as if calling them names is even more perfect if your comment means anything.
inhis_service
09-Jan-20, 20:19

@Isityoustand
Your remark here calls into question L_Z's integrity.

Maybe you should ask him what he means by the comment rather than judging it?
pawntificator
09-Jan-20, 20:25

I was merely accepting it for what I thought it to be.

If he was not attempting to paint me with the epithets then I misunderstood his post.

It's true, though, that my statement was correct. It is the best way.

zorroloco
09-Jan-20, 20:26

Ihs
I was just stating the obvious...Trolls and annoying pests are best dealt with by not allowing them in your homes, forums or lives or by ignoring them.

If there is a better way to deal with them I’d like to hear it.
pawntificator
09-Jan-20, 20:30

You could beat them in pure debate. Ah, but that wouldn't work. They would simply disagree with you and counter your arguments.
inhis_service
09-Jan-20, 20:30

Zorroloco
No, that is very good advice.

In matter of fact, that's confirmation that one certain player definitely will not be a good fit for our Club.
Thank YOU
inhis_service
09-Jan-20, 20:32

Itisyoustand
BINGO

Couldn't have said it better!
zorroloco
09-Jan-20, 20:32

Ihs
Exactly.

Arguing with fools only proves there are two.
pawntificator
09-Jan-20, 20:34

There has to be more than 2. There's like 7 billion people.
inhis_service
10-Jan-20, 11:44

Blah, Blah, Blah
There have been two, at least, posts with topics which I thought I would find of interest and probably beneficial information to personally utilize.

However, when I went to look they were LONG winded copy and paste for me to read.

Saying that to say, maybe just posting a little copy and paste and more links to go to after would be more likely to get read and generate interest.

Just saying . . .
inhis_service
19-Jan-20, 16:42

Defining FTFS Club Standards
Recently on one of the threads here the subject appears to have been related to certain ethnic groups, and was including the topic of humans "breeding" with animals!

The "tone" of these posts were not encouraging nor were they positive and edifying to say the least! They were accusatory and disparaging remarks. The kind I believe intended to stir up anger and to wound.

In these politically sensitive and partisan times nobody needs to have someone else "poke them in the eye", as it were. It will not be easy for some of us to lay aside our high emotions about certain issues - especially if you believe you have been directly effected by others words/ actions. But put them aside you must!


I determined that "hot button issues" can be discussed and debated here because censoring or "ruling out" certain topics is not Free Speech.

If we can be CONSIDERATE of others views UNDERSTANDING will be the result.

Only if we can try to understand can we dare hope for real civil dialogue.

If you don't think you can do that please leave on your own accord.
inhis_service
25-Sep-20, 14:51

Duplicate Postings, And Keeping On Topic
While this is the FTFS Club, and I will be the last person to criticize any topic subject today I noticed a new thread titled "Trump Victory Thread!"

A few days ago we had this one get posted; "Celebrating a Trump victory".

In looked at both threads and they said basically the same thing.

Next to Pawntifex I'm probably Trump's biggest supporter, but let's cut down on these duplicate postings, please?
laserbuffalo
25-Sep-20, 18:40

Deleted by redfoxrising on 25-Sep-20, 19:00.
laserbuffalo
25-Sep-20, 18:51

Deleted by redfoxrising on 25-Sep-20, 19:00.
redfoxrising
25-Sep-20, 19:03

honeybeezer I have moved your post
Your Trump post is being relocated to the Trump Tread you started

Please do not post again in this thread about Trump

Thank You,

Club Moderator
laserbuffalo
25-Sep-20, 19:12

I’d hate to what the regular freedom of speech club is like!

redfoxrising
25-Sep-20, 19:32

Duplicates
Keeping on subject is something that can drift but the Post that was deleted was at least relocated! So I'll keep your last comment here because we do support freedom of speech

"I’d hate to what the regular freedom of speech club is like!"
hate to what? Think? Join the Think Club or the other clubs of your choice.
laserbuffalo
25-Sep-20, 19:38

Maybe you don’t know what freedom of speech means.

I get to say what I want unless it violates GK regulations and it does not.

By suppressing content simply because you don’t like what I’m saying is not in keeping with American ideals.

inhis_service
25-Sep-20, 19:42

<< Is it forbidden to question decrees in the “real freedom of speech club”? >>

Of course, not! Our Club Moderator seen my concern for having DUPLICATE threads on basically the SAME ISSUE/ TOPIC and making it more CLUTTERED than it needs to be.

In this Club Moderators have my permission to clean up clutter as I HAVE defined it.

It you're really having a problem with how I am running the Club, please, let's talk about it, ok?
inhis_service
25-Sep-20, 19:46

<< By suppressing content simply because you don’t like what I’m saying is not in keeping with American ideals. >>

How do you qualify my tidying up the Club with "supressing content"?

Can you please show/ share WHY what you posted on one thread is DIFFERENT than what you posted on the other?

It you can't, you have no beef, do you?
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