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wasatch 14-Aug-22, 18:40 |
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Duplicate post…sorry |
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After that: There's little doubt that there are cheaters in gameknot. |
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Here’s the original post: game game game game He tends to lose to non-tournament game in order to keep his rating low. Avoid this player. Report any suspicious activity to Gameknot. We need to drive cheaters out of this platform. |
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Catseye sanctioned… ————————— Hello, b41581, Thank you for flagging this to us and for your patience as our team investigated this user. We have had complaints in the past regarding this user and we had determined that they intentionally lose non-tournament games to keep their rating lower than what it should be. We had sent them a warning asking them to stop trying to manipulate their ranking. Since they have clearly chosen not to abide by our warning, we have gone ahead and restricted their account. They will only be able to complete their active games and will not participate in further games unless we get a written request that they will stop intentionally lose in non-tournament games to keep their rating low. Please let us know if you have further questions or if you need help with anything else. Best regards, GameKnot.com In response to your inquiry submitted on 15-Aug-22, 06:21 Subject: Privacy policy I have found that catseye is using a computer in his tournament games. In these four games, which I sent to the Gameknot computer you will see that he, a 1500 level player, makes over 80 moves perfectly (no mistakes) according to the analysis. This is impossible for that level of player. I have reported this information to Gameknot and they seem to not want to do anything. The games are: game game game game He tends to lose to non-tournament game in order to keep his rating low. ————————- So, if you are playing his team and get assigned this player, be aware that he cheats. R |
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Two Million ShirlmyGirl had a keen eye for that too. |
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stormtracker was a very obvious cheater (and later admitted). I could say much more, but I am surprised that Gameknot gave a warning to the player mentioned above. |
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I basically wrote a note to everyone catseye was playing in tournaments and he was, at that time, winning every game. Took a lot of time, but resulted in a “win” for me and awareness for others I guess. I will say, one more instance and I’m moving platforms as these same guys find Cheaters like GMs and toss them. They are contributing to the ongoing cheating discussion revolving around Magnus Carlson and Hans Neiman at the top chess levels. |
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barred from team games for rating manipulation. It is an effort. |
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mikemate 21-Dec-22, 19:10 |
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Really!! |
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I've blocked him. I may be precious but not putting up that rubbish. Am i over reacting? |
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A cheater no doubt Thanks P.Spy |
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Catseye catseye Every lost game is “Let’s play chess,” while 8 out of ten team games are wins. 8 out of 10 while high is too small to render any judgment, but consistently tossing private games? Oh, I’m playing a sub 1200 and I’m up 7–time to pitch it… game |
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Catseye II |
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Communication to someone who informed me of this player and the thread You know, just yesterday I played in a friendly local tournament. It didn’t count towards FIDE, Elo or even ChessSA ratings. We just got together at a popular pizza place and played for fun. I lost against three children, the eldest being 12 years old. So what!?! It is a game, I enjoyed it, we had free pizza, and afterwards I found out that the girl of 8 and a boy of 9 was being coached by my tutor and SA number two player (+50) - Hans Steyn. Why cheat? Pride to win a child? I beat a 1800+ FIDE player yesterday! Without cheating. That more than made up for the games I lost against the children. (All three of them are over 1800). The biggest compliment I got just before we went home was when Hans came up to me and said that my game have improved significantly since 2019, and that his pupils found it very difficult to overcome me. I was elated and I am still floating on cloud 9. I just don’t understand cheaters. Maybe it is because of my personal morals, code of conduct and inherent honesty. It is actually an injustice to one self more than the opponent, and I can see no satisfaction in it. Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate it. Riaan |
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My two-cents' worth The most difficult thing here is to understand the motivation. There is no money to be won here, no trophies, and no great fame. It is simply the result of pathetic immaturity, and it spoils the fun and intellectual challenge for others whose rating gets artificially inflated, making it harder for them to be paired with equals. It appears that eternal vigilance and persistent reporting to GK and fellow captains are the best remedies even if they are theoretically imperfect. My additional suggestion would be to ask his captain not to pair him, let him get frustrated and seek another team and then for the captain of the team he left to inform the captain of any team that he joins of his behavior. Hopefully, he will just get frustrated and not come back, but, as I opined above, he may just change his name like a chameleon. Here's a suggestion that is very labor-intensive but might advance the cause a little. Since not all captains read this forum, compose a message describing his behavior and send it to every captain. Simply cut-and-paste wasatch's narrative or GK's reply (or both) and send it around. What do you think? |
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On catseye… I’d tell the team captain, but I’m not involved in teams anymore. He appears to not be allowed to play tournaments anymore while ranked 20th or so on GK’s list of top 100…most of which were cheats. |
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Notification This same player was caught cheating by someone else a couple of years ago, higher up on this same thread. I caught it only because I review the games of my players. My teammate lost bot games to a this individual ranked two hundred points below him. Not impossible, but worth closer examination. I see a string of losses, and each is an evenly rated player but a private game. With an 8 out of 10 team game score I don’t even need to summon the games won. But the “I’m ahead 7 points, time to resign” game just irked me as blatant. I also notified Shirlmygirl, because she has a really keen eye for such shenanigans, but she opted not to review this one. I have also been in communication with a former team captain of this player. |
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Team Captains It would be interesting if those games could be cancelled without interfering with the scores. Forcing draws would deflate the ratings of the challenged players. |
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