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 Rating ManipulationSeveral players have said that to me.>> No doubt. Making gross blunders on private games is a mild form of rating manipulation. What we have identified with catseye is well beyond simple mistakes. Queen sacrifices half a dozen times in a row? That kind of blunder is willful. I have been using Mikemate's advice on the ratio of team score to team games, but I've only recently begun looking at the team rating. Maximizing private game point loss is another useful idea. I've not been using the filter, only running down the list of high point losses. If those were team games I figure it was legitimate, but if they are league or private games then I've been looking at the game. Does the player lead out with the queen and pitch her early on, like catseye? Do the games end before 30 moves? Does the player resign with big positional and material advantages? It's a lot of work. The number of moves are on the right so you can skip games that run long--these guys don't tend to waste a lot of time throwing games. They want to pummel the rating fast. The filter would certainly make searching and reviewing easier, as would using a desktop instead of a dinky little phone. |
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paradiesvogel buddhatomm catseye |
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use the 90 day rating as an "excuse" to decline challenges. We use current ratings to accept challenges. We are wrong! 90 day high rating penalizes fast players with many games (these are the most important players on our teams). Instead of using current rating as the most important stat when pairing, I would suggest using team game rating as the #1 stat when pairing. If that were the case rating manipulation would fade away, lol. |
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 game 31. dxe6 Be8? 32. Qd6+ Kf6 33. e7+ Kf7 34. Qe6# This one is a recent challenge but I couldn’t see anything obvious. game From earlier challenges: game 24. Rah1 Qh8? Is this reasonable? 25. Rxh8 Rc7 26. Qh4 To be fair, he does win the occasional private challenge: game But I feel my suspicion remains justified. |
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Blacklist You can do whatever you want, but there should be some organized guidelines upon which we reach consensus. I don’t want anyone treated unfairly, but especially the honest players who suffer blatant gaming. Mikemate is sure I’m mistaken about Buddha, and he has good points in his favor. |
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@stoned re para... Being honest I have looked at all his history and will decline any challenge I see him a part of. |
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Will wait until more data is gathered before getting mean. |
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since Sep 2011. He has completed 2,175 games with only 13 time outs (0.5%), and has completed (only) 179 team games (8% of all games). His team rating is currently very low at 1271 with a record of 44-48-8 in team games. If this player is a rating manipulator, he/she is very bad at that activity. |
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Just my thoughts. |
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sirteve he's played twice and is 0-2. He's 2-1 against marky131313 I don't think he's cheating either. As an opposing captain I would match him because he's at one of his peaks and seems to be dropping again. I would try to find one of my players that is rated higher than they should be to play him. If you look at his rivals, he has the following: +39 against his top 50 rivals with most games completed (8 or more) 53.4 Win % +75 against his top 100 rivals 54.2 Win % +109 against his top 150 rivals 54.8 Win % +113 against his top 210 rivals (min 4 games completed) 54.1 Win % Of that list, he has 1,378 completed games. That's 63% of his total games played. Against his 50 lowest rated opponents, he has a score of +68 out of 85 games. His lowest rated true loss comes against al-riyaty rated 1213 and against whom he holds a 13-2-2 overall advantage against. He does have some losses to sub 900 players, but they are timeouts in the first 3 moves (two times). He has a draw against roger64 which was in August of 22, which Roger could have been rated anywhere from 1175 to 1250 at that time. By my theory, manipulators sometimes like to play their charity opponents frequently, but not always. However, a manipulator would certainly not have a +68 record against their bottom 50 opponents. Compare his stats against mine and I'm +46 against my bottom 50 opponents out of 65 games. On average my bottom 50 are rated 1069 and his are rated 1180. He's won 80% of his games against bottom 50 and I've won 76%. Out of this statistic I omitted anybody who didn't have a rating, as it's too difficult to track what their rating should have been before they left the site. These would all be situated around the 1200 mark. If he's cheating he's really good at hiding it and really bad at capitalizing on it |
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This is a spreadsheet for the evaluator tool I created. If you download it you can use it. I have a number of different evaluations listed on the tabs below where you can paste different players as needed. Don't change the colorful areas, that's where the formulas are. If you mess up a formula, download the sheet again. |
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Buddhatomm I’m convinced— he’s innocent. My apologies for suggesting otherwise. I muffed this one, mostly because I’m still fumbling about what I’m doing. |
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would be a whole lot worse. These forums are good for exchanging ideas. Now I wish Gameknot had a semi-automatic team game pairing system. |
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especially the "let's play" games. The systems the problem. Does anyone agree that pairing by team game rating would be better? |
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Manipulator "Paradiesvogel~~~~~~~~~~was removed from our team 2 days ago." --- Fantastico!!!!!! Perfect!! Thanks Captain David From white-knight1: "Player paradiesvogel has joined sc wengern 5813 i have told the captain." --- Me too. Piero IHS TEAM ITALIA Captain |
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March Madness |
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