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zorroloco
29-Aug-24, 08:37

Walk Away
Actually…. Running away….

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zorroloco
29-Aug-24, 08:40

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zorroloco
29-Aug-24, 08:42

GOP Representatives endorsing Harris

Former Illinois Rep. Adam Kinzinger
Former Washington Rep. Rod Chandler
Former Missouri Rep. Tom Coleman
Former Maine Rep. Dave Emery
Former Maryland Rep. Wayne Gilchrest
Former Pennslyvania Rep. Jim Greenwood
Former New York Rep. John LeBoutillier
Former New York Rep. Susan Molinari
Former New York Rep. Jack Quinn
Former Virginia Rep. Denver Riggleman
Former Rhode Island Rep. Claudine Schneider
Former Connecticut Rep. Christopher Shays
Former Vermont Rep. Peter Smith
Former Texas Rep. Alan Steelman
Former Michigan Rep. David Trott
Former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh

GOP governors endorsing Harris

Former Illinois Gov. Jim Edgar
Former Massachusetts Gov. Bill Weld
Former New Jersey Gov. Christine Todd Whitman
Former Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan
Other notable GOP figures endorsing Harris

Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel
Former U.S. Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood
Former Mesa, Arizona, Mayor John Giles
Former GOP state chair and state Senator Chris Vance of Washington
Reed Howard of Young Republicans for Harris
Former Republican National Committee (RNC) delegate Rina Shah
Former Trump White House official Stephanie Grisham
Former Trump White House official Olivia Troye
A dozen Republican White House attorneys who worked with former Presidents Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush have endorsed Harris for president, including former federal appeals court Judge Michael Luttig.


“We endorse Kamala Harris and support her election as President because we believe that returning former President Trump to office would threaten American democracy and undermine the rule of law in our country,” the lawyers wrote in a letter first reported by Fox News.
zorroloco
29-Aug-24, 08:47

The people who know trump
Are speaking out anout him

More than 200 staffers for four previous Republican presidential nominees have endorsed Democrat Kamala Harris’ White House bid, cautioning that the notion of a second term for GOP nominee Donald Trump is “simply untenable” and “will hurt real, everyday people.”

In an open letter, first written about on Monday by USA Today, 238 people who worked for former President George H.W. Bush, former President George W. Bush, former Arizona Sen. John McCain and Utah Sen. Mitt Romney call on their fellow “moderate Republicans and conservative independents” to join them in backing Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, over Trump and his vice presidential pick, Sen. JD Vance of Ohio.

“Of course, we have plenty of honest, ideological disagreements with Vice President Harris and Gov. Walz,” the Republicans wrote, noting the significance of a handful of battleground states that proved crucial to Democrat Joe Biden’s slim margin of victory in 2020. “That’s to be expected. The alternative, however, is simply untenable.”

Signatories include Reed Galen, a George W. Bush and McCain campaign alum who co-founded the anti-Trump group The Lincoln Project, and Olivia Troye, a former George W. Bush staffer and homeland security adviser to Trump’s vice president, Mike Pence. The range of jobs represented runs the gamut from chief of staff to intern.

“Another four years of Donald Trump’s chaotic leadership,” the signatories warn, “this time focused on advancing the dangerous goals of Project 2025, will hurt real, everyday people and weaken our sacred institutions.” The letter goes on to warn that “broad, democratic movements will be irreparably jeopardized as Trump and his acolyte JD Vance kowtow to dictators like Vladimir Putin while turning their backs on our allies.”
zorroloco
03-Sep-24, 09:48

When former President Donald Trump held a campaign event at Arlington National Cemetery last week, 1st Lt. Jimmy McCain says he viewed it as a “violation.”

The youngest son of the late Sen. John McCain had already been moving away from the Republican Party — just weeks ago, he changed his voter registration to Democrat and plans to vote for Kamala Harris in November, he told CNN in an exclusive interview this week.
apatzer
03-Sep-24, 11:05

TDS
We now seem to have a national health emergency. TDS is spreading like wildfire. 🤣 LMAO. Well over 200 of his former staff and 40ish of his former Cabinet members refuse to endorse him. Despite the fact that he only hires the best people. It would seem that TDS is extremely contagious.
zorroloco
03-Sep-24, 12:21

Patz
It seems the surest way to catch it us to actually spend time with tRump. If listen to his words. Or examine his record.
zorroloco
19-Sep-24, 06:27

Worth listening to
Joe Walsh: ‘I Would Support Any Democrat’ Over Trump
Former tea party activist and Republican U.S. Rep. Joe Walsh announced Friday he was ending his long-shot primary challenge to President Donald Trump.

Declaring Trump unbeatable in a Republican Party that has become a “cult,” Walsh says he will now be doing everything he can to help a Democrat – any Democrat – defeat Trump in November.

Below, a Q&A with Walsh.

You’ve said any Democrat would be better than Trump in the White House – even a socialist. How did you come to this point?

Well look, when I got into it six months ago I got into because I think and I believe – and I still believe – that Donald Trump is unfit, period, to be president. I believe he is the single greatest threat our country has right now. I think he is everything our Founding Fathers feared. So I haven’t changed on that. When people asked me when I first got in that if I can’t win the nomination will I support a Democrat? And my answer early was always, “Well I’ll never vote for Donald Trump but I don’t know about a Democrat.” Over the course of the last four to five months it became clear to me that Trump is such a unique threat and the Republican Party is now his party and it is like a cult and it’s really, really important – it’s vital that he loses. And the only way he’s going to lose is to put a Democrat in the White House, so yeah, I would support any Democrat over him.

How would you analyze the rise of Trump? What made his presidency possible?

That’s pretty easy because the same people who voted for him voted for me. The same people that voted for him have listened to me on the radio over the last six years. Donald Trump is payback, period, from a lot of good people out there who have felt like and believe the political system – neither political party – was listening to them or cared about them. And along came a demagogue like Donald Trump who said, “I’m going to build a wall and Mexico is going to pay for it.” These people thought that they finally had someone who cared about them. And that’s why they’ve clung to him so tightly. He doesn’t believe a word he says, he’s just a demagogue, but they believe he’s the first one who’s really listened to them or cared about them.

Why do you think so many people are willing to believe what he says even though much of what he says is contradicted and fact-checked by the media every day and proven to be false?

I think two reasons, and man I ran head first into this. They don’t care that he lies every day. They don’t care that he cheats. They don’t care that he’s corrupt. They don’t care that he abuses the office. They don’t care that he solicits foreign interference in our elections. They don’t care about anything that he does because, again, two reasons: He’s punching what they believe are the bad guys. He’s punching CNN, he’s punching the Democrats and they have so much invested in him … Look, I love a lot of these people because they have been my audience for the last six years, but it really is like a cult and they see nothing wrong in their leader. He can do no wrong for them and to them.

Has Trump forever changed the Republican Party? Do you think the party will ever return to what it once was?

No I don’t. I think the Republican Party is breaking up. Look at this. So here’s Joe Walsh, tea party conservative who will do whatever he can do this year to help elect a Democrat president. You talk about an upside-down world. I think the Republican Party is breaking up. It’s Trump’s party. I’m a conservative, I have no hope in this party. I don’t belong in this party and I really do believe the split is permanent. I believe what the Senate Republicans did a week or two ago when they put Trump before country, I think you can’t walk that back. And here’s the other thing: Trump’s not going anywhere. Let’s hope he loses in November. I think he will lose in November. But he’s not going to go anywhere unless he’s in jail. He’s going to grab Sean Hannity. He’ll probably start his own TV network. He’ll have his followers. He’ll continue to try and make life hell for the Republican Party for a long, long time.

Was it a mistake for Democrats to impeach Trump even though they never were likely to secure the votes to remove him from office?

My answer is simple: they had no f***ing choice. They had no choice. The president of the United States forced a foreign government to help him cheat in the 2020 election. If you don’t impeach a president over that, then there’s nothing to impeach a president over, period.

You say you think the Republican Party has succumbed to what you have characterized as the cult of Trump. But in terms of Sen. Lindsey Graham, what do you think is going on there? We often hear that many Republicans are willing to criticize Trump behind the scenes but they just won’t do it publicly. Why do you think someone like Graham is willing to go back on many things he apparently believed in the past to support Trump?

Remember one thing on the cult, it’s not just the Republican voters. The cult extends to conservative media. Fox News and the conservative media world would never have me on the last six months. Why? Because they wanted to protect their leader. Republican Party bosses in 10 states cancelled primaries and caucuses. Why? To protect their leader. So the cult extends way beyond the voters. Now, to my former colleagues in the House and the Senate, it really comes down to two different kinds of people and I have spoken to a lot of them privately and I can tell you that most Republicans in Congress privately agree with most of what I say about Trump publicly. They are afraid to say it publicly because they don’t want to lose his voters. They’re not afraid of Trump, they are afraid of losing Trump’s voters. So they are just going to keep their mouths shut until November and after November and many of them hope Trump will lose. Some of my former colleagues have told me: “Joe, I know Trump’s a bad guy but he’s my coach and we have to beat the other team – the Democrats – because they are the enemy.” But then you get people like Lindsey Graham and other Republicans who have literally just sold their souls, period. Lindsey Graham has just sold his soul to Donald Trump for whatever reason.

How would you assess the field of Democratic presidential candidates? Who do you think has the best shot against Trump?

I generally believe that any of them could beat Trump because the resistance to Trump is strong. But I will tell you this, I heard from hundreds and hundreds of Republicans when I was in Iowa the last month who all told me: “Joe, I love you, I love what you are doing but I’m going to caucus with the Democrats because I want to impact who the Democrats pick.” And they caucused for … they mentioned Klobuchar and Biden. I heard that overwhelmingly. I think Amy Klobuchar would kick Trump’s ass. I think if Amy Klobuchar or Joe Biden were the nominee, a lot of Republicans would vote for them. That’s one way to beat Trump. The other way to beat Trump is to pick a Bernie or an Elizabeth Warren – it’s less certain – but pick a Bernie, and you would have to really energize a lot of constituencies on the left who typically don’t vote. So I think any of them could beat him but I know that somebody like Klobuchar would absolutely kick Trump’s a**.

Why are you so confident that Klobuchar would be so good in a matchup against Trump?

Because all of the independents and a hell of a lot of moderate Republicans would voter for her. The crossover would be incredible. She’s from the Midwest. She’s tough. But mainly, she would get everybody in the middle. She’d pick off tons of Republicans. I heard it from Republicans in New Hampshire who told me the same thing: “Joe, I would ordinarily vote for you but I want to impact the Democrat race so I’m going to vote for Klobuchar.” And we heard Biden too. So you would get a lot of that and I think that would guarantee them a win.

You lost your radio show after you announced you were running against Trump. Was that the reason? Were you ever explicitly told it was because you chose to run against Trump?

I was told that. But full disclosure, in all likelihood I was going to lose my radio show anyway. I was under enormous pressure to be on Team Trump. Ever since he got elected my syndicator, the company I worked for, they pressured all of us to say nothing but good things about Donald Trump. I couldn’t do it so they closer we were getting to the election there was no doubt that they were going to want somebody on the radio who was on Team Trump. So I was going to lose my show regardless.

Why did you decide to drop out of the race? What prompted you to decide enough is enough?

Two things. Look, I’m no dummy. I knew this was going to be a difficult road and early on I sensed that Trump had a hold over the party but you don’t really know it until you see it. And that final month I spent in Iowa when I had Republicans boo me and yell at me because I said we need a president who doesn’t lie all the time – that kind of thing went on over and over and I just realized that it’s impossible – and I mean impossible – for any Republican to beat him in a primary. I’m devoting my life to make sure that he doesn’t get reelected. I can’t do that in the primary so I’ve got to find a better way to do that.

Do you see the rise of Trump as an outgrowth of the anti-establishment tea party movement that energized many on the right who thought the establishment wasn’t working for them? Would Trump’s rise have been possible without the tea party or has he simply co-opted their anger?

He’s co-opted their anger but I believe there were two strands to the tea party movement 10 years ago. There was the anti-debt strand of which I was a part. And then there was the angry populist strand. Once we went to Washington and it became clear that the Republicans were not going to cut spending or do anything about the debt then a lot of tea party people got angry and frustrated. And Donald Trump came along and he seized upon their populist anger. Anger about a wall, anger about people coming in, anything. So he co-opted the movement and moved it away from a movement on debt.

The other two points I want to make – and I’ve been very public about this – I helped lead to Trump because oftentimes when I was fighting the last 10 years I engaged in ugly politics. Some of that ugly politics led to Trump. The other thing that led to Trump was a Republican Party establishment that was clueless and out of touch with how angry their voters were. Jeb Bush and all the rest of them, they had no idea. So along came Trump – and Trump he’s a demagogue and he sensed their anger and he gave them voice. The party establishment never saw how angry their voters were.

What’s next for you?

The immediate future is I’m going to devote the next six to nine months to trying to, as best as I can, to get conservatives, Republicans, moderates and independents to agree with me that Donald Trump is a unique threat and we have to vote for any Democrat. Trump didn’t win by a lot, so if I can go in to a number of states and convince enough Republicans that Trump’s a bigger threat than any Democrat that could help swing an election. And that’s most certainly what I’m going to try to do these next six to nine months.

I have to work around the conservative media world because they won’t touch me. So I will go directly to voters around the country. And the other thing we have is we have a huge list of hundreds of thousands of voters who are in the middle and/or Republicans and conservatives. So we can directly communicate with hundreds and hundreds of thousands of voters over the next six to nine months to make the case even Bernie Sanders would be better than four more years of Trump.”
lord_shiva
20-Sep-24, 23:08

Lev Parnas
In the documentary, “From Russia with Lev,” Parnas lays out a fraction of Trump’s criminal mindset and activities leading up to his first impeachment. There is a whole bunch of information they were unable to include in the film. Anyway, Lev says Trump inspired him to cast his first ballot back in 2020, for Biden.
lord_shiva
20-Sep-24, 23:14

A Dozen Reagan Staffers
More than a dozen Reagan staffers endorse Kamala.

www.theguardian.com
lord_shiva
03-Oct-24, 18:31

Rebooted from NG
This time it was Thumper behaving as the weak little pussy who cannot stand reality.
zorroloco
03-Oct-24, 18:45

Shiva
Your mistake was telling them ugly truths about their paradigm
lord_shiva
03-Oct-24, 18:46

What Post
promoted the pussy to act? I have no clue. One of the following, apparently.

Murder?
Murder has declined over 10% from 2022 to 2023. That is a crime almost always reported, making it a solid indicator for overall violent crime rates.

www.fbi.gov

———
Trump Lies on Crime Statistics
Donald keeps insisting crime is up, both FBI statistics reveal it is down in most categories, murder dropped over 22%, a substantial decline.

Operation North Star resulted in the arrests of over 3000 fugitives.

www.justice.gov

This is certain to have another big impact on crime rates.

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DNC Policies
DNC policies are of enormous benefit to middle class Americans, workers, and wage earners. They also benefit oppressed minorities and women, from whom right wing zealots wish to strip essential liberties.

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The Purge
It sounds here like Donald wishes to rescind the constitutional article against cruel and unusual punishment, though to be fair it is nearly impossible to tell WHAT he is rambling incoherently about.

www.youtube.com
[Video was Trump explaining guards should wax medieval on prisoners, or something.]

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Frequent Lying?
<<It’s cheap shots like this, your frequent lying and your political fanaticism that make you so obnoxious.>>

I never falsely accused you of using pejoratives for a presidential candidate.
[Post was to Andrew who I thought falsely accused me of calling Trump names, but he was instead singling out Dmaestro for calling RFK “brain worm.” My apology apparently failed to post? Still, the constant false accusations of lying grew awfully thin.]

———
Look
<<Trump colluded with Russia to win in 2016? To use L_S’ favorite standard when accusations are brought against Democrats, “Why were no charges filed?” Didn’t Robert Mueller look into that? >>

No, Mueller did not investigate that.

<<Didn’t Democrats in Congress look into that? Why were no charges filed? (as L_S would say.)>>

I’m not sure why you keep blaming me for this. Plenty of charges have been filed against Trump and his associates. He has more felons than Reagan did. Or Nixon. Plus thirty four convictions, with more to follow. Donald is a convicted felon, twice impeached, and the absolute best candidate Republicans can field. Gosh.

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Why Should We?
<<It seems like you too can’t control your temper or your senses when it comes to Trump.>>

He is an evil dictator wannabe. Why should we not point this out at every opportunity? The man is evil. He endorsed torture in 2016, mass deportations, and rescinding the bill of rights. He is thoroughly corrupt, and also an incompetent ignoramus. We have never had a president as idiotic or mentally challenged as this one. And Bush junior was no shining star.


lord_shiva
03-Oct-24, 18:51

Rulz
I respectfully never referred to the orange shit stain Groper by anything other than his first or last name. I did not attack any of the other members of the club. I’m mystified what rule pussy thought I violated. None were ever specified, aside from these.

lord_shiva
03-Oct-24, 18:54

Zorro 18:45
Yep.

Most of my posts came with supporting links.
lord_shiva
03-Oct-24, 18:59

Hating Truth
Weak little pussies do hate it when you constantly hammer truth home to them, or fact check obvious lies.

Parent: Did you poop your diaper?
Toddler: No
Parent [checks diaper]:
Toddler: The rules were you guys weren’t going to fact check.
zorroloco
03-Oct-24, 19:21

Shiva
Surely you didn’t expect anything different?
lord_shiva
03-Oct-24, 19:23

Shiva 18:46
One of these posts triggered the weak minded pussy on NG. Instead of offering an informed rebuttal he responded the way Groper would, by silencing any intelligent, informed opinion.
bobspringett
03-Oct-24, 19:26

Democrat supporters have it easy this time around.

But life-long Republicans have to ask themselves some serious questions. Did they mean what the said when they:-

1. Demanded moral integrity from their politicians,
2. Demanded fiscal responsibility in government budgets,
3. Upheld Honesty as vital in public life,
4. Demanded the Rule of Law,
5. Stood by Democracies against dictatorship,
6. Held Constitutional norms as sacred,
7. Opposed corruption, cronyism and nepotism,

to list just a few features that the Republican Party took as non-negotiable only twenty years ago. Because Trump qualifies on NONE of the above.

When will they realise that there is a cuckoo in their nest, who has kicked out all their own chicks? How long will they go on feeding this usurper?

To be brutally blunt, genuine conservatives have left their house unlocked when they went on holidays. Getting the squatters out is going to take time and effort. Or perhaps they might need to build another house from scratch, and cut off the water and power supply to the old house.

If only John McCain were still here to lead them! Perhaps Liz Cheney might take up the torch.
zorroloco
03-Oct-24, 19:35

CNN

Former House GOP conference chair Liz Cheney and former Trump White House aides Alyssa Farah Griffin, Cassidy Hutchinson and Sarah Matthews will make the case against the reelection of former President Donald Trump in a fireside chat in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, next week, CNN has exclusively learned.

The event will follow Cheney’s expected Thursday appearance with Vice President Kamala Harris in Wisconsin, another critical swing state.
bobspringett
03-Oct-24, 19:49

Thanks for that, Zorro.

Agree with Cheney's politics or not, you have to respect her sense of duty. Which means, of course, that MAGA will show her no respect at all.
lord_shiva
03-Oct-24, 19:52

Liz Cheney
She absolutely has taken up the torch, actively campaigning for Kamala.
lord_shiva
03-Oct-24, 19:53

111 GOP Officials
now endorse Kamala. Many more than that refuse to endorse Groper.
lord_shiva
03-Oct-24, 22:28

Jon Stewart in Republican Canel Culture
www.youtube.com
lord_shiva
20-Oct-24, 14:57

Coacachella Cloaca
Groper held a rally in California, which has lots of Republicans, even though no way in hell the state goes red for him. He wanted a big crowd, and boasted a rally of a hundred thousand at a private ranch licensed for fifteen thousand. To ensure no one left early he required charter buses ferry attendees to the event from parking areas five miles further out.

In a dispute over payments the charter bus drivers refused to pick up attendees, some of whom ended up hospitalized for hypothermia. Imagine old MAGA enthusiasts forced to walk five miles back to their cars in the dark.

The event was more or less a metaphor for another Groper presidency. Leave regular folks high and dry, after pointlessly whining about how unfair everyone is to him.

At least at that rally he did not diverge into marveling at the length and girth of Arnold’s penis for an interminable ten minutes, promising to cut it short so as not to offend the “sophisticated ladies” present.



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