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 Mo One + Lord ShivaLord Shiva, They carried out a survey and about 69% of Ukrainians were sympathetic towards Israel, only 1% sympathised towards Palestine with about 30% unsure. At no point did I say Ukrainians should have to fight for their homes, their lives, their freedom. Equally I have the same view on Palestine, it's a subject I have been aware of for many years as my Dad did his military service there in 1948. Ultimately, I wish for peace everywhere but it's not likely in my lifetime. COB |
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Chrisobee Well 69% is certainly most. I think most Americans are sympathetic to Israel too, as I am. Maybe not 69%. Certainly not to the extent Donald is, posting insane videos of Trump Gaza genocide and ethnic cleansing. So on what basis ARE you anti Ukraine, and why? |
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Evil Russian Agitprop <<So you watched Trump and Zelensky, two reality TV stars, make a mockery of diplomacy in the oval office, and now you stand with Ukraine? I’m not quite sure what that means.>> Zelenskyy was a comedian, not a reality TV star. He did play the role of an actor who became president of Ukraine. But yes, I stand with Ukraine, and NOT with Donald Trump. <<Does it mean you stand with the banning of 11 opposition parties, jailing their leaders and refusing to hold elections?>> As for elections, the UK did not hold elections during WWII. Did this make Winston Churchill a dictator? While we held elections during that war, the mainland US never came under direct attack. The worst was the Japanese shelling of a few west coast ships, and the arson balloons they deployed, resulting in very few casualties. Very different from the constant barrage on hospitals, power stations, dams, apartment buildings, schools, theaters, and other civilian infrastructure. Yes, I stand with Ukraine against the evil perpetrated by the Russian despot. And I speak this having friends in both Russia and Ukraine, and having visited both countries. It is inexcusable, what is going on--and Ronald Reagan would have never put up with it. When Russia invaded Afghanistan he sent that nation sufficient aid for the Taliban fighters to repel the murdering Russian forces. Why has the US switched sides from common democratic decency to autocracy? <<Does it mean you stand with the banning of the Russian Orthodox church, founded in 988AD, in Kiev, and exiling its leaders?>> Zelenskyy DID ban the Russian Orthodox Church. My Latvian Russian instructor was a member of that sect, and we celebrated by having a big potluck style dinner (with Russian motif foods) at her home. This was probably not a good move on Zelenskyy's part, but on the other hand the evil war criminal Putler has targeted Ukrainian churches, bombing and burning them and raping and murdering Ukrainian clergy. That seems a bit more harsh than a simple ban. So yes, I stand with Ukraine against these atrocities. <<Does it mean you stand with prohibiting ethnic Russians living in Ukraine, one fifth of the population, from speaking and teaching their children their language and culture? Or reading and writing their books and newspapers?>> Is Russian prohibited in Ukraine? Hardly. I communicate with my Ukrainian friends in Russian even now. The language is not banned. Ukrainians had been required to learn to speak and write Russian back when Stalin engaged in the Holodomor, murdering millions of Ukrainians. This is the future that awaits them under the evil Putin, leader of the orc armies laying waste to the beautiful Ukrainian countryside and eradicating their culture and language. So yes, I stand with Ukraine against illegal, unjust, and unprovoked war. <<Does it mean you stand with the Azov Battalion, the unapologetically far-right, neo-Nazi militia that dominates the Ukrainian military and to who the US Congress blocked military aid in 2018 on the grounds of its white supremacist ideology? Is this who you stand with?>> I don't support everything Ukraine does. But the Azov Battalion did not invade Russia to rape and murder their civilians, indiscriminately shelling apartment complexes, and massacring groups of people as Putin's army did in Buchna. The Azov Battalion does not murder scores of POWs as Russian troops did near the start of the war. So on that score I stand with the heroes of Ukraine. www.thenation.com <<Does it mean you stand with the criminal oligarchs who brought Zelensky to power, and who have subsequently made $billions from the war?>> The "criminal" oligarchs making billions off this war are primarily US defense industry chief executive officers. Northrop Grumman. Boeing. General Dynamics. Raytheon. Lockheed Martin. I remember them only because Sherry's cousin used to work for them. These are just the ones off the top of my head. I wouldn't call them "oligarchs," per se. So I'm not sure who your source is referring to. But yes, these arms have allowed Ukraine to halt the murderous Putin in his tracks--decimating one of the largest armies in the world. Russia has lost far more in Ukraine than they ever did in Afghanistan. In that conflict they list 15,000 troops. So far in Ukraine a quarter million (250,000) are now fertilizing sunflowers. If Russia stops fighting, the war ends. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine ends. So yes, I stand with Ukraine, despite their loss of 40,000 troops. Far more than that will die now that US has chosen the side of wanton wickedness and evil. <<Does it mean you stand with continuing a war that has already cost over 1 million souls, could potentially escalate to WW3 and that has precisely zero chance of being won?>> At the outset of this war Putin predicted he would own Ukraine in three days. It has been three years, and at the rate of progress it will be another 85 years--and this rate is fast only because Trump has chosen to side with evil. The US historically fought AGAINST evil doers, like the Nazis, the slave holders, and a foreign tyrant king. Now we are casting our lot with the Great Satan, only because Donald Bone Spurs felt diminished against the true hero Volodomir Zelenskyy. Yes, I stand with the leader who did NOT steal classified documents he stored in an unsecured bathroom, or who was convicted of falsifying business records to conceal fornicating with a proxy daughter porn star. <<Or does it mean you stand with the innocents in Gaza whose slaughter has been live-streamed for the last 16 months in the same way?>> Gaza has what to do with Ukraine? Plus, have you seen the ethnic cleansing video put out by Groper? The one with the enormous golden statue of him gracing the plaza of Trump Gaza luxury hotel? The Palestinians protest voting for Donald now face off with hungry leopards. <<C’mon, be honest. Do you really stand with Ukraine or do you just hate Trump and/or Putin?>> With Comrade Krasnov there is much to hate, and with Putin far more still. So yes, I stand with decency and righteousness over the evil pervading the new US/Russia alliance. |
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Russia Jamming GPS Signals www.bbc.com In other news, the US now blocks intelligence sharing with our hated enemy Ukraine, in addition to arms shipments. We will instead give our intelligence to Russia, which has actively recruited the CIA and NSA staff recently fired by DOGE. |
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Chris 30,000 deaths for 1,400 deaths ain't no eye-for-an-eye --- not to mention Netanahu's approach to starving and forcing the 2 million women and children of Gaza to move from place to place so their homes can be reduced to rubble to "assure" the elimination of HAMAS. But then. I don't need to write a story about it, because you've seen the pictures and lots'a news about both the horrendous 1,400 who were killed and the results in GAZA. And questions still remain in my mind about the two-years ago HAMAS attack --- Among them is "how in the hell did the HAMAS fighters manage to knock down barriers and fly 200 ultralight airplanes across the alleged "most secure border in the world unless the guards and high tech electronic surveillance equipment intentionally got caught with their pants down"? Bottom line: I wouldn't put it past Netanauh to sacrifice 1,400 of his people for a "sweetheart war" against a society of pesky Muslems. |
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Hamas / Likud Someone here on GK explained that to me. Yes, young people celebrating in the desert—an ideal target to justify Nazi style reprisals. MO’s figure is old, currently it is closer to 50,000 Palestinian civilians murdered in holy retribution. www.aljazeera.com |
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