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dmaestro 16-Jan-22, 20:06	New Understanding of Evolution news.google.com Nature builds on what works. The proof mutations are not just by chance is another blow to the anti-evolutionists.
stalhandske 16-Jan-22, 21:09	In my view this is not really surprising. It just shows that the different regions of DNA are differently exposed to mutations, the reason being the 'covering' of DNA strands by protein structures, which are not homogeneously distributed
softaire 16-Jan-22, 21:30	I'm certainly no expert on this but it seems to me that the article said that I'd be smarter to put my money in the bank where it wouldn't mutate into non-existence rather than to put it under my mattress where it might. Also: "The proof mutations are not just by chance is another blow to the anti-evolutionists." That makes it sound like it is favoring "intelligent design". ???
stalhandske 17-Jan-22, 21:13	Softaire I think the term 'random' is misused here. Mutations are still distributed randomly. It is only that the recipient of those mutations - the DNA - is not randomly exposed to mutations. This is because the various regions of DNA are 'covered' differently by protein, which prevents mutations. This 'cover' has itself emerged/developed randomly originally, but during evolution the 'best way of covering' has survived. Again precisely as Darwin's theory predicts. Covering 'bad areas' won't survive and won't therefore be inherited. I see absolutely no favour of intelligent design over classical Darwin theory.
softaire 18-Jan-22, 07:33	From your description it does not. From DM's, it does. It opens a lot of very interesting possibilities however. We could be discussing these possibilities as well as us all living in a computer program or like the Matrix. Does this discovery, or theory, move us any closer to knowing the origin of life?
stalhandske 18-Jan-22, 07:48	Softaire <Does this discovery, or theory, move us any closer to knowing the origin of life? > It is really a discovery noting how protein 'shields' on DNA are not homogeneous, but protect certain areas better than others. No, this finding does not really tell us anything further on the origin of life. It just emphasises that the basically Darwinian evolution principle is far more complex than understood earlier. In some way it is like finding yet another layer of Darwinian control on top of the classical one.
pawntificator 18-Jan-22, 23:47	I was watching the hummingbird documentary narrated by David Attenborough and it's just remarkable how much they simply don't know. They are just making interesting guesses. Nobody knows anything.
stalhandske 19-Jan-22, 01:13	No reason to rub it in. We all know that you know....nothing.
pawntificator 19-Jan-22, 01:23	I know one thing. I'm not telling you, though.
stalhandske 21-Jan-22, 08:13	<I know one thing. I'm not telling you, though. > Right, please don't tell me as it will be bulls' manure anyway
dmaestro 21-Jan-22, 12:49	Stal is correct. We know so much more about evolution since 1857 when Darwin proposed the basic theory. Darwin’s failures on details are what anti-evolutionists focus on: www.google.com. Nature builds on what already exists. That’s why the monkey typing encyclopedia refutation claim is based on fallacy.

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