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 Wrong Message For AmericaAs a representative of the Democratic Party what take-aways should America make of this very juvenile act? Immature and illegal. Regarding Pelosi’s insane behavior last night: The signed address delivered into Pelosi’s custody wasn’t hers to destroy. Behold the consequence: 18 U.S.C. § 2071(b)— specifically directed at custodians of public records. Any custodian of a public record who "willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys (any record) shall be fined not more than $2,000 or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States." While the range of acts proscribed by this subsection is somewhat narrower than subsection (a), it does provide the additional penalty of forfeiture of position with the United States. Let justice be done. |
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Childish It’s like they’re 12 years old |
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Moving Forward . . . The impasse currently taking place within the American political s notystem doesn't bode well for our country, nor for expecting positive expectations from the Government. The president will continue to be who he is. Can the Democratic Party take the high road and not continue to play petty politics? |
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Ihs Interesting |
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Mitt Romney He appears to still has a capacity to honor his oath. |
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Zorroloco He is a man who said "I love money, I'm a greedy person" He is a man who said that he has never asked God for forgiveness but his faith is important to him. He has settled law suits for , fraud, discrimination, sexual assullt and has been involved in thousands of court cases. He is a slander who has no reign over his tongue or impulses, he is vengeful, decitful, petty, vindictive and uses people until he has no more use for them. Then they get to be trashed on Twitter and made an enemy of, he is a mocker who causes division quick to insight it. What's not to like? Oh then you get the speech b, I voted for him to be my president not my pastor. While ignoring 1 Corinthians 5 and many other verses like it. In this way they renounce God for politics. Which is apostasy. Yet they are blinded by the delusion spoken of in Thessalonians. There is no hope that a human can provide to them, they can't see it, they won't see it. The delusion is too strong. And if you prove beyond all doubt, they still won't believe it, but will turn on you with anger and spite. They will receive their reward in full . So yes, he is who he is, the real question is, who would support such a person and give him pass after pass after pass, even when it comes to violating the Constitution. |
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Patz Putting him in the Oval Office is insane. |
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Choir talk Let alone want him around your daughter. But then: How horrible of us to say that. Violating and mocking the Constitution and God's will --- but then again: It was said, wasn't it Apatzer? MAGA Mo |
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@Zorroloco Z_L, your long list of the president's supposed weaknesses and bad behavior - how much of these kinds of behavior have anyone seen from President Trump since he was elected? You have not noticed, I'm sure because you won't ever watch his speaking, but he has definitely toned down the "New York" tough-guy talk which used to be the only way he talked in the beginning. He said NO SUCH DISPARAGING REMARKS In his State of the Union address, did he? I'll end this post by pointing out Nancy Pelosi threw the first rock when she introduced the president. "Nancy Pelosi broke tradition when introducing Trump at the State of the Union, leaving out the words 'honor' and 'privilege'" House Speaker Nancy Pelosi broke congressional tradition by introducing President Donald Trump as only "the president of the United States." Previous House speakers have introduced the sitting commander in chief by saying they had the "high privilege and distinct honor of presenting to you the president of the United States." Pelosi gave President George W. Bush the full introduction in the 2007 State of the Union address. www.businessinsider.com Moving forward I suggest and highly recommend we in this Club display the kind of etiquette and civil behavior/ speech which we wish to see from our elected representative - please? Somewhere along the line we will lay down our weapons (speech included!) or will use them on one another! |
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Ihs I simply stated my belief that he’d be a bad neighbor. And I certainly wouldn’t trust him around teen girls!!! But you’re right. Since he’s been president, as far as I know, he hasn’t walked into the Teen USA dressing room unannounced, nor publicly bragged about groping women’s genitals. So that’s good. |
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Ihs I ask you honestly, if you knew a man who had willingly walked in a teenage girls dressing room, would you trust his character? It’s a simple question. I dare you to give me a straight answer. |
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Ihs But here’s the thing. She’s not my politician. trump represents me. He’s president of all of us. She’s not. I’m represented by Wyden, Merkley and Schrader. And they hear from me. Her bad behavior is not excuse for his... and anyway, if you’re looking for the lowest bar in DC, look to the Oval Office |
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One last Because you KNOW walking into Miss Teen’s dressing room is inappropriate and wrong and you’d never consider doing it. At least once you weren’t a teen any longer 🤣 |
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@Zorroloco Adults who KNOW what's important don't think about such High School subjects when we become adults. Most of us anyway . . . Shouldn't you move on too? |
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Except And don’t think the way you avoided the question went unnoticed. Here it is again: I ask you honestly, if you knew an adult man who had willingly walked in a teenage girls dressing room, would you trust his character? Would you want him living next door to your teen kids? It’s a simple question. I dare you to give me a straight answer. Second chance. |
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Trivializing predatory behavior Especially females unfortunate enough to share his zip code. |
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Zorroloco IHS replace the name in this situation. Instead of Donald Trump. Use Bill Clinton. And really think about it for a moment. Do your feelings then differ? |
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The only answer you're gonna get from me is that the answer should be obvious. It not only should be obvious, but tabloid/ Jerry Springer topics are something I avoid!!!! If you continue to post on the subject I hope that you can provide me with some information on how it has ANY redeeming qualities. Okay? Thanks |
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Ok Fair enough |
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"Treason" Is Different Than Petty Politics . . . And everyone connected with Treason. "Schweizer & McLeod: Hunter Biden Helped China Acquire ‘Strategically Sensitive Assets’" Hunter Biden’s Chinese investment firm assisted China’s acquisition of “strategically sensitive assets” in the United States, according to a New York Post op-ed (1) by the Government Accountability Institute’s Peter Schweizer and Jacob McLeod. (1). nypost.com Schweizer and McLeod provide further details on the investments former Vice President Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, facilitated via his Chinese-backed investment firm. In 2013, less than two weeks after accompanying his father on an official visit to Beijing–and despite his lack of pertinent expertise–Hunter Biden secured $1 billion (later raised to $1.5 billion) from the state-owned Bank of China for his newly formed investment firm, Bohai Harvest RST (BHR). This was in addition to the first-of-its-kind deal the Chinese government awarded Biden’s private equity firm Rosemont Seneca in the recently formed Shanghai Free-Trade Zone, a deal that allowed the firm to focus on international acquisitions. “With the backing of the state-owned Bank of China, one of the country’s ‘big four’ financial institutions, BHR had access to the types of deals that most Western firms only dreamed of, including IPOs of state-owned companies,” Schweizer and McLeod write, noting that Biden’s firm “invested in strategically sensitive assets in both China and the United States.” www.breitbart.com "A GOP Senate chair is investigating Hunter Biden's business dealings in China" A Republican senator will investigate whether Hunter Biden's business dealings with a Chinese company while his father, Joe, was vice president created a conflict of interest and possible national security issues, according to the Washington Free Beacon. Biden joined the BHR board in 2013. In 2015, BHR, in partnership with the Aviation Industry Corporation of China, acquired the U.S. auto company Henniges Automotive for $600 million. Henniges produces technologies that have military applications. The Aviation Industry Corporation of China has been suspected in the past of hacking U.S. networks to steal military airplane designs for their own use. At the time of that deal, John Kerry was secretary of state, and had to approve the transaction. Christopher Heinz, Kerry's stepson, worked with Biden at Rosemont Seneca. Grassley first raised questions about the transaction in August, concerned that the influence of Obama administration officials might have pressured the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States to approve the deal. CFIUS evaluates such deals for potential national security implications. "There is cause for concern that potential conflicts of interest could have influenced CFIUS approval of the Henniges transaction," Grassley wrote. "Accordingly, Congress and the public must fully understand the decision-making process that led to the Henniges approval and the extent to which CFIUS fully considered the transaction's national security risks." www.theblaze.com "Biden BUSTED in Shocking China Scandal" As first reported by The Hill, Hunter Biden, who arrived in China aboard Air Force Two alongside his father and the rest of the U.S. delegation, was at the time in control of Rosemont Seneca Partners LLC., a private equity firm. That firm that would go on to strike a deal with the state-owned Bank of China to create a $1 billion joint investment fund. And according to multiple excerpts from the upcoming book… Hunter Biden met with top Chinese government fund leaders alongside managing partner Devon Archer and James Bulger, the nephew of notorious mobster Whitey Bulger. The meeting took place just hours before Vice President Biden would meet with Hu Jintao, then China's president, in Washington as part of a nuclear security summit. A second meeting that year between Hunter Biden and other top Chinese officials would occur in Taiwan, just two weeks after Vice President Biden opened up strategic talks with China in Washington. In 2013, the younger Biden would be part of an official U.S. delegation to China. Ten days later, Rosemont entities inked a $1 billion deal with the Bank of China. The deal was eventually increased to $1.5 billion. Hunter Biden’s deals with China would go on to have serious national security implications for the United States. One such deal was with the automotive subsidiary of Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC), a major Chinese military contractor accused of frequently stealing U.S. military technology. americauncensored.com "USA Grounds for Treason" The base question is what grounds must a president have to initiate arrests on the basis of treason. What evidence must be had, if any. In the event of a suspected Coup, what acts may the president undertake. What Is Treason? Treason is the only crime defined in the U.S. Constitution, at Article III, Section 3 which says: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying war against them, or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort. No person shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in open court. The Congress shall have power to declare the punishment of treason, but no attainder of treason shall work corruption of blood, or forfeiture except during the life of the person attainted. law.stackexchange.com |
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Zorro . . . Fair enough >> I wonder how much of an issue is President Trump's "character", and how that bears on his ability to perform the office of the American president compared to the general mud slinging and character assassination which is everywhere directed at the president by his detractors - such as yourself? |
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What? Lol I think I’m done here. My boots aren’t tall enough |
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Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. So I guess not allowing witnesses would be a very good strategy. |
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Your definition Donald j Trump is not a sovereign. |
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inhis_service 06-Feb-20, 19:26 |
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