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lord_shiva
14-Nov-16, 16:30

White Nationalists Love Steve Bannon
"The biggest problem [Bannon] had with Archer is the number of Jews that attend... I told him that there are children who are Jewish at (a competing school), and he asked me what the percentage was. I told him that I didn't know because it wasn't an issue for me as I am not raising the girls to be either anti-Semitic or prejudiced against anyone."

Sworn testimony of Bannon's ex wife in 2007.

"Your birth control injection will add on pounds that will prevent the injection you really want — of man meat." While this quote isn't Bannon himself, nor is it racist--merely sexist--Bannon published this article and praised its author.

"Look, are there some people that are white nationalists that are attracted to some of the philosophies of the alt-right? Maybe. Are there some people that are anti-Semitic that are attracted? Maybe. Right? Maybe some people are attracted to the alt-right that are homophobes, right?"

I personally couldn't find anything objectionable in that were it not for the fact right wing policies disproportionately attract these objectionable elements. If it were 50/50 or 60/40 or even 70/30 it could be overlooked, but it is an overwhelming 98/2. That's higher than the percentage of climate scientists convinced of anthropogenic global warming.

What is it about right wing politics these deplorables find so attractive and appealing? Hm, so hard to guess. Must simply be coincidence?
softaire
14-Nov-16, 16:36

Well, in an attempt to continue and make decent conversation, I'll suggest that as Trump gets things moving again, we will see economic growth, increased wages, jobs growth and improved attitudes about him by the young.

The stock market has already headed up. Wall street is enthusiastic.

As tax rates come down and business volume improves, the deficit will be reduced due to the expanded sales and income tax revenues because of more jobs, higher incomes, and more sales.

DM... you weren't correct about anything (especially demographics) over this last year. You read the public incorrectly, right up to election night. Your intuition of the politics was wrong... why do you think I should believe anything you say now?

LS... Your snarky comments just sound like sour grapes now.


saintinsanity
14-Nov-16, 16:39

Show me one piece of evidence that the Russians influenced the elections
anomalocaris
14-Nov-16, 16:40

How do you make decent conversation? I have attempted and it just doesnt work.
saintinsanity
14-Nov-16, 16:44

These clubs are not representative. Mainly college-educated white males and Russians play chess.
anomalocaris
14-Nov-16, 17:14

8 years of a black president and as soon as hes gone we are racist as hell as a nation again.
saintinsanity
14-Nov-16, 17:17

Novak Chomsky just came out strong trump was a reaction to racism and fear.

I didn't relate at all.

He said we don't want colored people taking over the country, which is inevitable.

I say i don't want money taking over the country, which might also be inevitable.
saintinsanity
14-Nov-16, 17:21

Stupid phone

youtu.be

Here is the interview. That's not at all why i wanted trump instead of Hillary.

I don't care if white people aren't in charge. I don't want incredibly rich people in charge.

Trump is rich though, Might be screwed either way.

Should have been Bernie.

lord_shiva
14-Nov-16, 17:23

Evidence of Russian Subversion
"Show me one piece of evidence that the Russians influenced the elections."

New York Times:
www.nytimes.com

CNN:
www.cnn.com

Not just feeding Wikileaks, mind you, but modifying the Wikileak feed for Trump's benefit. Of course, they had plenty of help through their Breitbart affiliate, aka sleeper cell.

CNN citing ex CIA chief:
www.cnn.com

Here's the conservative Washington Post:
www.washingtonpost.com

“[t]he U.S. intelligence community is confident that the Russian government directed the recent compromises of e-mails from U.S. persons and institutions, including from U.S. political organizations.”

"The metadata (data about who edited a document, and when, among other things) of a Guccifer 2.0.-linked Microsoft Word document indicates that it was edited by someone using Cyrillic script and identifying himself as “Felix Dzerzhinsky,” while metadata on a Guccifer 2.0 PDF has error messages suggesting that it was converted on a computer using the Russian language."

Of course, Pawntificator, as a possible Russian agent himself, would seek more specific evidence than simply statements by US intelligence agencies as these would be of enormous benefit for hackers seeking to more elaborately conceal traces and evidence of their activities. Sort of like when Hamas was bombing Israel, Pawntificator might suggest he didn't believe it unless the exact coordinates of bomb sites were released, the better to help Hamas improve their targeting capabilities.
lord_shiva
14-Nov-16, 17:24

Money Money
"I say i don't want money taking over the country, which might also be inevitable."

Genius. So you endorsed the billionaire over the woman born into middle class America.

Very wise!
saintinsanity
14-Nov-16, 17:25

So, like the bible, then.
saintinsanity
14-Nov-16, 17:26

I wish you could see the Clinton cash.

I also wish i had some form of mild retardation that made me always feel happy and correct.
anomalocaris
14-Nov-16, 17:27

Yea, middle class America so identifies with her.  
saintinsanity
14-Nov-16, 17:30

So do you have any evidence or not?

You just feel like the Clintons are guilty? Get with the times man. We need evidence. And not from any source we could question.
saintinsanity
14-Nov-16, 17:49

Nothing? I'm not at all surprised.
anomalocaris
14-Nov-16, 17:50

Thank you Russia for exposing the truth.
saintinsanity
14-Nov-16, 18:05

Oh yeah, like trump called for the Russians to hack the emails
saintinsanity
14-Nov-16, 18:06

Treasonous traitor!
lord_shiva
14-Nov-16, 18:13

B-)
"Like Trump called for the Russians to hack the emails."

Love that line.

Well, we got ourselves a president who is Putin's puppet. Could be worse.

But not by much.

North Korea will be looking pretty good to many of the slack jawed Groper voters by the end of 2020. If it takes him that long.
saintinsanity
14-Nov-16, 18:24

I predict that you are going to be so incredibly wrong that in the future you refuse to recognise that this exchange ever happened.
zorroloco
14-Nov-16, 18:24

Softy
Trump will heal our nation?

By naming an anti-Semite White Nationalist as his chief strategist. Even if all these perceptions of Bannon are wrong, just the perception of him is enough reason not to hire him at this point.... if he actually cared about healing.

But clearly he doesn't. And Bannon is a bigot. And Trump agrees with him.
saintinsanity
14-Nov-16, 18:27

Nobody knows who Bannon is.
anomalocaris
14-Nov-16, 18:34

Hey liberals, lets play the race card, I mean is there any other reason things happen other than race and hatred in your eyes?

If that doesnt work, double down on it.
dmaestro
14-Nov-16, 18:41

What does that race card have to do with the selection of Bannon? If he's a bigot he's a bigot. His race is irrelevant.
saintinsanity
14-Nov-16, 18:43

Is he a bigot?
dmaestro
14-Nov-16, 18:45

I think it is evident Trump can't heal the nation by now. Even if he wanted to.
americanhorse
14-Nov-16, 18:56

Animal Farmers
White racists are becoming emboldened. They will be in every corner of our society. They have left the barn. They are here.

>>>>Not all blacks are on welfare, some are in prison.<<<<

Another thing:

Marines are going Russian - the crap has hit the fan. buckle up folks. Napoleon, Squealer, and Snowball are in charge. And the chickens are gathering.
anomalocaris
14-Nov-16, 19:12

Some blacks sell drugs so they do work.
anomalocaris
14-Nov-16, 19:13

You guys are like puppets! Its too easy.
anomalocaris
14-Nov-16, 19:14

OMG, just realized. Did not check my sentence structure!
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