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redfoxrising
08-Jul-24, 06:58

Celebrate Diversity
Today we see the advertisement "celebrate diversity" and are supposed to be happy about it. But what does this mean to "celebrate diversity"? First of all, we live in the most diverse country on the planet in terms of ethnicity and lifestyle. One of our country's mottos "e pluribus unum" means "one out of many". I am a teacher and see great diversity in my students, and also in those I associate with. So what are we celebrating? The fact that we are not all of the same racial or religious background? There are some who take this notion a bit further. They want to use "diversity" and "equity" to mean other things.
In the post-modern world, words do not have a lot of meaning. They mean whatever a group wants them to mean. We may think that we already have diversity, and we do in the traditional sense of the word. But certain groups are using the words and assigning a different definition. Their definition has more to do with outcomes in jobs and careers. They want to see more "diversity" in jobs and professions. You might say, "fine. If the person deserves the job, then I wish them all the best." Not good enough, some say. Put them in the job in order to meet a "quota" of those of a certain ethnic group.
What did Jesus say about this kind of thing? He prayed in John chapter 17: "that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you". If we are all one, then race does not matter. Consider Galatians 3:27-28 "for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentlie, neither slave not free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." So our ethnic differences do not matter in that we are one in Christ. Yet we are not all the same. Consider Paul's letter to the Corinthians chapter 12 where he talks about the different functions in the Body of Christ.
We live with a dichotomy. We are one, and yet we are different, even unique. Do we all have equal ability and intelligence? No, we do not. I'm watching Wimbledon. I used to be active in racquet sports. Was I great? I was fairly good. Could I ever have competed at Wimbledon? No way, even if I tried as hard as I could.
It is not possible to "force" equity or diversity. It will lower standards, and be a disincentive. So let's celebrate our unity, even though our outcomes will be different.
zorroloco
08-Jul-24, 07:33

Red
To me, it’s a reminder that with diversity comes differing viewpoints. This means we should be aware of and receptive to the learning we can find in different cultures that may not have been obvious in our own.
apatzer
08-Jul-24, 08:06

Red
I absolutely agree with what you said Red and your heart felt words struck me as beautifully genuine. We have all matter of people who weaponize the word diversity. They skew it's meaning and they do so for profit. The next book, the next blog, the next radio show, the next YouTube video etc.

IMHO, we do need to be reminded about diversity and inclusion. The reason is we all have subconscious bias that is hardwired into our brain. It is an ancient survival trait. It is subconscious in all of us. So at the same time we also need to remind ourselves.
jonheck
08-Jul-24, 09:55

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bobspringett
08-Jul-24, 15:33

Red 6:58
I would have thought that Australia is even more diverse than America. More than half of Australians have at least one parent born overseas, and about 30% were born overseas.

Right now the Australian Labor Party is getting itself tangled in this question. Their traditions are very much built on 'working-class solidarity', and their rules require every member in Parliament to vote as Caucus decides (unless Caucus decides to allow a 'free vote', which is rare). Uniformity and unanimity is demanded.

This was probably not unreasonable when we consider the historical background of English-ancestry workers confronting Big Capitalism. But those days are gone. The ALP is actively seeking to broaden its base into diverse communities and be inclusive.

Then along comes a young female Muslim senator who supports a motion from the Greens to recognise Palestinian nationhood. This is actually part of Labor policy, but they don't want it advertised right now or they'll be painted as 'supporting terrorists'. (Yes, the Israel lobby is just as strong here as in the States). So she was suspended from the Party for voting Party policy, because Caucus decided it would be embarrassing. Continuing pressure has now led to her resignation from the party, and there are now large swathes of formerly ALP-supporting Muslims trying to organise a Muslim Party. They aim to leverage the ALP from outside now that the ALP has shown how it squashes any internal dissent.

Ah, the power that preferential voting and proportional representation can give to a minority! The Greens have played this game for the last 20 years, and the Australian Democrats did that to our Conservatives for twenty years before that. It forces the government to be more inclusive, even if it involves a certain degree of dragging, kicking and screaming.
redfoxrising
08-Jul-24, 19:50

Diversity
Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread I wanted more of you to chime in.
Bob: I had to do some fact checking and I wanted to make sure we had some research done as I figured I was wrong. I was not thinking worldly.
Pew Research
pewrsr.ch
I figured diversity in the USA would have been the highest.
I stand corrected and this all makes sense now that I think of it.
Looking at the world map the US and Australia don't come close to being top in the world.
Looking for a real multicultural experience? Head to Chad in north-central Africa where 8.6 million residents belong to more than 100 ethnic groups or to Togo, home to 37 tribal groups that speak one of 39 languages and share little in the way of a common culture or history.

But if you find a kaleidoscope of cultures distracting, then consider a visit to Argentina, Haiti or the isolated Comoros islands off the southeast coast of Africa. They rank among the least culturally diverse countries in the world.

This multicultural map of the world is based on an analysis of data reported in a new study of cultural diversity and economic development by researcher Erkan Gören of the University of Oldenberg in Germany.

In his paper, Goren measured the amount of cultural diversity in each of more than 180 countries. To arrive at his estimates, he combined data on ethnicity and race with a measure based on the similarity of languages spoken by major ethnic or racial groups. “The hypothesis is that groups speaking the same or highly related languages should also have similar cultural values,” said Goren in an email.

Together he used his language and ethnicity measures to compute a cultural diversity score for each country that ranged from 0 to 1, with larger scores indicating more diversity and smaller values representing less.

The usual suspects lead the list of culturally diverse countries: Chad, Cameroon, Nigeria, Togo and the Democratic Republic of the Congo. These and other African countries typically rank high on any diversity index because of their multitude of tribal groups and languages. The only western country to break into the top 20 most diverse is Canada. The United States ranks near the middle, slightly more diverse than Russia but slightly less diverse than Spain.

Argentina, the Comoros, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Rwanda and Uruguay rank as the world’s least diverse countries. Argentina may be a surprise, what with all those Germans and Italians pouring into the country after one world war or the other. But Spanish is nearly universally spoken in Argentina, 97% of the country is white and more than nine-in-ten Argentines are at least nominally Roman Catholic, according to the CIA’s World Factbook.

The presence of Rwanda at the bottom of the list likely is, in part, a grim reminder of the mass slaughter of Tutsi by the dominant Hutu majority in 1994 in what came to be known as the Rwandan Genocide.

A caution: Cultural diversity is a different concept than ethnic diversity. As a result, a map of the world reflecting ethnic diversity looks somewhat different than the one based on Goren’s cultural diversity measure that combines language and ethnicity profiles of a country.

The Harvard Institute of Economic Research developed a map similar to the on posted above based on Goren’s findings. (See it here).

A comparison of the Harvard and Goren maps show that the most diverse countries in the world are found in Africa. Both maps also suggest that the United States falls near the middle, while Canada and Mexico are more diverse than the US.

The largest disagreements between the two analyses occur in South America. The Harvard group places Brazil slightly above the upper-middle range of its diversity scale, in part because of its large mixed-race population. However, Goren ranks Brazil as one of the least diverse countries in the world, in large part because virtually all Brazilians speak Portuguese regardless of their race or ethnic background.

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lord_shiva
09-Jul-24, 19:47

Diversity Equity Inclusion
Often racial bias is not recognized. If your community is thirty percent black and your business is 25% to 40% black, you’re probably fine—depending on your number of employees. If you have a hundred employees in a community that is 10% LGTBQ, yet you have not a single representative of that community, odds are good you suffer unrecognized (or overt) bias.

“Let us bask in the splendors of all shades and genders.” Randy Rainbow
lord_shiva
09-Jul-24, 19:49

Doors Off
If you think the doors are falling if Boeing planes due to DEI, you might as well don a white hood.
lord_shiva
09-Jul-24, 19:49

Is This Why
Jon abandoned this club?
lord_shiva
09-Jul-24, 19:53

This Isn’t NG
Over there they hate with great passion. Over here in this group we all fly the proud pride flag.🏳️‍🌈
Fact, when I type “flag” my iPad offers that.

Russian agitprop sites sow division attacking pride month.
apatzer
09-Jul-24, 20:01

Lord Shiva
The people at NG don't hate, let alone with great passion. However all humans have the capacity for hate. We can only try to eliminate any hate from our own lives.
lord_shiva
09-Jul-24, 20:07

Some
I detect a fair amount of hate emanating from certain individuals there. Tell me how Noisy is not a passionate hater. Frank despises socialists with unchecked fervor. I bet Thumper wouldn’t hire a transgender to fix Boeing doors. Not if he could find a white anglo Saxon Protestant with a an engineering background, even if the transgender had a degree backed by a couple years of experience.
lord_shiva
09-Jul-24, 20:10

Vic
Paraphrasing: I like to gaze up at the stars and pretend I have a soul. I have an imaginary friend who clubs baby seals.

The original just made my skin crawl—I toned it way down for here. I’ve never written anything so hateful in my life. I couldn’t if I tried. I just lack the genetic predisposition for that.
lord_shiva
09-Jul-24, 20:23

A Message on Hate
www.youtube.com

This video explains a small taste of the hate suffered by our friends in Florida, where the governor has banned teaching about the horrors of slavery, but mandated teachers must mention the positive aspects of that most despised institution.

I wish I was just making this up.
lord_shiva
09-Jul-24, 20:34

Randy Rainbow on MTG
www.youtube.com

I’m looking for where I got that phrase…

This one is on Donald.

www.youtube.com

Still so timely.
lord_shiva
09-Jul-24, 20:41

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This one has nothing to do with diversity, so it really doesn’t belong here. But I had not seen it before and just want to post a reminder. I will remove it on request.

www.youtube.com
lord_shiva
09-Jul-24, 20:57

Bask in the Splendors
I just had to keep searching until I found that line. It is the ending of this video:

www.youtube.com

which was inspired by the DeSantis “Don’t Say Gay” bill that was the first shot in his subsequent war against Disney.

Disney supports diversity, and the DeSantis bill caused a hit to their industry as regular people now want to avoid that hateful state that thinks the pedophile Matt Gaetz is the best person besides DeSantis to represent them.
apatzer
09-Jul-24, 21:37

Lord Shiva
I think our definition of Hate may be a little different. Just like when they call us Trump haters. It dismisses the real issues with a label that requires a person to know the other person's heart and the facilitation of another's mind. On occasion anyone may write something that is considered hateful. However, to hate with great passion is altogether a different thing IMHO.

They are victims of financial predation and financial predators (although willingly) who make profit from video's, articles etc etc. IMHO this needs to be treated like Nelson Mandela did apartheid in Africa. If the system benefits them in some way and they become part of that system. They are victims of that system.



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