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mikemate
03-May-24, 12:33

Pairings by team game rating PLEASE PLEASE the future is now.
mikemate
03-May-24, 12:40

Okay, to clarify, my real post is dangling on the previous page. It has some interest.
lord_shiva
03-May-24, 14:19

Let’s Play


White resigns against a 1200 rated player, move 18, after Kf3. Whee. Blatant, in your face manipulation.
lord_shiva
03-May-24, 14:26

Today


28. Rb7+ Kd8
29. Nd6 e3
30. Nf7+

White just moved the knight. We are supposed to believe 1500+ black didn’t see the knight fork? Well, this wasn’t a team game, so obviously that e pawn was more important.



lord_shiva
03-May-24, 14:51

Blatant Manipulation
Earlier in the same, game move 22.



White should have played f3, but played Nc3? instead. Black’s pretty obvious response is Nxc3.

Black instead protects the knight with a pawn, doubling pawns?

24 a5. Black should play Ka7, but instead does Bb4? White pins the bishop, the obvious response is to protect it with the pawn, c5. Black elects to sacrifice the bishop with a blundering king move instead.

Yeah, I don’t buy any of this.
lord_shiva
03-May-24, 15:15

More
Yesterday he beat Praveenankola (1604), but lost to Skeeterhorn (1362).

game

Here is the board move 11:


Black plays d5. Playing b5 would have been funnier and faster. Pretty sure Nf5 was actually the correct response. So with 12 Nd6+ white trades queen for knight? Not Kd7? Sure, black will lose a rook, but that’s a lot cheaper than the queen.

Old habits just die hard, I guess.
lord_shiva
03-May-24, 15:24

More
May 1st paradiesvogel wins three team games in a row, but just the day before loses let’s play with this:



White plays Kg3, so black pitches the rook with Rd6?

How does anyone make an error like that shy of falling on purpose?
mikemate
03-May-24, 15:27

I'm sure you can find many. Did you use the filter?
lord_shiva
03-May-24, 16:36

No
I just went down the list of games played. If it is a team game he wins, if it’s “let’s play” he loses, usually with a careless blunder. I didn’t even go back a week.
mikemate
03-May-24, 16:48

Well, I challenged him to find some players with team game rating roughly equal to current rating.
He said "I will tell you such players, ..." in the morning. It was late for him being from Germany.
mikemate
03-May-24, 16:50

His former Captain said he would "release" him if I talked to him. So I did.
lord_shiva
03-May-24, 17:00

Caissa’s Raiders
He’s been booted from that team.

Someone will need to keep an eye on him.
mikemate
03-May-24, 17:06

That reminds me, the third marker to determine rating manipulation was: 10-20 % team game
winning % higher than all game winning percent. -- very hard. I'm pretty sure that is it. It was
discussed maybe earlier in this thread.
lord_shiva
03-May-24, 17:10

Finding Team Game Percent
You just divide team score by team games?

Seems like a fair measure.
mikemate
03-May-24, 20:08

It is the winning percentages. My numbers are 54% all games, 46% and yours are 53% and 48%.
paradiesvogel are way out of wack, 49% all games and a whopping 73% for team games.
This is visible for all players.
mikemate
05-May-24, 12:36

Case closed: paradiesvogel

My mate that was accidently paired against him said this in part "...I actually respect someone
who will admit their wrong doing when confronted with the evidence."

From paradiesvogel
Hello, mikemate,

Caspita, carramba! You are a true master detective! I take my hat off to you!

In any case, I will not play any more team games and the team captains can sleep in peace.

piero51
06-May-24, 10:52

A CLARIFICATION ON PARADIESVOGEL
Hi Captains. I intervene only to point out that paradiesvogel is not Italian but German or Austrian . He has never played for our Team IHS TEAM ITALIA, nor will he ever play there. In his profile you can read "bozen" which is the translation of Bolzano, the capital of the Autonomous Province of Bolzano. Because he doesn't call his city by its real Italian name, Bolzano, which is in Italy and not in Austria or anywhere else. He calls it bozen because in Italy the autonomous provinces enjoy bilingualism. In Trentino Alto Adige, a Region in Northern Italy, both Italian and German are spoken. But it is always found in Italy. But someone who says he is from Bozen and not from Bolzano and therefore does not feel Italian in Italy, will never be welcome in my Team of Italians. Especially if he's also a cheater!
Sorry for the trouble but I wanted to make this clarification.
Piero Captain
mikemate
06-May-24, 10:56

I think he said he is German. After my conversations with him, I can say he is a gentleman that
just got a little carried away.
lord_shiva
06-May-24, 11:21

Still Cheating
While he may have some qualities of a gentleman, a true gentleman does not cheat, which paradiesvogel continues doing.
mikemate
06-May-24, 11:27

He did just win a ladder game against mrt167 (1730). I suspect he will rise to 1700
very quickly. By gentleman, I mean he could have just denied everything and shut me out
but he did not do that.
wasatch
07-May-24, 03:13

Unfortunately, I have found that the temptation of cheating never seems to go away. Those that give into it, almost always continue.

mikemate
10-May-24, 11:59

Right there in his profile: 1st place, Advanced, 196th GK tournament, Feb-2022

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mikemate
10-May-24, 12:01

And looking closer every opponent currently has 0 (zero) active games.
lord_shiva
10-May-24, 13:39

Group 90
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saguaro
17-May-24, 21:08

Another Rating Manipulator?
I just removed avatar007 from my team. He only joined recently, but won his first 6 team games. This prompted me to check his past history. It appears that every loss or draw is from a position that is not losing. Could someone take a look & confirm my impression? Thanks!
lord_shiva
17-May-24, 23:54

Avatar007
Definitely manipulation, but he won a variety of games, not just team games. Pitched only fast ladder games so far as I could see.
mikemate
18-May-24, 08:35

Well, I will say this. Gameknot would not have done anything about this player because he only
completed those six team games. They (formally) would wait until 77 team games are completed.
Is it possible that he is just ignorant of the affect of losing like he did in the fast ladder games?

When I started Kings of the Castle my star recruit had a habit of resigning fast games that did not
finish that day. He wanted fast games in one day. Of course, he changed that when he joined our team.
saguaro
25-May-24, 20:02

avatar007 is still at it ...
... and he's not on a team so there's nothing we can do about it game
piero51
28-Jun-24, 13:11

BEWARE! CATSEYE IS BACK. NEW NICKNAME: ID=IMAPIRATE
Hi Captains,
I've been warned from saguaro and dynamic-dv that catseye is back. He has changed his NICKname and is enrolled with Barmy Army. His new nick name is: imapirate. Unfortunately I stayed away from gknot and couldn't follow the cheater. And I find it against one of my players. I tried to write to him but he blocked me. Someone could write to him for me telling him to quit the games and also gknot because he is a cheater and that we found out. He can change his name as many times as he wants, but I won't leave him alone. No Captain will have to accept it.
Please write and let's bother him, hoping that GameKnot will delete his account sooner or later.
Thanks
Piero
dynamic-dv
28-Jun-24, 23:44

iamapirate
I feel his captain isn't interested in what he is doing and possibly encourages it by giving him as many games as he can get away with.
What it needs for captains that are in agreement to put his captain on ignore together with any co-captains, this will result in them not being able to set up games with said teams.

Just my thoughts!
Dave..
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