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dominick1952 11-Nov-20, 11:27	chess theory position 001 I will begin by talking about pet lines I have used over the years that have opponents staring at opening they have never seen before. I have gone beyond MCO and explored lines from the 1930's or earlier and found ideas forgotten or where proper analysis was not applied. In the French defense... I have won many exciting games by playing as white 1.e4.e6.2.b3! move 2. takes the typical French player out of the books and takes many players out of their comfort zone where fear lives. The normal response by black is 2.d5 now white plays 3.bb2..after 3.d5xe4 white plays 4.nc3 the only good response is nf6..f5 is unsound and now 5.qe2 is best...look at this position. Black's French game looks different from anything normal. White will win back the pawn on e4 and castle long with a good game.I sat at a table during a large tournament with 4 masters in San Diego in 2015 showing this opening...one of the masters said he had never see an opening like this! In the book of proverbs it is said that a surprised man is half beaten. I find this opening sound and offering great chances for white especially in over the board play. Test this for yourself. Don't take my word for it. Comments are necessary for growth and welcome.
5imon 11-Nov-20, 11:55	Position after 1. e4 e6 2. b3 d5 3. Bb2 dxe4 4. Nc3 Nf6
brigadecommander 11-Nov-20, 11:59	Deleted by brigadecommander on 11-Nov-20, 12:51.
brigadecommander 11-Nov-20, 12:13	Dom Is your variation called the 'C00: French, Reti (Spielmann) variation??
thumper 11-Nov-20, 12:28	On a most basic level, what is your opening moves strategy? When you're talking among yourselves and bouncing move sequences back and forth: 1. e4 e6 2. b3 d5 3. Bb2 dxe4 4. Nc3 Nf6; Berlin Defense against the Ruy Lopez; French, Reti (Spielmann) variation, etc... You're talking a language you all understand well but the average player just glazes over reading it. It would be nice if one of you would from time to time break down into layman's terms, the 'reason'.
brigadecommander 11-Nov-20, 12:37	my bad thump Doms proposal was for a certain variation in a certain Opening. I should not have changed the direction of the discussion. My point was basically that i never play the French. Sorry.
zorroloco 11-Nov-20, 12:48	Opening theory For me is simple, which is why I suck... Control the center, activate pieces, castle, try not to fall into a basic trap
dominick1952 11-Nov-20, 12:52	brigade yes...also called the french gambit by some sources
5imon 11-Nov-20, 12:55	The French defence Thumper - I don't know much about the French Defense but the general idea is as follows. 1.e4 e6 Black's idea with this defence is to challenge the centre by playing d5 and challenging to challenge the pawn on e4 2. d4 - white takes advantage of being able to put both pawns in the centre, d5 black responds and challenges the e4-pawn. At this point white has a few main options 3.e5 - to take a slight space advantage. Black generally attacks on the queenside and white attacks on the kingside. The black bishop on c8 traditionally struggles to get into the game. 3. exd5 - white exchanges and after ...exd5 it's a fairly symmetric position. 3. Nc3 - white tries to defend the e4 pawn though black has the opportunity to play 3...Bb4 in order to pin the knight so that it no longer defends e4 3. Nd2 - white tries to defend the e4-pawn. Now 3..Bb4 can be met with 4.c3 Dominick's idea is to avoid a lot of this theory by playing 2. b3 instead to get out of theory and try to get an interesting position which will be less known to the opponent.
dominick1952 11-Nov-20, 13:05	Thumper from the set position in the french gambit.. White wants to take control of e4 by occupation with a knight or by control...g3 and bg2. In some lines White can play a very dangerous gambit with g4..playing for for g5 to disrupt the black knight on f6. After white plays o-o-o he can then play d4 at some point to take central space. The white queen is placed well on e2 as she can move to either side quickly. This is by no means won but white has a good game and black must play a position unfamiliar in most cases.
dominick1952 11-Nov-20, 13:28	chess theory 002 ruy lopez quiet variation In the Ruy Lopez after 1.e4.e5.2.nf3.nc6.3.bb5.a6 4.ba4.nf6 most modern games continue with 5.o-o. Playing 5.o-o allows lots of heavy analysis after Nxe4. This also allows the dangerous Marshall gambit. In the early 1980's Karpov started playing 5.d3! Many grandmasters said that since the goal for white is to get d4 in, d3 was a loss of tempo as now it takes 2 moves to play d4 instead of one. I disagree because this is a closed position. Tempo loss means nothing in a closed game. In an open game the loss of one tempo can prove fatal but in this case the move 5.d3 has a deeper meaning. The idea is to get all the pieces developed before playing d4 so that the breaking move with have a greater effect. This quiet move also side steps many prepared lines. As an example. typical play from here follow like this.. 5...d6 6.c3.g6 7.o-o.bg7. 8.re1. o-o 9.b1-d2...after the normal ...b5 10.bc2 is best. In many games I have played the knight on d2 to f1 and g3 giving white fair chances for a kingside attack. Comments ?
apatzer 11-Nov-20, 13:52	Magnus Carlsen has also played 5.d3!? Many times. IMHO this move is designed to get black out of book and thinking on his own as early as possible. In this way the player with the better understanding will gain the advantage. IMO this opening is better used OTB , because in correspondence you may just cause your oppent to do more research.
apatzer 11-Nov-20, 13:55	And BTW. The opening usually turnes into the... Ruy López Opening: Morphy Defense, Breyer, Quiet Variation
dominick1952 11-Nov-20, 13:59	the point of opening theory When you have white or black. if you have a clear idea on the type of position and strategic objectives, in an over the board game of say g/45 where you only have 45 minutes to play an entire game, you save valuable time to devote your analysis on the middle and endgame play.
brigadecommander 11-Nov-20, 14:00	i think on 5.d3 i would respond with 5...Bc5. With equal chances. Which is the usual goal when playing with the Black pieces.
dominick1952 11-Nov-20, 14:06	brigade after 5.bc5 I like 6.o-o.b5 7.bb3 d6.8.c3 and yes it is equal
brigadecommander 11-Nov-20, 14:16	To give people and idea of the BATTLE that can take place in this Opening, i give you this Magnificent game by Kasparov vs Karpov. But it is not the 5.d3 line. Though Black looses i have studied this game extensively and i 'think' i have an improvement for Black. But i have not had the opportunity to play it...yet. So here goes guys. Everyone can learn from this game,;play loud ;www.youtube.com
dominick1952 11-Nov-20, 14:30	chess theory position 003 fighting against the caro kann I consider the Caro Kann to be one of the most important closed opening.. I again have a pet line that can easily take the unprepared second player into deep waters. After 1.e4.c6 I break right away with 2.c4...after d5.3.c4xd5. c6xd5. 4.e4xd5 ...taking back with qxd5 is not correct...best is 4...nf6 This is where I break the rules..5.qa4+ now beginners are told to not come out early with the queen and that is good advice but at master level, analysis betters rigid theory. Many ways for black to go wrong now...the instinctive 5..bd7 is very bad as 6.qb3.qc7.7.nc3.a6 8.d4 and white is clearly better. so best for black is b8-d7.6.nc3.g6 7.nf3.bg7. 8.bc4.o-o 9.d3. a6 10.qa3. The idea here is not to attempt to hold on to the extra pawn..the goal is to give black a cramped game and achieve a better position because of the temporary space advantage from the pawn on d5. this is almost the set position...the goal for white is to castle kingside, play be3 and double the rooks on the e file.. comments?
dominick1952 11-Nov-20, 14:38	brigade Beautiful Game!! Very impressive chess as an art form. Not perfect but perfection is only a concept.
brigadecommander 11-Nov-20, 14:40	i like that... I am presently studying this opening., Very solid. Which as a very cautious player is important to me..
dominick1952 11-Nov-20, 14:51	My 1st decade of tournament chess was pretty much gambit play... smith morra, benko, evans, and even the king's gambit.. From my 20's to 30's it was no guts no glory but I did learn the importance of being up tempo and down material...it helped me develop a killer instinct. As we age we take less chances and tend to play safer, sound positions. My first 20 years of over the board play with black against 1.e4 had me always playing 1.nf6. I preferred hypermodern theory to classical and in many cases I still do.
brigadecommander 11-Nov-20, 15:40	My Dad wanted me desperately to become an attacking player. He had me study the games of Tal,Morphy,Bronstein,and others. But i liked Nimzowitsch, Capablanca,Peterosian,Tarrash and to lesser degree, Alekhine.(he beat Capablanca Positionally) I was more inclined to positional chess. Tal was too wild for me. There is an enormous difference in OTB vs Correspondence. I am not a Natural player. I had to study very hard .It did not come easy. Having up to 5-days per move helps a lot!!! Gives me more time to calculate until i find a better move.
thumper 11-Nov-20, 15:46	Deleted by thumper on 11-Nov-20, 15:47.
thumper 11-Nov-20, 15:49	Dom I don't mean to digress but what exactly is 'tempo'? Stål has mentioned it to me a of couple times that it's important to maintain but I'm a bit unsure what that actually means in chess. Does it simply mean to keep your opponent reacting to what you're doing?
lord_shiva 11-Nov-20, 16:09	Tempo en.wikipedia.org)
dominick1952 11-Nov-20, 16:18	thumper..and example of tempo for material the smith morra gambit 1.e4.c5 2.d4.c5xd4 3.c3.d4xc3 4.nc3.. What exactly does white have for the gambit? White has a center pawn and a knight developed.. white has an open c file and a semi open d file. Having a lead in development means that you have a better chance of getting the first attack Doug. In all fairness, tempo is harder to explain than a material advantage.. You can see the extra pawn but tempo is an advantage in time...not something you can hold in your hand and see..
dominick1952 11-Nov-20, 16:27	the danish gambit another example of time for material.. 1.e4.e5 2.d4.e5xd4.3.c3.d4xc3.4.bc4.c3xb2.5.bxb2..this is an extreme example of time for material. Doug the bishops are aiming in the right direction. Black must be very careful and give back the pawns to achieve an equal position.. Understanding the concept of time for material gives you the ability to crush lower rated players.
dominick1952 11-Nov-20, 16:35	thumper go to my thread of over the board tournament games... My game with bobby dudly was a smith morra gambit... Look how well placed all my army was after 12 moves...all this for a pawn...?
stalhandske 11-Nov-20, 21:32	Dom <go to my thread of over the board tournament games...> Have I missed something? Where is this thread?
dominick1952 12-Nov-20, 02:54	stal... My over the board tournament games I posted 10 games
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