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stalhandske 25-Jan-22, 06:01 |
Typical Soft Air. |
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Like he once said when asked by a reporter what he would do is trump had gone to school with him. <<<I'd take him out back and kick the shit out of him>>> |
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stalhandske 25-Jan-22, 08:34 |
Softaire <You seem to be becoming as senile and dementia-ridden as our President. Plus... you are becoming more and more nasty about it too.> I see, thanks for the kind words. Again, I don't see what was nasty in my reply, but may be that can be deemed to be due to dementia, too? You asked a question that made little or no sense to me, and of damn little importance. Which is why I forgot it. |
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dmaestro 25-Jan-22, 09:19 |
The Fox question was a silly, gotcha one: “do you think inflation is a political liability in the midterms?”. It’s a stupid question—of course inflation is a political liability—what idiot would say otherwise. Sure the Reporter was doing his job abs as Biden said to him later it’s not personal. The hypocrisy from Trumpers who openly despise and demean those who don’t agree is stunning. |
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(Not very presidential and very off-putting to the middle and undecided) |
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stalhandske 25-Jan-22, 09:30 |
Softaire (Not very presidential and very off-putting to the middle and undecided)> I completely agree, but where were you when Trump told reporters and others much worse? Soft in the air? |
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dmaestro 25-Jan-22, 09:41 |
mobile.reuters.com The Conservatives (see first link) just don’t and won’t accept information (second link) contrary to their beliefs and apparently lack the basic analytical skills to understand why they are wrong. The chronic rejection of Fact checking and natural frustration with their inability to discuss fact they see as “nasty”. That’s why conservatism is now a faith based personality cult. There is a good reason why more and more many of us now just write conservatives off. Might as well talk to the hand as expect any sense. All these self appointed, genius level, right wing “medical experts” who “know” Biden has dementia and so much nonsense about CV are not going to be influenced by rational, fast based discussions. |
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DM You write and imply that only non-vaxxers are spreading the disease when the CDC itself says vaccines do NOT prevent the spread of the disease. YOU are spreading misinformation as well as more hate and discontent with your biased "analysis's". |
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dmaestro 25-Jan-22, 09:46 |
It was a stupid question anyway. We are in a civil war. That’s not going away. |
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dmaestro 25-Jan-22, 10:05 |
Softaire We know the vaccines are more protective than no vaccine and masks social distancing is better than nothing. Most of the dead and seriously ill are the unvaxxed. For example as I said the flu shot is usually only around 50% effective at preventing flu and only 50% get it, but the vaxx is much more effective at keeping illness less serious. So risk management says get the vaxx. And we know because flu disappeared last year masks etc. work better than nothing—not perfectly but enough. When the unvaxxed take up most of the medical resources and act as incubators for mutations you get what we see. If we had a 90% vaxx rate we’d have much less spread and serious cases. There can be no fact based discussions with you Trumpers because you only believe alternate facts. You get angry because you can’t convert us but we are fed up with your belief based arguments. It gets old… |
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DM What I disagreed with was your previous posts where you imply (by omission of the fact that vaxxed people can also transmit the disease) that only nonvaxxers are spreading it. That simply isn't true. But your biased reporting is spreading disinformation and enflaming weaker mined people. There is also a lot of evidence that vaccinations and boosters cause harm and that the testing has not been done correctly or to standards and reporting has been flawed, if not deceitful. Pawni out out a very good video about that. The rushed rollout implies this. At least, it has to be considered carefully. Masks and social distancing do nothing and have no effect one way or the other. proof of that are the many large stadium sized events that caused no outbreaks. The lockdowns did nothing, except to harm the economy and many small businesses and their employees. It did NOT stop the pandemic... as we see today. |
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dmaestro 25-Jan-22, 10:23 |
And what is worse is the vaccines like many lose effectiveness over time but due to right wing propaganda only around 30% or so got boosters. kfor.com Coronavirus immunity as we know from the colds caused by ancient epidemics doesn’t last a lifetime. Until we finish a universal vaccine our effective herd immunity over time gets low. Arguing science here with those who can not or will not understand it does nothing. |
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So you are saying that Blacks are the major problem with spreading Covid? |
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dmaestro 25-Jan-22, 10:32 |
You fail to understand viruses just don’t care and it’s also about others including those whose immune systems are weak or who can’t take the vaxx. Antivaxxers are like those who let the Trojan Horse in so the whole country falls. |
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dmaestro 25-Jan-22, 10:48 |
thecurrentga.org That’s not accurate in context; it’s more or the subtle racism on the right to focus on blacks as the problem. Conservatives are far more likely to not vaxx. Socioeconomic factors and living in conservative areas for minorities play a role. www.pnas.org If we had 90% vaxx rates among whites we just would not have the issues. But in fact politics is the biggest factor. Try reading studies and data first; realizing the slick antivaxx propaganda is just that. |
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The god complex seems to be rampant coming from that quarter. |
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stalhandske 25-Jan-22, 19:57 |
That video was scrutinised very clearly in Fiat Lux (I did provide the link), and the conclusions were shown to be the result of a completely false way of looking at the statistics. <Masks and social distancing do nothing and have no effect one way or the other. proof of that are the many large stadium sized events that caused no outbreaks.> This is one of the most stupid conclusions I have ever seen in these threads. <The lockdowns did nothing, except to harm the economy and many small businesses and their employees. It did NOT stop the pandemic... as we see today.> Another really stupid comment. Of course lockdowns harm economy and many small (and large) businesses and their employees! The entire point is to find a balance such that this harm is minimised as well as minimising the risks of the disease. I am one of the first to admit, however, that - many times - the lockdowns have not been very well planned. Buerocrats have not really done a proper homework! |
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pawntificator 26-Jan-22, 00:06 |
The worst thing Trump did was tell the press that they were lying to their faces. Biden just wants to call them names. It's pathetic. It reminds me of when he was addressing the military. "Clap for that you stupid bastards." To pretend to be as posh as dmaestro for a minute, when you analyse the way the media treats the behavior of these two presidents you can only intelligently come to one conclusion. |
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pawntificator 26-Jan-22, 00:12 |
The reality, of course, is that CNN is fake news and they don't care about anything but getting clicks on their ridiculous reporting of reality, which they portray as a fantasy world. |
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dmaestro 26-Jan-22, 10:10 |
Thumper Conservatives it’s clear from the pandemic etc. appear to have a natural weakness towards the false equivalency fallacy, because that is most of what their claims are based on. You all want misinformation to be treated as of equal weight, alternative “facts”. That’s sadly fatal to serious discussions where fact matters. |
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DM BTW, Softie didn't just come up with that. He simply shared in this thread what's already out there on the net. |
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dmaestro 26-Jan-22, 12:26 |
Thumper Wikipedia has issues because of self editing but philosophically they are on target. We never agreed but back when I was serious I favored practices examining the sources for controversial claims and extraordinary evidence to claim mainstream expert reviewed sources are wrong. Ideally trolling would end and sources would be evaluated by reliability. When someone claims for example vaccines are more dangerous than not, and don’t work, and experts have done a deep dive and shown the facts and data don’t support that, if we can’t agree then, discussions have reached the end are just done except for bickering. I realize Softaire read that off conservative sites, I did too. But simple fact checking and data analysis shows it’s wrong. We spend too much time debating dubious claims and you can’t expect much serious discussions; what you see is various forms of dismissal and mockery as a result. |
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stalhandske 26-Jan-22, 15:02 |
Thumper To me, too, facts are synonymous with reality and truth. You don't define whom you mean by 'you guys' but it sounds like you include me in that group. Please, let me know if that is right or if I am mistaken. |
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stalhandske 26-Jan-22, 15:29 |
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