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coram_deo
31-Oct-21, 20:32

<<Well when you arrogantly call evolution a “garbage theory”>>

It is a garbage theory.

<<given the overwhelming scientific evidence for it,>>

What “overwhelming scientific evidence?” A couple of questionable transitional fossils when Darwin said the number should be “truly enormous.” You’ve got nothing.

<<what would you expect?>>

With evolutionists, I expect nothing but blind adherence to their false pantheistic religion.

<<There is a long history with the former Andrew>>

Yep, I criticize the theory of evolution for the garbage theory it is, the evolutionists go on the attack, I counter their false claims about evolution and what I believe, and they muddy the waters by introducing creationism into the mix. And they lie, insult and attack all the while because their behavior is based on a herd mentality. That’s the “long history.”

<<and we all know it’s a waste of time to say anything to that self appointed know it all.>>

So why post about me? I asked you once years ago if you were paid to post on here, and, to your credit, rather than lie and claim you weren’t, you didn’t answer. You did say at one point you were (paraphrased and in one of your rare moments of honesty on here) playing a role on here.

No one who posts the same mantra day after day for a decade - we’re too divided, we’re too divided, conflict is coming - with your stupid Google links isn’t being paid to do it. So my question is, are you being paid by CPUSA or a foreign government? Stop pretending and acting as though what you post isn’t bought and paid for by an entity hostile to the United States. You’re, quite frankly, no one to be taken seriously and I can’t believe the people in Neutral Ground waste their time responding to your anti-American propaganda. You and your endless Google links are a joke and have been for over a decade.

<<If his kind ever gained power it would be like the Taliban.>>

Total psychological projection.

<<Evolution does not require disbelief in God. There is more evidence for it every day.>>

The “evidence” is virtually non-existent and Darwin’s silly nonsense becomes more discredited every day due to advancements in real science on the molecular and genetic levels. Wake up, comrade.
coram_deo
01-Nov-21, 02:23

Seems like one of the regular herd members at FIAT LUX III has taken over duties of protecting and defending the herd since the herd leader has been absent and herd moderators have been so ineffective.

So the regular herd member brings up posts from years ago absent all the taunting and abuse that preceded them. Typical and exactly what I said on July 13 is a favorite tactic of atheists:

“A favorite tactic of atheists on the Internet is to repeatedly and relentlessly attack a Christian until they get an angry response - and then put that response in isolation and use it against them, having stripped away the weeks and sometimes months of personal attacks that preceded it.

It’s like the guy who walks up to a peaceful dog and pokes it in the face with a stick for nearly an hour until the dog finally growls and snaps at the stick. Then the guy says to the dog’s owner, ‘My, what a vicious dog you have!’ “

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You know why atheists and evolutionists (I repeat myself) always fail at ignoring me? Because any time I post criticism of the theory of evolution, they feel compelled to go on the attack. And usually not with substance or with any interest in having a discussion. It’s just attack, attack, attack. What other “scientific” theory do they have this type of an emotional (and emotionally unstable) response to?

They deny it, but I’ll say it again ‘cause it’s so true: The theory of evolution is *much* more than a “scientific” theory to them. It’s an indispensable part of their worldview and, for some of them, it’s their pantheistic religion. It’s what enables them to have no accountability and no responsibility in how they treat non herd members.

As for my past reference to stalhandske, that came after another club member posted an article about the widespread racism problem in Finland (whether it’s still a problem or ever was, I have no idea; I wasn’t interested in the topic.)

But again, it’s very easy to present something like that absent all the personal attacks and abuse that preceded it and wag one’s finger.

You guys are full of hate. If you’re not hating on me, you’re hating on former President Trump. If you’re not hating on Trump, you’re hating on anti-vaxxers. If you’re not hating on anti-vaxxers, you’re hating on “climate deniers.” If you’re not hating on “climate deniers,” you’re hating on conservatives, and on and on. You guys just spew hate 24/7. Occasionally you’ll mix in some doom-and-gloom, sky-is-falling nonsense, but mostly it’s non-stop hate.

And when someone has the audacity to push back on all your hate, you play the victim and claim the person sick of your constant hate is the one who’s hateful. It’s a neat trick.

But you guys are supposed to be ignoring me so why don’t you do that? You’ll last until my next post on the theory of evolution. Then you’ll go on the attack because you can’t help yourselves.

When I criticize the theory of evolution, in your view, I’m criticizing you - your identity and who you are. That’s how deeply wedded you (and many others) are to the theory and why you (and many others) are so dogmatic about it and react so emotionally and hatefully to criticism of it.

Well too bad. I’ll continue criticizing the theory of evolution and I’ll continue calling it garbage because it is garbage. If you can’t handle it, don’t read the posts.

And take a break from all your hate posting.

Have a nice day and try to enjoy the blessings God has given you.
coram_deo
01-Nov-21, 02:56

So, and hopefully this’ll be my last post (at least for a while) about the FIAT LUX III herd, but in the thread devoted to herd business, one of the moderators claimed I misinterpreted one of his posts. My question is, why’d you delete it, then? It’s nowhere to be found, and it’s clear from posts that follow that it was deleted.

Also in herd business, the herd leader at FIAT LUX III is again claiming I’m mentally ill (yawn) despite his herd members spewing hate 24/7 at people who disagree with them. There are literally a total of *six* attack threads against me and a club run by a conservative on here, and the “usual suspects” (nearly all of whom are moderators at FIAT LUX III) regularly use those threads to attack other premium members on GameKnot in gross violation of this website’s Rules of Conduct.

stalhandske - have you heard the expression, “The fish rots from the head down?”

I believe Michael Dukakis used that expression in a debate with former President George H.W. Bush in 1988, and Dukakis said it’s an old Greek saying. Why don’t you think about the saying, “The fish rots from the head down” when you consider how hateful and lacking in substance and integrity your club has become.
coram_deo
03-Nov-21, 05:52

Stal: <<<There is nearly always in these cases a very strong belief in 'knowing how this works', arrogance and egoism, an immense self-confidence and true belief in one's own hypothesis/theory. Combined with a complete lack of self-criticism.>>>

bobspringett: <<Somehow this sounds like someone I know...>>

Sure, Bob. It’s called knowing what you believe.

Do folks at the church you volunteer at know you don’t know who or what God is or what you believe? Why do you volunteer at a church and give lectures on the Holy Bible when you don’t know who or what God is or what you believe? Why do you describe yourself as a “rusted-on Christian” when you don’t know who or what God is or what you believe?

I know what I believe, Bob. If you think that’s worthy of mocking and cheap insults, that says more about you than it does about me.

You don’t have to be so confused about what you believe, Bob. (And yet, strangely, so certain that your bizarre and wacky interpretation of Genesis 1 is correct.)

Just read the New Testament, Bob. Ask the Lord to open your mind and your heart to His Truth. Ask Him that every day, The Lord wants to hear from you, Bob; stop trying to impress the atheists with your silly pot shots at believers and seek the Lord instead. You don’t have to not know what you believe. You’re choosing to not know what you believe.

God reveals Himself throughout the Scriptures, Bob; most notably and explicitly in Jesus Christ who was God in the flesh. I’m really surprised you don’t know this.

Or *do* you know this, and your answer to the atheists that you don’t know who or what God is or what you believe was meant to appease them?

Stop fretting and worrying so much about what other people think of you, Bob. Start caring about what God thinks of you. He’s the one who matters.

“Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.”

(Acts 5:29)

coram_deo
18-Nov-21, 04:41

Deleted by coram_deo on 18-Nov-21, 07:03.
coram_deo
18-Nov-21, 04:51

<<Coram
Is simply manifesting Jesus’’ love in his own unique way. It’s what happens when you accept religion - you fill with compassion and love for all God’s creations!

Can’t you feel the love?>>

“But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!

Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?

And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.

Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?

Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.

And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.

And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.

Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.

Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.

Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,

And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.

Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.

Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.

For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”

(Matthew 23:13-39)

coram_deo
18-Nov-21, 05:56

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coram_deo
20-Nov-21, 10:50

Looks like the lies, harassment and hate from FIAT LUX III are starting up again, but I actually blame myself. I made the mistake a few hours ago of saying the theory of evolution was their religion.

Oh well. Let’s deal with the latest hate from FIAT LUX III’s Dear Leader:

<<Well, each time he is mentioned here he must be delighted as it feeds yet another tsunami of hate posting.>>

Tsunami of hate posting? I think you have me confused with your club, stalhandske. You started a thread (We love the Holy Bible) with the sole purpose of attacking me and this club on July 5 - less than 24 hours after I re-joined GameKnot - and you and your moderators filled that thread with hate posts (300!) less than a month later. That’s an average of 10 hate posts a day from your club (30x10=300.)

You then started a successor thread with the sole purpose of attacking me and this club (which you unimaginatively called We love the Holy Bible II) and that successor thread currently has 249 posts.

That’s 549 posts in threads specifically and solely created to attack me and this club.

But you guys couldn’t stop there.

You then started a thread ostensibly on the theory of evolution (Evolution theory) but that thread quickly became another thread to attack me and this club because your members struggled to fill it, at least initially, with substance.

Then when that thread filled, one of your moderators started a successor thread (Evolution theory cont.) in which your club continued lying about me, harassing me and, well, generally behaving like the morally relativistic atheists you guys are.

“What?! Someone doesn’t believe the theory of evolution? We must destroy him! He’s a heretic to our religion and the earth goddess. The earth goddess must be defended at all costs! Let me eat dirt and imbue myself with the soul of the earth goddess!”

You claimed you only started attacking me because I intentionally misspelled the name of your club. But we know the real reason is because I called Darwin’s theory “garbage” and started criticizing it and posting articles and videos that demonstrated its many, many flaws.

<<He makes fun of us not being able to ignore him.>>

You can ignore me as long as I don’t post criticism of the theory of evolution. Then it’s impossible for you to ignore me. Your instinct to protect the earth goddess and your pantheistic religion’s prophet (Charles Darwin) is too strong.

<<He has stated himself he'd rather ignore us, but he cannot either.>>

I can ignore you just fine. But I sometimes make the mistake of responding to attacks, and I admit I enjoy pointing out the hypocrisy and moral relativism of atheists, which was on full display in your club’s Rittenhouse thread.

<<Is that due to mutual love? Hardly.>>

Oh I don’t know, stalhandske. I think one of your moderators (actually two) gives off a stalker vibe - the kind of guy who texts a girl 300 times a day to ask where she is and what she’s doing. But, yeah, those two moderators aren’t exhibiting love so much as an obsession.

<<He calls us an echo chamber (and old concept from his previous incarnations),>>

Name one person in your club who doesn’t agree with the theory of evolution. Name one regular poster in your club who’s not an atheist. Name one person in your club who’s a conservative (or even a Republican!) Name one person in your club who supports former President Trump. You guys all agree on politics and religion, which are the two hot button topics in America and the world. And the one Christian in your club I’m aware of rarely posts about God or Christianity in your club.

<<but I just wonder if not a club were both questions and answers are given by the same individual is a more approprate example of such a chamber.>>

I view this club as more of a blog than a club and it’s not surprising a chess website filled with atheists (as far as regular posters in the forum) don’t love the Holy Bible. Because that’s the criteria I had for joining. And I had that criteria because I didn’t feel like debating the existence of God or inerrancy and infallibility of the Holy Bible in this club.

<<He calls us a club of atheists, and yet we have several Members who are sincere Christians.>>

I’m aware of one - apatzer - and he doesn’t post often. And when he does post, it’s frequently on politics in which he agrees with you and the other club members. Bob has said he doesn’t know who or what God is or what he believes so I don’t think he’s a Christian (and certainly not a sincere one.) How can one be a sincere Christian and not know who or what God is or what he believes?

<<Moreover, the atheists in this Club have a very high appreciation for people with a normal Christian faith.>>

By “normal,” you mean people who believe the theory of evolution. You’re an absolute fanatic on that subject. It’s one thing to be a fanatic about something that’s true (like Christianity’s central belief - the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.) It’s quite another thing to be a fanatic about something that’s false (like the theory of evolution.)

<<Most of us are very critical about fanatics.>>

Most of you *are* fanatics!

<<He calls us 'evolutionists', but forgets that the largest Christian Churches have accepted the evolution theory as a reasonable one.>>

My disbelief in the theory of evolution has nothing to do with the Holy Bible or Christianity. It has to do with the lack of evidence for it.

And you can cite the Catholic Church all you want, but the Catholic Church has many beliefs and practices that contradict the Bible.

<<Here he is in a minority of fanatics,>>

One of your club members (who should be a moderator) posted stats I think from 2019 that showed a majority of Protestants in America (I think 60%) don’t believe the theory of evolution, and a significant minority of Catholics in America (I seem to recall 30% to 40%) don’t believe it either.

<<as exemplified by the membership of his club.>>

Again, not surprising on a chess website filled with atheists (as far as regular posters) no one is interested in joining a club that loves the Bible.

<<I won't go back into the so-called discussion with him about evolution,>>

You mean the one you backed out of and the one where you refused to answer direct questions like how many transitional fossils exist and how Darwin’s theory accounts for orphan genes (among other questions.)

<<the simple reason being that he completely ignores all the responses,>>

Not at all - I started a thread to respond to responses. It’s called (from memory) “Responses to Advocates of Darwin’s Garbage Theory.” Check it out.

<<and just repeats his mantra.>>

Yes, this is your oft-repeated false claim about me. I really shouldn’t bother replying to you since you have such little regard for the truth. But then you’re a fanatic on the theory of evolution so having little regard for the truth is pretty much embedded in your nature.

<<Sad.>>

Indeed it is. But not in the way you think.
coram_deo
20-Nov-21, 11:41

<<Stalhandske
I am wondering what makes people like that.>>

You’re aware of people who enjoy being attacked, lied about and smeared? You’re aware of people who don’t, at some point, retaliate? We’re all human.

<<Is it an underlying need or feeling to fight for one's own (personal views,l ?>>

Maybe it’s to correct the lies and misrepresentations of me and what I believe that the atheists in that club posted again and again?

<<This is why they (and there are several ) post into the wind.>>

How so, Robert? You know for a fact that not a single person who’s a member of this website (paying or free) or who’s not a member but reads the forum anyway doesn’t enjoy reading posts about the Holy Bible? You know that for a fact?

<<If you only feel as tho you need to fight or stick it to someone.>>

Are you aware of all the hate posts from that club? Do you know why they started (and continued for 10 weeks?) Because I don’t believe the theory of evolution and posted criticisms of it, and the atheists were trying to bully me into silence. Didn’t work. In fact, I’ve got more posts on the theory of evolution coming up.

But tell me something, Robert. Do you believe humans were created in the image of God? How do you square that with the theory of evolution?

<<There is no need for dialogue because that doesn't serve their purpose.>>

There’s no need for dialogue because I and the evolutionists will never agree on the theory of evolution and never agree on the existence of God and the inerrancy, infallibility and immutability of the Holy Bible. That’s why there’s no need for dialogue. One thing I’ve learned about this forum - no one is interested in dialogue with someone who doesn’t share their views. Look at the membership of FIAT LUX III. Everyone in there (as far as regular posters) shares the same political views and are nearly all atheists. You may not be, but you post about politics *far* more often than religion.

<<I am always wary of people who changed their name multiple times and or have multiple created profiles.>>

I left this website in the past because I got sick of the harassment and hate from the atheists on here. Now it doesn’t bother me as much because I realize they’re lost and their opinions of me and what I believe are false and don’t matter. But yeah - their harassment, lies and hate bothered me enough in the past that I left.

<<At the end of the day these people are only interested in serving thier own needs. To get the appropriate feelings they crave.>>

And what are those needs and feelings? I enjoy posting about the Bible and enjoy pointing out all the flaws with the theory of evolution. Is that worth two attack threads on me and this club? And two other threads that turned into attack threads because no one was posting substance on the theory of evolution in them?

<<However the empty hole of emptiness that sits at the very center of their being.>>

So you know the “very center of my being?” Give me a break, Robert. If you did know the “very center of my being” you’d know it’s a love for God and love and appreciation for Jesus Christ and all He has done for me. That’s the center of my being. What’s the center of yours?

<<Will never be filled by such pursuits. Mocking and slander may feel good to then temporarily. The hole just gets bigger.>>

It’s called retaliation for literally hundreds and hundreds of attack posts against me. And the mocking and slander don’t come from me - well, maybe rarely in the heat of the moment, but I delete those posts on the rare occasions they happen.

By contrast, the founder and moderators in FIAT LUX III have let stand (not deleted) the vast majority of lies and slander directed at me. Do you honestly not see that? How would you have responded had you received the volume of hate I’ve received? Would you even still be here?

And do you really believe the theory of evolution or are you just afraid of being ostracized if you say you don’t? Because I don’t see how you square belief in the theory of evolution with belief that humans were made in the image of God.

And are you aware that Jesus Christ and His disciples believed in a literal interpretation of Genesis 1 and 2? Were they wrong?

<<Perhaps we should ask these people what it is they need?>>

How about the ability to post criticisms and flaws with the theory of evolution without being personally attacked, lied about and smeared? That’s be a good start.

<<What is s it that they are trying to accomplish and why;>>

I enjoy posting about the Holy Bible and occasionally about all the flaws with the theory of evolution. Why do I have to be “accomplishing” something? What are you guys accomplishing with your endless hate posts about former President Trump and his supporters, anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers, etc. What are you guys accomplishing?

The Holy Bible is the greatest book in existence and has the power not only to save people for eternity but to change their lives for the better on earth. If even only one person enjoys reading posts about the Bible, I’m happy to do it.

<<and can we help with that.>>

Your arrogance is breathtaking, Robert - not only in thinking you know me, but in thinking you and the atheists have anything of value for me. I know you guys. I’ve been before, remember? It’s the same cast of characters saying the same things over and over again.

<<If they do not wish to engage we should just ignore them completely.>>

I don’t wish to engage. Tell the atheists not to engage when I post criticisms of the theory of evolution. Because that’s the root of the consternation and conflict between us. I should be able to post criticisms of Darwin’s theory without receiving harassment and hate.

<<Let those poor unfortunate tormented people find someone else to feed off of >>

I’m neither poor (financially or spiritually) or unfortunate (I’ve been saved and am walking with the Lord, and you don’t get more fortunate than that.) To the extent I’m tormented (and I think tormented is far too strong a word - harassed is probably better,) it’s due to atheists on here who can’t stand to have their religion (theory of evolution) scrutinized and criticized.
coram_deo
20-Nov-21, 14:17

<<He calls us an echo chamber (and old concept from his previous incarnations),>>

I didn’t do nearly enough justice in saying why I call FIAT LUX III an “echo chamber” so, on the off chance stalhandske (the club founder) genuinely thinks it isn’t, let me elaborate.

Here’s what I initially said:

“Name one person in your club who doesn’t agree with the theory of evolution. Name one regular poster in your club who’s not an atheist. Name one person in your club who’s a conservative (or even a Republican!) Name one person in your club who supports former President Trump. You guys all agree on politics and religion, which are the two hot button topics in America and the world. And the one Christian in your club I’m aware of rarely posts about God or Christianity in your club.”

And here’s the elaboration:

In addition to the above, name one person in your club who doesn’t believe mankind is responsible to any significant degree for global warming.

Name one person in your club who is skeptical of the effectiveness and safety of the Coronavirus vaccines.

Name one person in your club who thinks the Rittenhouse verdict was just.

Name one person in your club who thinks Joe Biden is doing a poor job as president.

Name one person in your club who is pro-life (or anti-abortion, if you prefer.)

Name one person in your club who doesn’t think the Steele dossier (used as a pretext to conduct a years-long investigation of a sitting U.S. president) is legitimate.

What’s interesting about all of the above is that significant percentages of Americans are in disagreement on those major issues. But not in your club.

Oh, you’ve had a few members of your club that disagreed with the prevailing atheistic, left-wing dogma, but they were either expelled from your club or harassed out of it.

You guys don’t tolerate dissent or differences of opinion. And not just in your club but on this website.

Not only do members of your club have attack threads on me (for opposing the theory of evolution,) but the same people have attack threads on a club that posts conservative political opinions and beliefs.

You guys are completely closed-minded and intolerant.

I honestly don’t believe you can’t see that.

coram_deo
20-Nov-21, 15:53

<<The case seems pretty clear to me despite much of the noise and other irrelevancies to the key parts of the case. The young man defended himself only after being attacked. He didn't murder anyone. This wasn't even manslaughter. The decision by the jury was correct.>>

<<The verdict may be right.... we weren’t there and can only offer our opinions based on insufficient data.>>

Good grief.

I should get a job as a marionettist.
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