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 JFK, RFK And MLK Were All Killed by the Same ForcesThe fact that America finds herself in the current political and social divide is a direct result of those Forces which murdered JFK, RFK and MLK. These views are those of Dave Hodges. And though the post is clearly a copy and paste from off an Internet website I am in full agreement with Dave Hodge's conclusions. Follow-up posts by interested Club members will please offer documentation for your views. Interested members will please express displeasure and disagreement for my posting this information on the Club Gripe thread. Thank you all in advance for contributing to this important subject. Captain of the FTFS Club |
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JFK, RFK And MLK Were All Killed by the Same Forces (I) How can I be sure? I can be sure by a simple preponderance of circumstantial evidence which overwhelmingly connects the three most important and horrific assassinations in the 20th century. The Vietnam War All three men shared a similar goal of not becoming more deeply involved in the Vietnam War and they paid for it with their lives. John F. Kennedy sought to avoid the Vietnam War because he saw it as a military quagmire that would burn American resources, needlessly waste American lives and would ultimately hurt his legacy as a president who oversaw an unwinnable war. Robert Kennedy was still reeling from his older brother's assassination for which the Vietnam War was a major factor which motivated the co-conspirators. RFK was determined to end the war in Vietnam. Robert also posed the threat of being able to reopen his brother's murder and, Allan Dulles Richard Nixon Gerald Ford George Bush David Rockefeller, ...had a lot to worry about if that were ever to happen. RFK had to be stopped with regard to his quest for the Presidency. As Robert Kennedy sought the Democratic nomination for the 1968 presidential race, we should take note of the fact that most of his supporters were in their early to mid 20's which comprised the demographics of people most vehemently opposed to the Vietnam War. Therefore, Robert F. Kennedy had a motive to withdraw the forces from Vietnam for political reasons. At the beginning of the 1968 Democratic campaign season, most people didn't give Robert Kennedy a snowballs chance in hell of securing the nomination from his party. However, his early stunning upset victories caused great alarm among the establishment elite. One of the stories that floated among intelligence operatives who have spoken out was that Robert Kennedy was told not to go to California and participate in the Democratic primary. He was clearly told to withdraw from the race or he would be killed. Reportedly, Robert Kennedy scoffed at the threats clearly thinking that the establishment elite would not be able to get away with assassinating two different Kennedy's in less than five years. Allegedly, Martin Luther King was killed, in part, at the height of the civil rights movement, in order to provide Robert Kennedy with a high-profile warning that nobody was beyond the reach of the elite establishment. Dr. King's assassination did not sway Robert Kennedy from his political ambitions and he ultimately paid the ultimate price for ignoring the warning. Martin Luther King was a threat to the establishment elite, not simply because he was having a revolutionary civil rights movement and was succeeding, he was also opposed to the Vietnam War. King's objection to the Vietnam War was not based so much on geopolitical reasons, but rather on issues of racial equality. At a time in our country's history when we still had a military draft, a disproportionate number of black males, particularly in the South, were being drafted in lieu of white males. And King was also opposed to the disproportionate number of black soldiers who were being sent to Vietnam. King's objections to the Vietnam War were dangerous to the establishment. King drew the attention of J. Edgar Hoover and was illegally spied upon by the FBI. And if you want a reason to dislike J. Edgar Hoover any more, Hoover removed King's FBI bodyguards shortly before his assassination. Of course, the establishment would have us believe that this was just another coincidence. The Vietnam War was a huge cash cow for the establishment elite in the areas of oil, the military-industrial complex and the banks. Nothing was going to interfere with establishment's right to wage war for profit. Single Assassins The establishment says that John Kennedy, Robert Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King were all killed by lone assassins who most people labeled as mentally ill and extremist in their beliefs. Ask yourself an important question. If you were going to carry out a high-profile assassination of well-guarded individuals, this would require a great deal of planning, don't you think? One would have to be able to get in proximity to their target, remain undetected, conceal their weapon until the last moment and then flawlessly carry out the plot with an accuracy that's second to none. With the high degree of planning that would have to go in to these three assassinations, why would anyone risk discovery by revealing their plans in advance by confessing in a diary which could've been serendipitously discovered? Perhaps we can buy this ridiculous diary explanation in one of these assassinations. More amazingly, each diary left a convincing trail of condemning evidence as to the written, self expressed guilt of the assassin which would leave no doubt in the public's mind that the assassin acted alone. Therefore, we are asked to believe that this scenario happened three times, in the three major assassinations of the 20th century, less than five years apart and we're supposed to believe that this commonality of modus operandi is just a mere coincidence? Are you kidding me? Meanwhile the establishment elite gets to point the finger individually at each of the accused three assassins by pointing to these diaries. John Kennedy was allegedly killed by Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald supposedly wrote a diary upon his return journey from his previous defection to the Soviet Union in which he threatened the president with harm. Many handwriting analysts discredit the Oswald diary as a diary that was written in just a few sessions and not over a period of months and years as the Warren Commission claimed. Robert Kennedy was killed by Sirhan Sirhan and the diary was later discovered and used to implicate the accused assassin in a court of law. Dr. Martin Luther King was assassinated by James Earl Ray and he too had a diary professing his intentions to kill the civil rights activist. Interestingly, members of the King family visited James Earl Ray on many occasions in prison and publicly stated that they do not believe that James Earl Ray was the man who killed Dr. Martin Luther King. This trifecta trail of implication through the finding of a diary is not believable and this really does demonstrate how dumb the establishment elite thinks the American people truly are that we would believe the same story three times over. The Lone Assassin Myth Political assassinations of this magnitude are complicated to say the least. How one sniper, or one gunman could have carried out this act, without any assistance, is very difficult to believe. Failure to use a spotter in all three cases and the failure to have an accomplice in all three cases is just not believable. And that is exactly what the House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1977 stated when Congress issued an opinion which stated that JFK was murdered by at least two gunmen. Yet the media propaganda spin still continues to this day. All Three Assassins Were Mentally Ill All three of the assassins have been categorized to the public as extremists who are mentally ill. There is actually a fourth assassination attempt in the 20th century in which the establishment claims was carried out by a mentally ill lone assassin and that person was the would-be assassin of Ronald Reagan, John Hinckley. Wouldn't you say that the establishment went to the well a little too often with this profile? Conclusion Let's sum up the "official" position of the establishment. The three most prominent assassinations of the 20th century were carried out against high-profile political targets. And according to the establishment elite, all of the assassinations were the individual acts of one man with an unstable mental health background and extremist political views. Further, all the assassins possessed a diary which professes their murderous intentions towards their individual target, and just coincidentally, the diary was discovered and used to implicate the single assassin notion in each case. And let's not forget that in two of the three assassinations involving John Kennedy and Martin Luther King, expert marksmanship was displayed. In fact, in the case of Oswald, nobody has been able to duplicate the accuracy and speed of which the assassination had to be carried out in 5.6 seconds. Don't you wish that MIT would run the odds on these probabilities being due to chance. Fifty years later following the death of John Kennedy and 45 years after the death of Robert Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King, some of the older folks in this country still seek answers. Why in 2013 is assassination evidence still being held under lock and key and the American people are not allowed to look at it? What is the establishment afraid that we might learn? And more disturbingly, why don't more Americans care? For when we let a few men, behind-the-scenes, commit a coup d'état against three high level political figures, especially the President of the United States, and subsequently change policy in case of John Kennedy, we no longer live in a democratic republic. We now live in a corporate oligarchy. When these events are allowed to go on and the true perpetrators remain unpunished and the evidence is carefully concealed decades after the events, then what we are left with is a Praetorian Guard who runs the government for behind-the-scenes committing assassinations, rigging elections and by bribing politicians with undue corporate influence and gratuity. Add in the control of the media (1) and we live in a prison country. This is why you should care and this is why it's disgraceful that more of the alternative media is not covering these events and more Americans don't give a damn about what happened to these three men and why they were assassinated. The same forces were killed by the elite establishment using the same modus operandi, representing the identical interlocking directorates of the entities that are wreaking havoc in tyranny upon our country today (e.g. the Federal Reserve, the military industrial complex etc.). There are definitive reasons, with modern day implications which describe why you should care and this is why you should take the time to investigate and educate your neighbors because the assassins of these three men, all from the same groups, are responsible for the mess we're in today. And we can't fix the mess we're in today unless we understand how we got into the situation we are mired in. JFK, RFK and MLK were clearly killed by the same forces. If you are wondering about the identities of these forces, I refer you to Part One (JFK Murder - Fifty Years Later and the Cover Up Continues) (2) of this series where the identities of these interlocking directorates are clearly identified. There is another compelling reason why we should keep the heat on with regard to the murders of these three men. If we can ever have a bold American leader attempt to lead the country out of tyranny, the amount of attention that we pay to these three assassinations, could ultimately save the life of a future great reformer. I know, and many others know who pulled the trigger from the grassy knoll in order to kill John Kennedy. Many of us also know the identities of the puppeteers behind the scenes who orchestrated these heinous acts. However, nobody is home and nobody is listening any longer as we continue to lose our country, our traditions, our true historical past and most of all, our children's futures. Why do we kill those who try and make a difference? Dion wondered the same as he wrote a song about the great civil rights reformers in American History. Before you dismiss this topic of one that should go back on the history shelf, not to be debated again, listen to the following song. And then ponder, just for a moment, about how life would be different for all of us if these men were able to carry out the fulfillment of their dreams. youtu.be JFK Murder - Fifty Years Later and the Cover Up Continues - The day that John Kennedy was murdered, was the day that Americans lost their country. Since that fateful day in November of 1963, our slide into tyranny has accelerated. Nearly every form of tyranny which has overrun our country has its roots in the post-JFK assassination event. JFK was seemingly the last watchman on the wall against the encroaching tyranny of the newly created national surveillance security police state grid. There have only been two prominent politicians who have stood up to the tyranny of the New World Order (3) since the death of JFK. These two men would be Reagan (until he was shot by Hinckley) and Ron Paul. The Missed Opportunity Connected to the 50th Anniversary Last summer, I predicted that the upcoming 50th anniversary of JFK's murder would awaken a whole new generation as to the tyranny that the country has fallen under and who is responsible for that tyranny. I wrongly believed that the co-conspirators, the interlocking pieces of the JFK assassination cabal, namely, David Rockefeller (4) the Federal Reserve (5) the oil companies (6) the military industrial complex (7) the CIA and their mafia assets, (8) ...would be exposed with all the attention that the 50th anniversary would provide. I wrongly believed that these groups with their current and undue influence on America would also be readily identified for what they did to JFK and to the country on November 22, 1963. I further believed that today's younger generation would easily build the bridge linking the corruption and undue influence of these 1963 groups to today's political landscape and this would be an easy association. Unfortunately, my predictions were in error because we in the alternative media dropped the ball. (1) www.bibliotecapleyades.net (2) www.bibliotecapleyades.net (3) www.bibliotecapleyades.net (4) www.bibliotecapleyades.net (5) www.bibliotecapleyades.net (6) www.bibliotecapleyades.net (7) www.bibliotecapleyades.net (8) www.bibliotecapleyades.net www.bibliotecapleyades.net |
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@Zorroloco Looking into this possible "conspiracy" at first was discouraging to say the least. One of the books I looked at from the public library a few years ago by an FBI agent was only regurgitated spiel which the Corporate owned Mainstream Media has been using since the "assassination". There are a number of other books which the authors have had great difficulty getting published in America, so they'e had to use foreign publishers. Z_L, there are so many holes in the official narrative that any objective analysis should convince you that this was a "hit job" all of the way. Two which pop out at me every time I think on it are the scene of the secret service agent who is called back from jumping onto the rear bumper of President Kennedy's limousine as it begins to head into Daley Plaza. He's putting his hands into the "what the hick" position - dumbfounded at the orders from his superior! The other is the McGrueder film of the actual shots hitting the president's head. His head whip-sawing back and forth surely indicating two different shooters. Thank you for having an open mind on this "open and shut" case which never was truly investigated! Here is a historical speech which may have sealed President Kennedy's fate. youtu.be |
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Ihs I’d rather play guitar or read a book. I might even read a book about this issue. But I’d never keep digging because that’s not how I want to spend my time. |
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I’d rather play guitar or read a book. I might even read a book . . . >> This is exactly how those people expected the American people to react. The question was asked to imagine how America would be different today had these men not been murdered. Contemplate THAT for a few minutes, please? I wonder if maybe you are not in agreement with the way American society and politics have turned out? The premises that the current American division is an extension of the political rationale behind the murders of these three men might be the rationale for your assertion that it's a waste of time to discuss the details of "what ifs" above. Can you deny that? Honestly, the premises suggest the destruction of the American Republic after all. Is that a not a good reason to pursue this? |
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The 2013 Establishment Propaganda Machine Is Rolled Out The day that JFK was murdered was the day that Rockefeller won the world's biggest lottery. With the marking of the 50th anniversary of the assassination of John F. Kennedy, there have been over 2,000 books written on the subject and countless radio and television shows devoted to the topic. This fall, the globalist news corporations have produced a rash of new JFK "investigations" which all purport to show different ways to prove that Oswald, and Oswald alone, killed John Kennedy. The new productions (e.g. National Geographic) are so bad and so faulty, that they are laughable. Media Propagandists Ignore the Government's Final Conclusion of a Conspiracy The modern day propagandists are winning the day with regard to the control of the narrative surrounding the assassination. During the height of America's skepticism regarding the 1964 Warren Report (1) which stated that Lee Oswald killed John Kennedy and that he acted alone, most Americans rejected the "official explanation. What the modern day public, as well as the establishment propagandists, seem to have forgotten is that in 1977, the House Select Committee on Assassinations concluded that Oswald had help and JFK was killed as a result of a conspiracy. (1). en.m.wikipedia.org This was the final word on the subject from our government on the assassination. However, the history revisionists do not want a hint of a conspiracy because this could give birth to a modern day JFK assassination renaissance in a search for the co-conspirators who killed JFK. Once that search would begin, the descendants of the perpetrators organizations would not be able to escape public scrutiny. We in the alternative and truthful media missed a golden opportunity to wake up the country on this 50th Anniversary of JFK's death. This fall, if we had devoted a significant amount of time and effort to covering the assassination, and we had been relentless in our efforts, the under 40 crowd would understand who their present enemies are and they would have been awakened to the present day tyranny. WE ALLOWED our voices to be drowned out by the mainstream fictional media with their new JFK cover up pieces. Sadly, we lost a golden opportunity to wake up millions of young Americans. At the height of JFK conspiracy fervor in the 1970′s-1990′s, according to the Gallup Poll, as many as 80% of Americans believed that there was a conspiracy to kill JFK. Today, that number has slipped to 61% thanks in large part to the new propaganda productions which are influencing our younger Americans. In the 1990′s, Oliver Stone produced 'JFK' and Bill Kurtis and Nigel Turner produced separate investigations into the assassination (i.e. The Men Who Killed Kennedy). In the 1990′s, the country was spellbound by the new revelations which were also bolstered by JFK admirer, Bill Clinton, as he forced the release of millions of classified JFK documents. However, the evil empire struck back around the year, 2000, and today, you see almost nothing on TV which does not show that Oswald was acting alone. www.bibliotecapleyades.net |
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Statute Of Limitations For Crimes Against The American People? So what! These conspirators are yet working on taking down the American Republic. Your point is what exactly? |
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My point |
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These Conspirators Continue Their Crimes Against American Republic Projecting crimes committed against the election process onto the duly elected president corrupt members of the DNC and the mainstream media tried to falsely accuse President Trump. "The Evidence That Russia Hacked The DNC Is Collapsing" The allegation – now accepted as incontrovertible fact by the “mainstream” media – that the Russian intelligence services hacked the Democratic National Committee (and John Podesta’s emails) in an effort to help Donald Trump get elected recently suffered a blow from which it may not recover. Crowdstrike is the cybersecurity company hired by the DNC to determine who hacked their accounts: it took them a single day to determine the identity of the culprits – it was, they said, two groups of hackers which they named “Fancy Bear” and “Cozy Bear,” affiliated respectively with the GRU, which is Russian military intelligence, and the FSB, the Russian security service. How did they know this? These alleged “hacker groups” are not associated with any known individuals in any way connected to Russian intelligence: instead, they are identified by the tools they use, the times they do their dirty work, the nature of the targets, and other characteristics based on the history of past intrusions. www.zerohedge.com "Assange had 'physical proof' Russians didn't hack DNC, Rohrabacher says" Rep. Dana Rohrabacher California Republican, left a meeting with Julian Assange believing the WikiLeaks publisher had “physical proof” Russia didn’t supply his website with leaked Democratic National Committee emails it released during the 2016 U.S. presidential race. Mr Rohrabacher made the comment in a interview with Breitbart Radio published online Thursday in which he spoke about his August 2017 visit to the Ecuadorian Embassy in London. I knew the one man who could prove that it was all baloney was Assange. So I went to see him in London, and he confirmed for me that the Russians did not give him the DNC emails. He had physical proof of that, and he was going to let me see that and have that, but only once, I found an agreement so he wouldn’t get arrested when he leaves the Ecuadorian embassy in London,” Mr. Rohrabacher insisted. m.washingtontimes.com "Former NSA Tech Director Outlines DNC Emails Were A Leak Not A Russian Hack" theconservativetreehouse.com |
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Kevin Shipp is a former top agent at the CIA and is glad to see the president fighting back against his former agency. He says that the intelligence agencies act as a shadow government who do as they please when they please it, President's Trumps attack on human rights abuse and corruption was aimed directly at the deep state. The days of the Presidency of Donald J. Trump are proving to be just as exciting as his incredibly famous, and now historical, race to the White House. While liberals, progressives, Marxists, and crybabies continue to cry foul that Russia helped elect Donald Trump, the rest of the country is awaiting more positive news about interference with the election. Now a former top CIA agent has broken his silence and has come forward to say that President Trump is terrifying the deep state and shadow government so much that they want the president “taken out!” conservativedailypost.com |
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Wake Up World Let’s face it, the mainstream media, like CNN, Fox News etc. are great at reporting on the surface understandings of surface issues; car accidents and plane crashes, shootings and robberies; as well as reinforcing why our latest foreign war or domestic loss-of-rights is good/necessary/the only way to peace and security. But if you really want to investigate and comprehend what is actually going on in the world, and why, you have to go past the mainstream. Just look at the countless global events being reported by the underground news and compare it to the selective, politically-biased fear-fare of the mainstream; there is little journalistic integrity on display in the mainstream media, just the regurgitation of B.S. And lots of it. Even the surface events reported in the mainstream are often filtered, distorted . . . wakeup-world.com |
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Sign Of Hope According to a Monmouth University Poll that was released this week, the majority of Americans believes that a group of unelected government and military officials secretly manipulate the United State government from behind the scenes. According to the poll (1) , both democrats and republicans feel that there is a “deep state” faction that works in secrecy and exists to shape policy as well as spy on American citizens. A majority of the American public believe that the U.S. government engages in widespread monitoring of its own citizens and worry that the U.S. government could be invading their own privacy. The Monmouth University Poll also finds a large bipartisan majority who feel that national policy is being manipulated or directed by a “Deep State” of unelected government officials. Americans of color on the center and left and NRA members on the right are among those most worried about the reach of government prying into average citizens’ lives. thefreethoughtproject.com |
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pawntificator 23-Jan-20, 21:33 |
I won’t change my life whether I know the truth or not. """""""""""""""" That explains it. The guy got too old. |
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pawntificator 23-Jan-20, 21:35 |
God bless the patriots and that infiltrator is not welcome among peaceful Americans. We do not like communists. |
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@Isityoustanding Actually, if you think about it a little more, can't you see how Z_L really supports the Democratic Party's political agenda? The same agenda which has been running American politics lately? Yes, that last video was powerful! Just started following him a few months ago, too. |
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Millienniels Following the Pied Piper . . . Also, seems Z_L started following the Left some time ago. Age isn't an indication of seeing things like Conservatives do. |
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pawntificator 23-Jan-20, 21:52 |
It's just a stereotypical old person thing to say. I wasn't trying to be mean about it, it just made me realize why he behaved in that manner. |
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pawntificator 23-Jan-20, 21:53 |
I'm so old I make typographical erros. |
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Hm-mm? After that: We know that all three (at the least) remarked that they despised the Vietnam War, even though one must wonder how truthful JFK and his brother were about the matter. JFK was the only person among the three who could have stopped the war, but instead he marched onward and escalated the war along with his brother who stood behind him and played an unusual combination of roles of campaign director, attorney general, executive overseer, controller of patronage, chief adviser, crime fighter and brother protector for our President. And then both brothers worked hard together to grow the Cuban crisis and the Bay of Pigs fiasco. But then: Martin Luther king made it clear that he hated war and so stated that the children of Vietnam were equally valued in his and his God’s eyes to the children of America. MLK was also disliked by old man J.E. Hoover, who called King “a troublemaker and an enemy of the state” and strongly warmed the ears of both brothers with his opinion that MLK was a communist --- a position which certainly fit well with family friend Joseph McCarthy. Hoover was apparently the type of human animal who was capable of having a good night’s sleep after doing almost anything, so if any of the three assassinations have ties to a conspiracy, it’s the murder of MLK. All three have their place in history but for greatness, honor and hard core love of Man: Martin Luther King is the overwhelming benchmark among them. |
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stalhandske 24-Jan-20, 04:33 |
Mo-one Mo-nine |
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stalhandske 24-Jan-20, 04:46 |
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RFK's brother talked to Sirhan Sirhan in the 80's and later stated that he did NOT believe that Sirhan killed his brother. Two conspiracy theories surrounding RFK's assignation are 1: CIA involvement --- there were a few CIA agents in the crowd , and 2: A second shooter --- there is a tape that argues 13 shots and Sirhans 22 pistol, although emptied, only held 8 rounds. The CIA makes good fodder for conspiracy theorists --- for good reasons, I suppose. |
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Here’s the thing I got better things to do. If I knew the CIA did it, or the Mafia, or three individuals, or Castro, or Lizard people, it would not change how I live today. We have a limited amount of time and energy to study things. I choose to study things that will impact my life and the world today. Things I’m interested in. That’s wisdom. If you try to study everything, you’ll master nothing. |
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stalhandske 24-Jan-20, 06:03 |
Zorro <So. What are you doing differently in your life now that you know the truth about the assassinations? Do tell.> The answer is: NOTHING. But I need to add that I definitely don't claim I know the truth about those assassinations. |
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