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 Chemtrailsyoutu.be These white tracks following aircraft are not innoculous! Let's not keep lying to ourselves. |
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IHS Hm-mm? Are you actually lying to yourself if you believe that ridiculous conspiracy theory story, Ace? |
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Contrails from planes Government conspiracy, or water vapour in the sky? Patrick Pleul/dpa/Press Association I’ve spent a lot of time debunking silly conspiracy claims in my time. NASA faked the Moon landings, the Mayan calendar predicted the end of the world in 2012, a mysterious planet named Nibiru would wipe out life on Earth in 2003, the government created fake snow in Atlanta that wouldn’t melt and scorched when burned… I’ve even debunked government officials who claim that other government officials are covering up conspiracies. So when I say I haven’t bothered debunking chemtrails because they’re too goofy even for me, you can glean how I really feel about them. Still, a handful of people are extremely devoted to the idea that the government is spraying us with chemicals from planes, and what you think are simple contrails are actually high doses of mind-altering (or climate altering) chemical compounds meant to keep us under control, I mean, come on, wake up sheeple! Sigh. Just water vapour In fact, when you see clouds coming from planes they really are just the product of condensation of water vapour. But why let facts get in the way of a good conspiracy? Still, it’s worth trying. That’s why scientists from the University of California, Irvine, and the Carnegie Institute got together and researched the topic. They knew they wouldn’t convince the conspiracy theorists, but having a solid source of objective science might help inform the public discourse. Given how anti-science so many members of the US Congress can be, I don’t think there’s any idea too silly for them to not take seriously. They surveyed hundreds of experts in contrails as well as those who study atmospheric deposition (how various chemicals fall to the ground from the air), presenting them with the evidence provided on various chemtrail websites (mostly in the form of photos of plane trails and analyses of water and soil samples), asking them to evaluate it. No evidence In the end, 77 scientists reported back, and the results were not terribly surprising. 98.7 per cent (76 out of 77) of the scientists said they had encountered no evidence of a secret large-scale atmospheric programme (SLAP). Everything they saw on the conspiracy websites showed that what they were seeing was the natural consequence of planes flying around all on their own without government nefariousness. Of course, the first thing you’ll notice is the one scientist who dissented. In that case, it’s hardly a smoking gun: The one participant who answered yes said the evidence they had come across was “high levels of atm[ospheric] barium in a remote area with standard ‘low’ soil barium”. In other words, they found some unusually high amounts of barium, which hardly supports the idea of wide-spread cover-ups of mind control techniques – and it sounds like the scientist in question was simply saying they can’t rule SLAP out, which is a very different thing from saying it’s real. When I can’t find my keys in the morning I can’t rule out that dinosaur ghosts hid them from me. It just seems a tad unlikely. Walk away The research is actually rather interesting, and I encourage you to read it. But as the authors note, it won’t make a dent in the conspiracy theories. The first thing you’ll find out when you deal with people like that is that any evidence against them is part of the cover-up. This is what I call a philosophical cul-de-sac; they’ve removed themselves from any possible evidence and criticism, and at that point I’ve learned to walk away. At least to walk away from them specifically; in some cases it’s worth pursuing the discussion with the public because they’re liable to hear about it, and a place to find actual facts and debunking is a handy thing to make available. So I’m glad these scientists went to the effort, even though it may seem silly. Conspiracy theorists usually don’t make a big splash in real life, but if they get the ear of a politician, time, money, and effort can indeed be wasted – sometimes on a big scale. Given how anti-science so many members of Congress can be, I don’t think there’s any idea too silly for them to not take seriously. |
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Lying Whistle Blowers and Chemicals on Ground Everywhere Nothing here just move along, and be good sheeple. Not this man! |
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Ihs What are you gonna do... stop breathing? |
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No conspiracy needed No need for a chem trail conspiracy |
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iHs When you get up in the morning and see the horizon to horizon grid pattern in the sky, pull out a map and plot where each airport is located. Now orient and transpose the trails onto a vellum or transparent floppy and overlay that onto the map. Do they lead to any airport? A good aviation chart will help identify any Victor Airways in your area. www.bing.com |
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sound complicated thumper |
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UNCOMPLICATED To Investigate Evidence "Stop breathing"? How about just getting involved and fighting back? Unless you're a sheeple. Thanks for the lead, Thumper. "Chemtrails Doing 180 Degree Turn" youtu.be "Broken Contrails and Contrails with Gaps" contrailscience.com "PROBING THE 'CHEMTRAILS' CONUNDRUM" www.hiddenmysteries.org |
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Tell me I’ll wait |
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iHs |
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The Truth Is Out There . . . Free Speech W/O knowledge is kind of funny, too, isn't it? Thanks, Thumper |
