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Softie “...to the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee; for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee.” ― Herman Melville |
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Falling Apart? |
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Damage Done What former president ever dared incite insurrection against our own government? Yet people still want him back, to serve along side Vice President JFK. Dorothy Thompson, wife of "It Can't Happen Here" author Sinclar Lewis, wrote an article, "Who Goes Nazi?". Fascinating insight into the populism Groper tapped to fuel his campaign and undermine faith in our institutions of government and free press. Who Goes Nazi? Groper scored about nine out of ten key attributes of a dictator. |
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There are NO protestors from Jan 6 who have been charged with insurrection. How can it be "insurrection" if the government cannot try one person for insurrection? I challenged LS to find a bigger blunder, in world history, than the retreat from Afghanistan. The dementia-ridden fool in the White House left the country without removing hundreds to thousands of Americans or the thousands of Afghans who assisted us while there, at their great peril. He gave to our mortal enemy over $80 BILLION of military hardware, equipment, weapons, aircraft, computers and software plus a very sophisticated airport. THAT is treason. He knew the country was going to fall and he lied to the world about it. THAT is treason. He made NO attempt to get the people out before he withdrew. THAT was TREASON. He and Hunter have spent decades selling influence peddling to the highest bidder. THAT is treason... at least criminal actions. |
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Dementia Ridden Fool The British were beaten out of Afghanistan not once, but twice. The Russians were forced to withdraw. We can all feel fortunate this withdrawal was conducted by a thoughtful, mature administration instead of the idiot predessessor. What an unmitigated disaster THAT would have been! Much worse than his destruction of the Iran nuclear pact. I was just thinking about all the bad press Biden has received. Most of it false. We thought we had not added nearly as many jobs over the summer as we actually had, undercounting by 600,000. Now we learn new jobless claims are at a 50 year low. The economy has been steaming along. None of Groper's pawns were involved in planning the insurrection. They knew they were involved, but they were not the architects. Those treasonous designs were drawn up by Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, and of course Groper himself. The con man has a lot of other charges coming down the pike. It will be interesting to see how many years behind bars he gets. Provided JFK does not accept a position as his VP, of course. |
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Influence Peddling What evidence have you, outside the lies of Corsi, repeated by Giuliani and Groper, either Biden received the quid pro quo Grope sought? |
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LS You are so much smarter and better than the reply you just posted. You can do so much better than that. You harm yourself when you make those appallingly weak replies. I will drop this now out of respect for you and the good reply that you could have posted. |
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Soft Those who will likely be charged for insurrection, and possibly murder are mostly waiting in jail until the Federal courts rid the dockets of those who committed lessor crimes. The legal system generally works from the bottom up when large numbers of defendants are involved, because the lower level defendants can always take an offer to rat on the bosses in return for a lighter sentence. |
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It Was Not a Hoax "It is not pro Trumpers who are leading the latest round of Trump-Russia denialism." Read the Senate Intelligence Committee report, chaired by Richard Burr (R). Burr was subordinate to Devin Nunes, who had to step down as committe chair after compromising himself in the investigation. The interference and coordination these cats ran on behalf of the subject of the investigation is just incredible. Damn. I had a page of documented text my device just farted off. Frustrating as hell! |
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mo-oneandmore 25-Nov-21, 11:44 |
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softee Don't hold your breath, America;s system if law is a slow mover (especially the criminal system) with lots of investigation and more talkin. |
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Russiagate was Not a Hoax Mo makes a good point, as usual. Justice is even slower if you're not black, and slower still if you're politically connected. I wish my device had not pissed away all the stuff I had written--so highly irritating! It was beautifully connected, all laid on--then whoosh! I'm sure we have all had that happen from time to time. Anyway, I will reconstruct piecemeal the essential points. Over 20% of the condominiums Trump sold were paid for by cash through shell corporations. Can you say "money laundering?" Sure, I knew you could. Quote: If Donald Trump had been supported only by people who affirmatively liked him, his attack on American democracy would never have gotten as far as it did. Instead, at almost every turn, Trump was helped by people who had little liking for him as a human being or politician, but assessed that he could be useful for purposes of their own. The latest example: the suddenly red-hot media campaign to endorse Trump’s fantasy that he was the victim of a “Russia hoax.” The usual suspects in the pro-Trump media ecosystem will of course endorse and repeat everything Trump says, no matter how outlandish. But it’s not pro-Trumpers who are leading the latest round of Trump-Russia denialism. This newest round of excuse-making is being sounded from more respectable quarters, in many cases by people distinguished as Trump critics. ... The factual record on Trump-Russia has been set forth most authoritatively by the report of the Senate Intelligence Committee, then chaired by Richard Burr, a Republican from North Carolina. [Richard Burr was subordinate to Devin Nunes, who had to recuse himself after revealing he was complicit in sharing intelligence with the White House--information leaked to the press it turns out came FROM the White House. In other words, Nunes was running interference on behalf of the prime suspect of a criminal investigation. House Republicans on the committee continued antics on behalf of their crime lord, refusing to subpoena relevant documents OR to interview witnesses. When they DID cross examine witnesses, their questions tended to be both irrelevant and designed to rebuff incrimination.] Quote: Dating back to at least 2006, Trump and his companies did tens of millions of dollars of business with Russian individuals and other buyers whose profiles raised the possibility of money laundering. More than one-fifth of all the condominiums sold by Trump over his career were purchased in all-cash transactions by shell companies. In 2013, Trump’s pursuit of Russian business intensified. That year, he staged the Miss Universe pageant in Moscow. Around that time, Trump opened discussions on the construction of a Trump Tower in Moscow, from which he hoped to earn “hundreds of millions of dollars, if the project advanced to completion Trump continued to pursue the Tower deal for a year after he declared himself a candidate for president. “By early November 2015, Trump and a Russia-based developer signed a Letter of Intent laying out the main terms of a licensing deal." [Have we ever had a more thoroughly compromised commander in chief?] Repeatedly during the 2016 campaign, Trump falsely stated that he had no business with Russia. Early in 2016, President Putin ordered an influence operation to “harm the Clinton Campaign, tarnish an expected Clinton presidential administration, help the Trump Campaign after Trump became the presumptive Republican nominee, and undermine the U.S. democratic process.” [Did he act on his own, with a full understanding of the harm he would create both for the US and the rest of the world? It is obvious now he enjoyed the full cooperation of multiple members of Groper's campaign staff--including Manager Paul Manafort, whom Groper pardoned for collusion.] [This is the most critical part:] The Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos “likely learned about the Russian active measures campaign as early as April 2016,” the Senate Intelligence Committee wrote. In May 2016, Papadopoulos indiscreetly talked with Alexander Downer, then the Australian high commissioner to the United Kingdom, about Russia’s plot to intervene in the U.S. election to hurt Clinton and help Trump. Downer described the conversation in a report to his government. By long-standing agreement, Australia shares intelligence with the U.S. government. It was Papadopoulos’s blurt to Downer that set in motion the FBI investigation of Russia’s interference in the 2016 presidential election. [So it is a bald faced lie that the investigation was started over the contents of the Steele Dossier. We'll probably see more on that later, however.] In June 2016, the Trump campaign received a request for a meeting from a Russian lawyer offering harmful information on Hillary Clinton. Donald Trump Jr. and other senior Trump advisers accepted the meeting. The Trump team did not obtain the dirt they’d hoped for. But the very fact of the meeting confirmed to the Russian side the Trump campaign’s eagerness to accept Russian assistance. Shortly after, Trump delivered his “Russia, if you’re listening” invitation at his last press conference of the campaign. [Got that? "I love it," Groper Junior said, in response to the offer of dirt on Hillary. That dirt was not forthcoming during the initial meeting (apparently), but delivered via the assistance of Roger Stone--ALSO pardoned by Groper for collusion through Wikileaks. More than 30 Russian agents were indicted in Mueller's investigation]. [Groper himself insisted that if a foreign government offered dirt on a political rival, he would eagerly accept it. Is this the same thing as Washington Free Beacon (a conservative group) purchasing opposition research from a British firm? LOL. Not remotely close.] At crucial moments in the 2016 election, Trump publicly took positions that broke with past Republican policy and served no apparent domestic political purpose, but that supported Putin’s foreign-policy goals: scoffing at NATO support for Estonia, denigrating allies such as Germany, and endorsing Britain’s exit from the European Union. Throughout the 2016 election and after, people close to Trump got themselves into serious legal and political trouble by lying to the public, to Congress, and even to the FBI about their Russian connections. All of these are facts that would be agreed upon even by the latter-day “Russia hoax” revisionists and, for that matter, anybody this side of Breitbart or One America News Network. Since Donald Trump declared for president in 2015, it’s seldom been possible to get to the bottom of one scandal before Trump distracts attention with a bigger and worse scandal. For more than a year, the United States has been convulsed by Trump’s frontal assault on election integrity and the peaceful transfer of power. He has, one by one, eliminated from politics Republicans who upheld the rule of law, and urged their replacement by stooges who repeat his Big Lie. Republican candidates for office talk more and more explicitly about taking power by violence if necessary. These dark threats have understandably overwhelmed the effort to fill in the blanks of the Trump-Russia scandal of yesteryear. It remains fact that Russian hackers and spies helped his campaign. It remains fact that the Trump campaign welcomed the help. It remains fact that Trump’s campaign chairman... share[d] proprietary campaign information with a... “Russian intelligence officer.” It remains fact that Trump hoped to score a huge payday in Russia even as he ran for president. It remains fact that Trump and those around him lied, and lied, and lied again about their connections to Russia. [Note: Comments in brackets are mine, the rest is quoted from the cited site.] |
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Ambassador Yovanovitch Softaire, you take issue with my comments about Jerome Corsi spreading lies repeated by Giuliani and Groper. The lie was that Ukraine had the CrowdStrike DNC server. Such stupidity barely deserves rebuke, but as someone thoroughly versed in rack mounted internet server systems (I toured the LIGO's impressive facility), the notion the email resides on one particular device is simply ludicrous. www.wired.com "Almost every aspect of this [claim] is demonstrably wrong. CrowdStrike is not a Ukrainian company. The company is based in Sunnyvale, California" [not Ukraine]. CrowdStrike never took physical possession of any DNC server. [While taking individual computers from a private individual trafficking in child porn, or a business engaged in corruption makes sense--interfering with distributed public cloud servers is not how one traces illicit international hacking activity]. "Analysts instead captured an 'image' of the hard drives and memories of affected machines, exact replicas that it could examine for signs of malfeasance... All of that forensic evidence [was handed] over to the FBI... The Republican National Congressional Committee among [CrowdStrike's] clients." So what we see are Corsi created lies reminiscent of Corsi's lies about John Kerry's military service. As a Vietnam veteran yourself you agree Kerry's treatment was horrific, I trust. Almost as appalling as the treatment John McCain received at the porcine lips of Groper, who dismissed the former POW as a "loser" and other war veterans as suckers and fools. If they were as smart as Cadet Bone Spurs they would have received dubious medical deferments just as enormous brained Groper did, MAGA. |
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is that... "Trump is bad". Trump still infects his head. A classic sign of TDS. |
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Groper Negotiated Worse Withdrawal Terms Like a traitor. |
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mo-oneandmore 26-Nov-21, 05:32 |
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Soft See *** The Big Lie(s) *** Build the Wall (40 miles worth) *** Liberals are commies *** MAGA *** The 1/6 insurrection attempt was like a typical visitors day at the Capital *** The immigrants are taking our jobs *** World's best business man *** Smarter than anybody in the room *** Best president *** Putin's best friend *** Covid (China virus) is like the flu *** The China Trade War (Chinas Gross National Product increased almost times 4 during the four years of trump and China, as of 2020, is now #1 in the world) *** Trump is a great among great men who is annointed by God, is highly educated and knows more than most. See "My daughter is a fine piece of ass" Then add in another 30,000 and growing lies. |
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Soft Good Republicans and good Democrats need to rediscover that. And we don't need trump muddying the waters of democracy with his ugliness. |
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Most of his policies have been cancelled or reversed since January. You can see the new problems that have happened since then because of that: inflation crisis- costs in everything are rising supply line crisis- shortages in goods, trucks and workers energy crisis- no longer energy independent, costs are rising immigration crisis- uncontrolled open borders, lack of movement on legislation Covid crisis- worse than before, vaccines not working well crime crisis- at all time highs, city killings at all time highs homeless crisis- at all time highs drug usage crisis- at all time highs concerns about foreign friends being possibly being invaded by enemies |
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soft Here's four arguments to your premises --- I'll get back to the others later. "Inflation crisis" : Inflation is high at the moment, but the economy is surprisingly strong and Inflation is a never ending woild wide game --- if you think America is experiencing high inflation, check out some of the other developed countries. "Supply line crisis": It's due to many reasons --- shortage of containers, inadequate container ports (China has the two largest, of course), poor planning and a long time corporate policy of limiting product receiving to amount of goods that are expected to be needed for a few months ___ reduces storage space needs and increases profits (see capitalism gone awry). "Energy crisis"(you use the wo0rd "crisis" too often): There is no energy "Crisis": Fuel cost move up and down for many reasons --- occluding the current matter that OPEC has reduced production to increase the cost of oil per barrel, and, less you forger: Gas was approach $4.50/gallon during the Bush years, Immigration "crisis": Immigration is higher than normal because of past flow reduction that resulted from the pandemic and unfair practices that were applied by the trump administration --- And Immigration as well as illegal entry has been occurring on our southern AND our Northern borders for over a century (there are more undocumented immigrants who entered by way of our Northern border than by our southern border, but nobody seems to worry about them because they look more like us.), |
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Mo And, I find it very coincidental that this has all happened since January. |
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Immigration Crisis Biden got infrastructure done, something Groper promised but never delivered. Groper promised to repeal health care, and failed in that (thank God). Six million jobs were lost under Groper. More jobs were created during Biden's first six months in office than during Groper's first three years. America is getting back on track. We no longer have an idiot lying laughingstock as president. Biden has cleaned a little bit of the horrible stain left by Groper. There is about twelve years more work to recover from Groper's depredations. Our foreign embassies lack representation, thanks to Moscow Mitch and Groper's assault on out diplomatic corps. That will take a decade or more to repair, to rebuild relationships and trust that evaporated under the Evil Puppet. One thing I must hand to Papa Bush, he was food at foreign relations. His background with the CIA gave him a great deal of understanding of both our allies and foes. While Bush Junior had no such experience, he retained most of Papa Bush's staff. We all agree Iraq was a debacle based on lies. A black mark we will never outlive. But Trump? All that can be said is that he did not embroil us in another pointless war. His negotiations with terrorists and nixing of the Iran Nuclear Deal were enormous blunders. Nowhere near Iraq sized, but horrible all the same. |
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Supply Shortages I buy Costco bulk TP. So when the shortage hit I had made my annual purchase four months earlier. I only recently had to buy more--so no dirty bottoms or soiled bath towels here. But local shelves have had most everything we have wanted. Except for canning lids. That has been a chronic shortage for months. Aside from pickles and grape jelly we did not do much canning this year. It is just such a relief knowing I'm not going to see grossly misspelled tweets from the white house every other morning attacking celebrities who have bruised the President's fragile ego, shaming our nation. |
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Inflation There is no energy "crisis.". This price rise is not fueled by any change in federal policy, so it is hard to lay blame at Biden's feet. Remember when the price of oil went negative under Groper? That was pretty insane. Things got pretty bad under Bush, as Mo noted, but even then I would not say there had been a crisis. Not like there was under Jimmy Carter, and the OPEC troubles. We need to wean ourselves off finite fossil fuel, because a crisis is coming--two of them. And Groper undid any attempt at reform made by EVERY administration since Eisenhower. Coal consumption did continue to fall under Groper, though through no thanks to him. |
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Softee ***Covid crisis: First off: It's not a "crisis, it's a pandemic which means that it/s world wide and secondly: I thought I thought you were smarter than that, because the math to prove the effective of the vaccines is quite simple: so to round the numbers out for you: About 70% of our citizens HAVE received the vaccine and the remainder have not either because they are stupid, they're afraid of he government, or they are politically driven to listen to the lies of trump and his cronies, So we today we have a reverse infected ratio of about 30% of those who did get the vaccine and a 70% ratio tot the 30% of the citizens who did not get the vaccine --- can you see the effigy factor for the vaccines --- the effigy factor rounds out to about 90%, which is more or less what Dr. Fauci was hoping for --- not that it's 100$ effective, soft but it does help --- just like wearing masks helps and why a combination of both works even better. |
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Mutation Softaire, have you taken the Covid shot? My wife and I lost a friend to the disease who was only 52, no comorbidities, last month. He did not survive long after he was infected. Really nice guy. His daughter lives on her own now--fortunately she is old enough to care for herself. |
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Omicron It will be some months yet before we develop a clear picture just how lethal it is, and how susceptible the vaccinated are to it. One thing is for certain, we have NEVER lost 800,000 Americans to the flu. Therefore Jeanine "it's just the flu" Pierro may be safely dismissed as a blithering idiot. |
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As the most infected by covid country in the world, there's little doubt that the events of new covid variants are massive here |
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