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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 12:19 |
 The 10-Week Campaign of HateThe 10-week campaign of hate was principally in three threads, two of which were named after this club. The third thread, called Evolution theory, quickly devolved into attacks on me because, well, that’s how most evolutionists defend the theory - they attack anyone who criticizes or questions it. How much hate do you think was spewed at me by the atheists at FIAT LUX III over their 10-week campaign? I’m guessing 150 posts; will be interesting to see what the number turns out to be. How many violations of GK policy took place during their Campaign of Hate? Gotta be 50+ Nevertheless, I didn’t file a single complaint against that club. But one of its members filed a complaint against me - around the same time the founder of FIAT LUX III promoted him to moderator. Why am I cataloguing all the hate from FIAT LUX III? I think it’s worth quantifying, and bear in mind, the club founder not only saw nothing wrong with it, he participated in it. I wish I could catalogue *all* the hate and GK violations that have come out of that club (not just what’s been directed at me,) but I don’t think GK has the bandwidth. And bear in mind, this campaign of hate was launched because I intentionally misspelled the name of that club and criticized the theory of evolution (which, in my learned opinion, is the atheists’ pagan religion.) I’ll probably post once a day in this thread. Subjecting myself to too much toxic hate isn’t good for the body, mind and soul. It’ll be interesting to see if members of that club try to shut this thread down when I’m simply posting their own words. They must be proud of (or at least Ok with) their hateful posts since very few were deleted. First up is this July 8 gem from archduke_piccolo that can be found in the “We love the Holy Bible” thread at FIAT LUX III: “A quick squizz... ... at the 'We Love the Holy Bible' Club, and it does strike me that this guy is a bit of a fanatic. Never mind, that's his problem. Leave him to his little padded cell; he can do no harm there.” |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 13:59 |
“Stal He a narcissistic petty ignorant little man with a chip on his shoulder tge suze of Saturn. Ignore him. That’s what I’ve determined to do.” If only that last sentence were true! Gotta post the GK rules on behavior after each of these posts to show how often the founder, moderators and members at FIAT LUX III shamelessly violate these rules: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 15:27 |
This is the first of several posts in which stalhandske claims I’m mentally ill: “We all have one or even a few screws loose. That's normal and makes many of us interesting and different from others. This is something completely different. A different category. I am sorry for not having realised that before I wrote those two first posts in this thread, so I deleted them. Unfortunately, I doubt there is a cure, and for purely humane reasons I hope that this expansive, active, happy phase will last.” And just in case someone didn’t decipher stalhandske’s intended insult, zorroloco says in the very next post: “Stal Bipolar is a terrible ailment” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 15:37 |
And that’s not the worst insult in this string of insults from zorroloco: “Jim Jones Aka Lucifer, aka Prof Fiat Flux, aka Andrew, aka bag o hot air, aka Coram Duh” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 15:47 |
The founder, who compared me to Satan before deleting those posts and apologizing, is back to comparing me to Satan in this post through what I’m sure he thought was clever wordplay of my screen name. From stalhandske: “The major claims made by coram_diabolo are claims that cannot be refuted by science. Science humbly accepts that and does not digress to unnecessary argumentation. Jonestown is an example of where such extremism can lead at worst. All it needs is a talented leader with an impressive rhetoric and appearance - and there we are. Fortunately, the attendance of his 'club' is sparse, so may be I am worrying too much?” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 16:00 |
From zorroloco: “Stal Fanatic, bigot, lunatic, arrogant and ignorant. All fit. I’ve determined not to read his club anymore.” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 16:16 |
From zorroloco: “Stal I apologize for trolling him in your club. He brings out the worst in me. His entire club is a huge troll” From stalhandske: “Zorro There is absolutely no need for you to apologise. What you have written is from your heart and honest opinions. I would not call that trolling even though it may have some cynical edges to it, and those have certainly been deserved. It is the running away with the tail between the legs that I despise.” From zorroloco: “Stal Thanks But I was, at times, definitely trolling him. When I say things to ruffle his overblown self-righteousness, it’s trolling. When I specifically point out the ridiculousness of his ‘angels on the head of a pin’ dogma, it’s trolling. He’s the master though. Every single thread and post has a purpose related to getting a rise out of someone. Us, in fact. If it weren’t for you and me, his club wouldn’t even exist. That’s some bad azz, professional level trolling. My hat’s off to him.” In zorroloco’s view, my criticism of the theory of evolution and my posting verses and passages from the Holy Bible are “related to getting a rise out of someone.” That’s obviously false. I don’t believe the theory of evolution and am posting reasons why. If doing that gets a rise out of atheists, I think that shows that the theory of evolution is much more than a “scientific” theory to them. And if posting verses and passages from the Holy Bible gets a rise out of atheists, that says quite a bit about the state of their soul. From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 16:41 |
“This is the third generation of Fiat Lux. The name still reflects the main idea: Let There Be Light. Here, it has no Biblical connotations even though it is obviously borrowed from Genesis. Instead, it means that we strive at fact, the truth, and high quality.” High quality 🤔 “Whilst Fiat Lux is committed to fact it does not exclude humour. Nor does the Club exclude harsh criticism and even strong wording, with obvious limits set very clearly by GameKnot Rules, but also by common sense decency.” …obvious limits set very clearly by GameKnot Rules, but also by common sense decency 🤔 |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 17:23 |
There’s such a smorgasbord of hate in that club that trying to quantify it is like using a Dixie cup to drain a lake. I feel like nine hate posts that violate GK rules haven’t even scratched the surface (to mix metaphors.) Here’s another hate post from a moderator at FIAT LUX III. From zorroloco: “Stal He isn’t worth the time to think about. He’s a sad, pathetic little man grasping at straws to stay afloat in a world FAR beyond his ability to comprehend or cope with. Hence his clutching at primitive mythology and dogma to give him purpose - a false and evil purpose, rife with ego and superstition. He’s truly a lost soul succumbed to evil, the way i understand evil.” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 17:53 |
From stalhandske: “Apatzer and Bobspringett With regard to the writings of these gentlemen above, I agree 100% with what Zorro wrote about them. This is genuine Christianity, expressed by two highly admirable 'believers'. Expression of faith that I truly admire and acknowledge. Comparing it to the single-membered recent club and its founder is like an interesting comparison between heaven and hell.” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” It’s worth noting that Bobspringett told me in a PM that he wasn’t sure if stalhandske was justified in comparing me to Satan, while Apatzer, to my knowledge, remained silent. That says volumes to me about the character of those two Christians and how seriously they take their faith. Well that does it for today! Eleven hate posts and eleven GK violations from FIAT LUX III and I feel like I’ve barely started. |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 18:44 |
Here, the founder of FIAT LUX III cleverly compares me to Satan without using the name of Satan and then falsely says I have no compassion for other human beings, despite the fact I sponsor a total of seven impoverished children in the Philippines, Indonesia and Africa through Compassion International and donate roughly a third of my income to charities that help the poor. Think the atheists at FIAT LUX III donate *any* of their money to charity? From stalhandske: “Zorro Tragicomedy mostly. I mean just compare him to two other Christians, Bob and Apatzer. The latter two show all the love for the next of kin and deep kindness that at least I was brought up to associate with the Christian faith. It is by that comparison I have likened the third to another force as he shows no compassion whatsoever for other humans except himself. And, of course, mockery and insult to several generations of serious scientists since and including Darwin.” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” Of course it’s worth noting that bobspringett and apatzer both believe in the theory of evolution. It’s disbelief in that theory which enrages atheists, which is why the founder of FIAT LUX III referenced the theory of evolution in the last sentence of his post and why bobspringett and apatzer are in good standing in that club. Let either say he doesn’t believe the theory of evolution and he see how fast the atheists’ hate gets launched at them. |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 19:06 |
From stalhandske: “You are a fanatic as evidenced by you representing a tiny fraction of a fanatic Christian sect. As I have concluded several times, almost all true Christians (Catholics, Lutherans, English Church) consider evolution theory as a feasible theory.” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” I’d wager the founder of FIAT LUX III has no idea what “sect” of Christianity I belong to. To him, I’m a fanatic because I don’t believe the theory of evolution. It really is amazing how enraged atheists get by people criticizing or questioning the theory of evolution. It seems the word “fanatic” should more properly be applied to them. |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 19:11 |
From zorroloco: “Anyway Let him scream into the void. His stupidity and morally bankrupt and perverted views will fade like a bad case of dysentery. Just wipe thoroughly and turn on the fan to remove the last vestiges of the stink.” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” In case you missed it, I’m screaming, stupid and hold morally bankrupt and perverted views that are akin to diarrhea. That’s a lot of hate - and a lot of GK violations - in one post. |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 19:24 |
From zorroloco: “Stal It’s amazing that he can recite sll the words of Jesus and somehow managed not to internalize ANY of his actual message! He is the antichrist, not in a religious sense, but in that he exemplifies the opposite of Jesus’ teachings. Sadly ironic” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” FWIW, the Biblical definition of antichrist (lower case a) is one who denies Jesus Christ is the Son of God. “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” (1 John 2:22) That makes zorroloco and most members at FIAT LUX III the “antichrist.” Not me. |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 19:53 |
From stalhandske: “Zorro <He’s truly a lost soul succumbed to evil, the way i understand evil. > Now you say it. This is what I said in my original two posts, which I retracted. I retracted them for the following reason: I have an MD, PhD degree, and even though it is almost entirely based on molecular science, I am still bound by the Hippocratic Oath I made on 23rd March 1971.” And in this post, the founder of FIAT LUX III posts something I wrote to him (in brackets) and then claims he never insulted me and to keep my “mental disease” to myself. From stalhandske: “<A distinguished scientist (or one who claims to be) has nothing better to do with his time than insult me and claim someone he’s never met (or even talked to) is mentally ill.> My distinction as a scientist is not for me to assess, but since you know precisely who I am why don't you find out? As far as I know i never insulted you. Except perhaps in those initial posts that I withdrew and apologised for. About mental disease, please just keep all that for yourself. I have given no opinion - I can only suspect, and I hope you will be fine.” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” Let me conclude the first day of posting in this thread by saying: • I didn’t intend to post this much in here on the first day of this thread and likely will just post once or twice a day in this thread from here on out. • The reason I’m doing this is to show how genuinely hateful the founder and some moderators and members at FIAT LUX III can be when the theory of evolution is criticized and how often and shamelessly they violate GK rules. • Their 10-week campaign of hate, which I did not retaliate to for quite a long time, started because I intentionally misspelled the name of their club and criticized the theory of evolution. And, in their view, that warrants the above posts (and many more I have yet to post.) And they think I’m mentally ill? Well I guess if I had the choice between being mentally ill and spiritually dead, I would take the former. The latter lasts for eternity. |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 20:52 |
Here, the founder of FiAT LUX IiI again compares me to Jim Jones, an atheist who orchestrated the mass murder-suicide of 909 people, a third of them children, in Guyana and says I’m an extremist, presumably because I don’t believe the theory of evolution. From stalhandske: “Among other clubs there is still this one-person project that has not attracted others who would love the Holy Bible sufficiently. Or then, they have not been accepted as members because they have not followed the rules of the Leader (like the leader of Jonestown). Remembering the terror from that, I am pleased that there seems to be no followers of this extreme.” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” I may file a complaint against one of these posts in the near future to see how GK handles it. In my opinion (could be wrong) atheists are allowed to get away with anything on this website, which is why they’re so brazen about violating the rules. |
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coram_deo 30-Sep-21, 21:09 |
From riaannieman: “If it transgresses the rules of GK, report it and insist on remedial action. But with grace and dignity, not like a child throwing a tantrum. The remedial action (not revenge! 😜*) will be sweeter because one has the moral high ground and has waited patiently, allowing for the antagonist to incriminate him-/herself. Nobody will be able to accuse one for being vindictive, spiteful or unfair. The facts should speak for themselves and judged by an impartial third party: GK. *[There is a Chinese proverb that says: If you seek revenge, dig two graves.] In fact, at times it would even be better to wait a bit before reporting an offending post, thread or club until they are so deep in it that there is no way that they can explain or excuse it away. That could mean several days/weeks of trolling before one act. If they manage to avoid penalties on one or two posts, we can proceed to others. Build a solid, watertight case that can only be judged in our favor. Once again, I know it is difficult to wait sometimes, but it is absolutely worth it in the end.” I guess you could say I’m building a “solid, watertight case” of repeated violations of GK rules by the FIAT LUX III founder and some of his club’s moderators and members. If GK looks at the posts in this thread impartially, I don’t think they can deny that FIAT LUX III has repeatedly violated its forum rules - and I’m only posting the violations against me. There are plenty of violations against the founder of another club on here as well. |
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coram_deo 01-Oct-21, 11:05 |
From zorroloco: “It’s clear what Andrew’s is. He wants to replace evolution with his childlike creation myth. But he’s far too cowardly to admit it, or to apply the same cynicism to his dogma as he does to science. Everything he posts is under false premise. That’s why it’s useless to debate him.” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” An observation about the hate and violations of GK rules by FiAT LUX III that I’ve posted so far: • It nearly exclusively comes from the founder and a moderator in that club. |
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coram_deo 01-Oct-21, 11:41 |
From zorroloco: “Andrew Doesn’t actually believe that idiocy he posts. No one tries THAT HARD, unless he doubts, is afraid of his doubts, and is trying to CONVINCE HIMSELF! So sad. I almost feel sorry for him. He knows (erroneously) that he goes to hell if he doubts. Yet he doubts. This cannot be all, hence the STRIDENT arguments that ostensibly ‘prove’ his faith.” and about two hours later: “That tells you all you need to know- he doesn’t care about people, society or God’s will. All he cares about is that his rigid fossilized version of Biblical dogma is foisted upon everyone else.” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” zorroloco seems to violate GK’s Rules of Conduct with impunity, and I’m just posting his violations against me. I’m not the only target of his hate - he routinely verbally abuses another club founder on here. But he never seems to violate GK rules in his own club; it’s always in someone else’s club. This is an interesting statement from GK about what happens to clubs that violate the website’s Rules of Conduct: “Q: What will happen if someone breaks the rules in a club? Club founder is the one responsible for everything that happens in the club (although the club founder can appoint moderators to help with maintaining the club). Any forum posts that violate GameKnot's Rules and Policies must be promptly deleted and an appropriate disciplinary action taken against the person who posted it (an official warning and/or removal from the club). If the offending post hasn't been deleted within 24 hours after the club founder and moderators were informed about it, the entire message thread with the offending post will be deleted, and the club forum will be closed for new posts. The temporary suspension of the club will last for 1 month the 1st time it happens, 2 months the 2nd time, 3 months the 3rd time, and so on. No further action will be taken if the offending post is deleted within 24 hours, unless there is an excessive number of violations (more than 3 per month), or if the club founder/moderators are intentionally waiting until the last possible moment, or if a club founder/moderator was involved in the violation.” Notice in particular the last paragraph: Has FIAT LUX III violated GK’s Rules of Conduct more than three times in a month? Has the founder or a moderator at FIAT LUX III been involved in a violation? At FIAT LUX III, the violations nearly exclusively come from the founder and a moderator. And here is a statement from GK on its Community Standards: “The following are the basic rules of conduct that govern player interaction and activity within GameKnot website and forums. Failure to act responsibly and comply with these rules may result in the suspension and/or termination of your account without any refund of any kind. The goal of these rules is to ensure a safe, friendly and enjoyable environment at GameKnot for everyone. They can be summed up as simply "Be good to others, and GameKnot by extension" Do zorroloco’s hate posts - and there are a ton of them - comply with GK’s goal of ensuring “a safe, friendly and enjoyable environment at GameKnot for everyone?” |
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coram_deo 02-Oct-21, 10:07 |
From stalhandske: “ “Raan's response (above) is a wonderful example of quoting reality. As opposed to the systematic negativity of Flux, whose mantra never seem to cease. As I have said, I no longer pay any attention to his 'club of extreme egotism' “ From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” Bear in mind the founder of FIAT LUX III not only allows all of these violations of GameKnot’s Rules of Conduct in his club but commits violations says quite a bit about his character. |
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coram_deo 02-Oct-21, 10:47 |
While misrepresentation of what another poster has said and believes may not by itself be a violation of GameKnot’s Rules of Conduct, the frequency and deliberateness with which this newly-installed moderator did it certainly constitutes harassment, which *is* a violation of GK rules. In this post, a moderator at FIAT LUX III lies about what I believe and says I’m the dupe of a puppet-master and have the mentality of a suicide bomber. From bobspringett: “Thus it is with 'anti-Darwinists'. They are not anti-Darwin at all, it is just a slogan that they don't understand themselves. In reality, they are the dupes of smarter puppet-masters who tell them that assessing evidence rationally is the thin end of a wedge that leads to hell. They are scared sh**less about 'betraying the faith', even if it means a form of the faith that most of their co-religionists consider idiotic. They brush this off, because those others 'aren't really Christians'; "Many are called, but few are chosen!" Just like suicide bombers, in more ways than one. They not only refuse to become mature in the faith they claim, they also demand that others regress to their own level. Under fear of hellfire!” “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” I have repeatedly said - ad infinitum and ad nauseam - that my disbelief in the theory of evolution has nothing to do with the Holy Bible or God, that it has to do with the paucity of evidence for macroevolution. But bobspringett and others at FIAT LUX III continually (and falsely) claim that I’m a Bible literalist (I’m not,) that I’m a fundamentalist (I’m not) and that I don’t believe the theory of evolution because of my faith (also false.) The fact that bobspringett (and others) continually repeated these false mantras about me constitutes harassment by any reasonable definition of the word and is therefore a violation of GK’s Rules of Conduct. |
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coram_deo 02-Oct-21, 11:02 |
From zorroloco: “Argument with his type is futile. His mind is made up and don’t confuse him with the facts! It’s like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, he’s just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and claim he won. And spot on about fear. He KNOWS that his petty, jealous, vindictive god sees into his petty, jealous, vindictive soul and he trembles. Hell, if I believed what he believes, I’d be scared too!” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” |
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coram_deo 02-Oct-21, 11:23 |
From bobspringett: “I don't care for Evolution as such, but for intellectual honesty. If a better theory than Evolution came along, I would be among the first to adopt it. I care even more when the Bible is twisted to give a false impression. For someone to claim 'I love the Holy Bible' and then use it as an excuse for (deliberate?) ignorance is close to a blasphemy.” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” It’s one thing to mistakenly state what someone has said and believes. But when it’s done knowingly and repeatedly - over and over - it’s simply harassment. |
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coram_deo 02-Oct-21, 12:15 |
From bobspringett: “Also applicable is Romans 2: 17 - 29. Paul's argument there against those who boast in their 'Love of the Law' is readily transferable to more modern-day types who boast in their 'Love of the Holy Bible'. Unless it affects their thinking and doing for the better, it is a hollow boast and needs correction. As Paul says, "For as it is written, “The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.”" From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” Worth noting is that this moderator at FiAT LUX III knows nothing about me - what I was like before I became a Christian and what I’m like now - and yet he asserts, from a position of complete ignorance, that my love for the Bible didn’t affect my thinking or doing for the better and that I’m a blasphemer of God. Like I said, someone who continually misrepresents and lies about what someone has said, done and believes isn’t doing that innocently. This is harassment, plain and simple. |
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coram_deo 02-Oct-21, 13:55 |
I suppose their exchange is not a violation of GK’s Rules of Conduct, but the mindset is quite revealing. From stalhandske: “Riaan What if someone else opens a club and not only presents false information, but also explicitly refers mockingly to this club? À la Fiat Flux.” From brigadecommander: “what if they... ''presents false information, but also explicitly refers mockingly to this club?''. Then they will suffer the same fate as the 'true freedom of speech club' did. Simple.” Got it? We can insult you, harass you, misrepresent your beliefs and lie about you - and do it dozens of times - but don’t you dare misspell the name of our club or post “false information” about the theory of evolution or *your club* will be closed. The hypocrisy is breathtaking and repulsive. |
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coram_deo 03-Oct-21, 11:10 |
This FIAT LUX III moderator also falsely claims I am posting objections “very selectively and out of context” when I actually posted entire articles or, if an article is excessively long, excerpts in full from top to bottom, with links. This moderator, who claims to be a “rusted-on Christian,” perhaps needs to get the rust off because his repeated bearing of false witness and harassment are hardly attributes of the faith he professes to have. From bobspringett: “I am annoyed because you are doing everything in your power to link the Christian faith with intellectual dishonesty. You are quoting very selectively and out-of-context, and then providing a false or incomplete context. This is transparently dishonest to anyone who understands the subject.” From the GK website: “Rules of Conduct: You may not harass, insult, badger, threaten, or intentionally annoy, irritate, or rush other players. You may not use any sexually explicit, vulgar, obscene, rude, harmful, disturbing, threatening, abusive, defamatory, hateful, inflammatory, racially or ethnically offensive language and/or images. Please keep everything PG-13. No exceptions for abbreviated or misspelled words with clear intended meaning.” The crude insults favored by zorroloco, and to a lesser extent by stalhandske, are more obvious violations of GameKnot’s Rules of Conduct. But when someone repeatedly lies about you and what you have said and believe, as bobspringett repeatedly did in FIAT LUX III’s 10-Week Campaign of Hate, that constitutes harassment by any reasonable definition of the word. The reason the atheists on here feel unencumbered in violating GK’s Rules of Conduct is *they know they can get away with it.* The atheists have started a total of four threads on here exclusively devoted to attacking other premium members and their clubs (my club and Neutral Ground) and named each of the attack threads after our clubs. Numerous violations of this website’s Rules of Conduct are in those threads. With former President Trump out of office, atheists on here apparently need to get their hate fix by attacking other premium members. Maybe they oughta get their hate fix somewhere else. |
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coram_deo 03-Oct-21, 15:14 |
In doing so, GameKnot has made clear its Rules of Conduct do not apply to atheists who post in its forum. All I had to do was say I was going to report obvious violations of GameKnot’s Rules of Conduct by FIAT LUX III’s founder (stalhandske) and moderators (zorroloco and bobspringett) and GameKnot removed the reporting function from me. |
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coram_deo 05-Oct-21, 19:45 |
From stalhandske: “Here is something I'd like to share with you A great talk about evolution by Dr. Nick Lane. I would especially like to have Andrew listen to it.” First, it’s interesting that stalhandske, who’s compared me to Satan; said I’m mentally ill; compared me to Jim Jones, an atheist who orchestrated the mass murder/suicide of 909 people, a third of whom were children, in Guyana; said I’m a bigot; said I’m a religious fanatic; is interested in what I have to say about a video he posted. But I watched his (hour-long) video (while drinking beer; it was the only way I could get through it,) and, getting down to brass tacks, the question I have is: When Dr. Nick Lane said there was only one known example of endosymbiosis, is this assertion based on observation, experiment or speculation? Because this is allegedly how (and why) complex life evolved only once in 4 billion years on earth. Dr. Lane, toward the end of this video, also questioned (though it may have been rhetorical) what science is and what constitutes a scientific understanding of the world. I would suggest that as long as “science” discounts the existence of a supernatural realm - a realm beyond the five senses (though science still allows a realm of extra dimensions and multiple universes) - science is limiting itself and is therefore missing the big picture. |
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coram_deo 19-Oct-21, 09:06 |
Weird and unfair.>> This is quite a remarkable post by a club founder given all of the GK violations he permits - and participates in! - in his club. But atheists get away with violating GameKnot’s Rules of Conduct with impunity. And they know it, which is why they do it. And after I started identifying (not reporting) all the violations in this thread, GameKnot took away my ability to report violations - despite the fact I had not reported a single one. As the individual here posted, “Weird and unfair.” |
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coram_deo 20-Oct-21, 17:32 |
The only conclusion I can come to is that GameKnot does not enforce its Rules of Conduct equally - that is, frequent posters who are atheists are allowed to violate the Rules of Conduct with impunity while believers who do far less (and in reality likely didn’t violate the Rules of Conduct at all) have their ability to post and send private messages removed. It’s very sad to discover that a website with good functionality and an aesthetically-pleasing design is run in such a blatantly unfair and repulsive manner. The folks who run this website should be ashamed of themselves. |
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