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However, the test I used is the same Chess.com uses, i.e. how many error-free moves a 1500 player can make over a set of games. If you can find 5 error free games of approx. 25 move games, the “testee” is using an aid, either a high rated player or a machine. For this, I used the GK computer and posted the results earlier in this thread. There is a write up somewhere on the internet…or a least there once was on this method. Btw, this is essentially the way Hans Neimann was found to be cheating in his early days at Chess.com…and he admitted to it. HN is an existential threat to the entire professional chess world. Also, Btw, I was a military operations research analyst for 30+ years building decision models for General Staffs using statistical data sets. I also have a Mathematics degree from an American University. |
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In the past I assigned one of four values to games: 1/2, 1, 2 and 0. The higher the value the higher the probability of cheating, based on the result of the algorithm machine. This is really a far cry from what you did. I wish I could do what you did. I really am jealous of your skills. |
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wasatch - GK program to find error-free games |
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Keep at It I received a message about the player’s team rating being higher than their ELO was another good clue, but in the history of games where this was the case I failed to detect obvious patterns. I don’t look at players with negative team scores. If they are pitching team games to improve tournament ratings, that is a problem for their captain to address. So the ratio of team score to games played is a tell. For catseye it was 80%, but I did not see this as an issue with only ten team games. It was the low ELO that excited my suspicion, and just the win/loss record alone seemed significant. But when I examined the lost games, as many of you did, the manipulation became indisputable. A queen toss followed by resignation a few moves later. Or in one case, a resignation while up seven points and decent positional advantage. This was in-your-face cheating to game lower rated opponent matches. Please don’t direct Catseye’s attention to this thread, I do not wish to have it serve as a training ground for cheaters. |
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The next highest algorithm was Stockfish II, with a probability of 90,1%. This is also significantly high. Remember that this is just an indication of the probability that an algorithm has been used. This is not a sure indication. To actually identify the algorithm with 100% certainty is a matter for the mathematicians, who can do the complex calculations. I cannot do that. |
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Sorry for the delay, I missed your message…I’m currently on vacation. Go to the results page for a list of games the player has completed. In the win, lose or draw column you will see links (underlines)… open one of those. Then at the bottom of the game page you will see a computer results tab. This exists so that you can analyze the results of your or anybody’s games. In my category I’m allowed 20 analyzed in a 30 day period. You can request analysis of any game on GK. |
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Thanks, R |
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Catseye has been allowed to play again… GK is really a pain. (Sigh) |
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Planet Chess |
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Rating Manipulation Piero IHS TEAM ITALIA Captain. Ciao |
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He really is a menace for team play. You team captains really need to get the word out if you can so thank you @Piero for your vigilance. He seems to be staying away from my mini-tournaments as he seems to not like dealing with me, but he will be messing up a number of other such tournaments in all likelihood. |
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Please compare the similarities of basic human rights granted to 2 underdogs. 2. GK granted Catseye, the rights to continue playing in GK chess games. In spite of protesters who want them not to do so. |
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Ace is Right |
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king_0_nothing 06-Mar-24, 20:47 |
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Reporting to GameKnot |
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You may not like cat's eye, but cats' songs appear to be joyful and entertaining. Watch the video and enjoy the music. |
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Ace-of-aces: And those videos are NOT his… |
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ace-of-aces re: Please compare the similarities of basic human rights granted to 2 underdogs. Please do not compare catseye to Donald Trump. Catseye cheated and was discovered to have done so beyond a reasonable doubt. The left attempted to stop Donald Trump from pursuing an election campaign by having states employ an arcane federal law which the states had no authority to do. That is what SCOTUS ruled. GK has limited power to prevent cheaters. Word of mouth is the most effective tool against them as has been done on this forum. I note that other names have been brought up and discussed here, and defenses have been raised and considered. However, no defense for catseye's observed behavior has been offered. It is good that someone like that can be boycotted, as it spoils the enjoyment for those of us who prefer honest intellectual combat. |
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UPDATE ON CATSEYE I want to update you on catseye. Basically, I want/need to create problems for him during his stay on gknot. Since gknot doesn't intervene (they didn't answer my three massages) so I do it myself. Catseye is playing 50 private matches, he hasn't signed up for any team since. I want to write to the organizers of the mini tournaments where he is playing informing them that he is a cheater. If there is still someone who does not believe that he is a cheater, who lowers his rating on purpose by losing games voluntarily, I suggest that he go and see his last matches against opponents of 1200 and 1000 rating points: plant1deep, 994 and marcoporko 1281. Thank you for your attention. Ciao Piero IHS TEAM ITALIA Captain. PS I will continue to be vigilant, I must force him to leave gknot. |
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Interesting game White plays: 19. Nd6 Be7 20. Nxe6+ dxe6 21. Nxc8 Kxc8 22. Qxe6+ Nxe6 This passes up the somewhat obvious (and fun): 19. Nd6 Be7 20. Qe8+ Rxe8 21. Ngf7# It would add fuel to the fire to know who challenged whom. |
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game This was wasn’t obvious to me. It looks like he was struggling to survive. But it did end fast. |
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Btw, this is an opening I play on occasion, so somewhat familiar with it’s themes. |
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Earlier Example The fairly obvious move here is Qa5+ and black picks up the white knight. Cat instead plays the obvious blunder Qe7+ to trade queen for knight and resign to the lower rated player. Here is the plant1deep fen from above. It should be a puzzle. |
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